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Or you're simply an idiot. That seems more likely now that I think about it. ("Hey! Surf bum voted for O'neil and I'm suspicious of her. So let's remove her from the runoff AND vote for the same person as her." - Boner). Could a mafia possibly be that stupid on the record?
I'm not even sure how I feel about O'neil being mafia. But Boner's voting compared to what he's saying is like *mind explosion* irrational. Just completely throwing me for a loop.
Jimmy, if I left my vote on O'Neil,there is a very fucking small chance she gets voted out when she has a swing vote. Plain and simple. Explain in what way I am wrong here. What about this makes no sense
You can't possibly know this unless you're mafia.
hoe the fuck do you figure? Explain! Show your work!
Real nice jimmy, call me an idiot for seeing past one step in the process. I really enjoy how you continually over simplify my move here, never once touching on what I've said again and again, over and over. If I left my vote on o'neil, and nobody voted with her on LD, she keeps her vote free to place on someone else in a runoff. That betters her odds at survival. So, by putting my vote beside hrs,, it takes this away. Pretty simple jimmy. When I switched my vote to LD, there was more than enough time for me to make a case for one of those single votes to be placed on o'neil as the 4th person in the runoff, JUST LIKE YOU AND ELLA SAID. If you don't get that? Then who's the idiot?
And jimmy, let's keep the name calling out of this ok? We are adults right? Would you use this language in court?
Yes, please. That goes for everyone. I know emotions can run high in Mafia, but let's keep the name calling out of this. It ruins it for everyone when things get personal here.
Vote tally:
LD - 2 Pfunk - 2 Hakuna - 2 O'Neil - 1 Ella - 1 Mike D - 1
Boner >>> Pfunk >>> O'Neil >>> LD Hakunah >>> O'Neil >>> Mike D >>> O'Neil Tejas >>> Boner >>> Null >>> Pfunk LD >>> Hakunah Pfunk >>> Ella Mike D >>> Pfunk Jimmy >>> Hakuna >>> Boner >>> Hakuna Ella >>> Boner >>> Mike D O'Neil >>> LD
I am going to head to bed within the hour - since discussion still seems active, I'll extend the deadline 'til ~8pm EST.
Or you're simply an idiot. That seems more likely now that I think about it. ("Hey! Surf bum voted for O'neil and I'm suspicious of her. So let's remove her from the runoff AND vote for the same person as her." - Boner). Could a mafia possibly be that stupid on the record?
Jimmy >> Hakuna
And what about my reasons for voting for LD. You keep twisting this like I am not connecting o'neil and LD at all, and that it's all about o'neil. It's not. There are 3 mafia out there jlimbo, and I'm allowed to be suspicious of more than one person. I'm also allowed to make a theory about how more than one player are tied together. I've done this. And the more you try to make me look stupid , with your overly simplifying, selective posts, the more I want to put you up there with them. Why wouldn't mafia go to bat to try and discredit someone who's got 1 or more of their teammates pegged..
I've said my peace. We've been given 10 extra hours to discuss, people have been logged in, but nobody has anything to say. If you're worried about jimmy calling you an idiot for your opinion and theories, don't worry, the insults only start flying once he has lost all ground to stand on.
I've said my peace. We've been given 10 extra hours to discuss, people have been logged in, but nobody has anything to say. If you're worried about jimmy calling you an idiot for your opinion and theories, don't worry, the insults only start flying once he has lost all ground to stand on.
Does anyone have anything to say about anything?
I'm with you. I've said my peace. I don't think we are close to the right path nor have done much constructive. I want to switch my vote but dint even think its worth it at this point and would much rather just get this day over with.
If jimmy had a vote or I wasn't firm on mine, I would change it after whats been going on. I can see boners playing strategy with him voting for LD, but what I don't understand is jimmy. I think boner used the term 'over simplify' and I agree. Either Jimmy is a townie and trying to make boner see where is logic is flawed (which I personally don't think it is) or jimmy has alternative motives. My dream runoff this round would be: Pfunk, LD, and jimmy. However, I'm one of the votes on pfunk and jimmy has no votes, so I don't see that happening.
You're just too young to grasp how stylin' I really was. All the boys wanted to do me when I was 5. Actually the girls did too. My haircut was confusing.
I've said my peace. We've been given 10 extra hours to discuss, people have been logged in, but nobody has anything to say. If you're worried about jimmy calling you an idiot for your opinion and theories, don't worry, the insults only start flying once he has lost all ground to stand on.
Does anyone have anything to say about anything?
I'm with you. I've said my peace. I don't think we are close to the right path nor have done much constructive. I want to switch my vote but dint even think its worth it at this point and would much rather just get this day over with.
. Because of the roonecrar thing, this is the first round we can really work it to get something to run with. If we just mail it in, we may only have one more chance to get it wrong.
You're just too young to grasp how stylin' I really was. All the boys wanted to do me when I was 5. Actually the girls did too. My haircut was confusing.
Not just them, Mike D needs to get a little involved here. I know mikes style is pretty reserved and all, but right now, he's logged in since the round got extended. Before that, he'd been offline for a day or so, so for all he knew, we were into a runoff by now.kinda seems like he's just coasting. There's enough discussion in this round to form some sort of opinion Let's have your thoughts mike, inquiring minds want to know!
I was honestly thinking by now I would have been placed in the runoff. I Really don't share the train of thought on o'Neil and LD being mafia together right now, and don't think it would serve a purpose to have them both in the runoff together. As far as connections went, I was drawn to Tejas and pfunk. Tejas placing a vote on Boner, then withdrawing and pfunk mentioning that is where his vote would have been going, and Tejas coming back and putting his vote on pfunk since that was his top suspicion. It all kinda looked like a target and distance tactic. Then again, I'm drugged up so it's easy for me to make crazy ass leaps like that in my head at the moment.
Still trying to digest the past few pages, but as I caught up I am growing a tad suspicious of Jimmy. I really don't know if he isn't understanding what Boner was saying, if he was trying to see if he had more support to get Boner in the runoff, or what is really going on. Jimmy - to me it looks like you are making a stretch to disagree with Boner throughout the last page.
I still feel we need at least one of Oniel, Pfunk and myself due to the whack. Seeing Oniel's name come up much more than Pfunk is leading me to believe that she is more likely mafia between the two. If the mafia are fine with folks in the runoff, they are going to leave it alone, and Pfunk seems to be headed to the runoff without much disagreement. I am not sure how I feel with what Boner is doing by not voting for her with the suspicions he has. I am going to go switch my vote to her. I wouldn't mind seeing both Oniel and Jimmy in the runoff, I really don't know who else I would want in there if I had a choice.
I was honestly thinking by now I would have been placed in the runoff. I Really don't share the train of thought on o'Neil and LD being mafia together right now, and don't think it would serve a purpose to have them both in the runoff together. As far as connections went, I was drawn to Tejas and pfunk. Tejas placing a vote on Boner, then withdrawing and pfunk mentioning that is where his vote would have been going, and Tejas coming back and putting his vote on pfunk since that was his top suspicion. It all kinda looked like a target and distance tactic. Then again, I'm drugged up so it's easy for me to make crazy ass leaps like that in my head at the moment.
Who brought up LD and o'neil as mafia together? Not trying to put you on the spot, I just don't recall seeing that anyway. And just with me really being the only one really on o'neil at this point I'm hoping it wasn't me implying it somehow.
Im approaching LD the sameway I approach him every game, the longer he lives the more suspicious I am, and really not on much else, if he is a townie he is a very good whack candidate, it's still early and I don't see the need to really visit him at this point.
Not just to Boner, everyone else too - I know there are a few different playing styles, but if you are a townie I would encourage you to vote for who you are more suspicious of. When you are a townie it can be nice to have your vote freed up in a runoff to vote for someone you are more suspicious of, but if/when you are killed off your voting record speaks louder than the rest of the words in your posts. Yes we need runoffs for some sort of voting records to look back on, but those who try to vote for someone just to keep things even can hurt us in the long run . . . that's at least my .02 about that.
I was honestly thinking by now I would have been placed in the runoff. I Really don't share the train of thought on o'Neil and LD being mafia together right now, and don't think it would serve a purpose to have them both in the runoff together. As far as connections went, I was drawn to Tejas and pfunk. Tejas placing a vote on Boner, then withdrawing and pfunk mentioning that is where his vote would have been going, and Tejas coming back and putting his vote on pfunk since that was his top suspicion. It all kinda looked like a target and distance tactic. Then again, I'm drugged up so it's easy for me to make crazy ass leaps like that in my head at the moment.
Who brought up LD and o'neil as mafia together?
. That was me. Look back on the last page where I was arguing with jimmy. you'll find it.
Still trying to digest the past few pages, but as I caught up I am growing a tad suspicious of Jimmy. I really don't know if he isn't understanding what Boner was saying, if he was trying to see if he had more support to get Boner in the runoff, or what is really going on. Jimmy - to me it looks like you are making a stretch to disagree with Boner throughout the last page.
I still feel we need at least one of Oniel, Pfunk and myself due to the whack. Seeing Oniel's name come up much more than Pfunk is leading me to believe that she is more likely mafia between the two. If the mafia are fine with folks in the runoff, they are going to leave it alone, and Pfunk seems to be headed to the runoff without much disagreement. I am not sure how I feel with what Boner is doing by not voting for her with the suspicions he has. I am going to go switch my vote to her. I wouldn't mind seeing both Oniel and Jimmy in the runoff, I really don't know who else I would want in there if I had a choice.
Mike D >> O'niel
I see your reasoning about changing your vote to O'neil from pfunk, but the vast majority of her name being brought up is caught up with the Jimmy/Boner argument. The whole initial reasoning she was looked at was because she was vp's with surfbum, and even he had more reservations about pfunk than her. I really don't think we should discount what surfbum had to say and allow pfunk to get a pass just because o'neil has been brought up more.
Still trying to digest the past few pages, but as I caught up I am growing a tad suspicious of Jimmy. I really don't know if he isn't understanding what Boner was saying, if he was trying to see if he had more support to get Boner in the runoff, or what is really going on. Jimmy - to me it looks like you are making a stretch to disagree with Boner throughout the last page.
I still feel we need at least one of Oniel, Pfunk and myself due to the whack. Seeing Oniel's name come up much more than Pfunk is leading me to believe that she is more likely mafia between the two. If the mafia are fine with folks in the runoff, they are going to leave it alone, and Pfunk seems to be headed to the runoff without much disagreement. I am not sure how I feel with what Boner is doing by not voting for her with the suspicions he has. I am going to go switch my vote to her. I wouldn't mind seeing both Oniel and Jimmy in the runoff, I really don't know who else I would want in there if I had a choice.
Mike D >> O'niel
I see your reasoning about changing your vote to O'neil from pfunk, but the vast majority of her name being brought up is caught up with the Jimmy/Boner argument. The whole initial reasoning she was looked at was because she was vp's with surfbum, and even he had more reservations about pfunk than her. I really don't think we should discount what surfbum had to say and allow pfunk to get a pass just because o'neil has been brought up more.
Ella >> pfunk
. Just so the other side of this is out there. Let's say surf was inspector, and o'neil was his was to leave some bread crumbs, he's not gonna push on the o'neil thing. He doesn't want to draw the attention and keep it casual.
. Just so the other side of this is out there. Let's say surf was inspector, and o'neil was his was to leave some bread crumbs, he's not gonna push on the o'neil thing. He doesn't want to draw the attention and keep it casual.
That said, it could be either or.
I see what you are saying. With them both in there we have both these possibilities covered.
. Just so the other side of this is out there. Let's say surf was inspector, and o'neil was his was to leave some bread crumbs, he's not gonna push on the o'neil thing. He doesn't want to draw the attention and keep it casual.
That said, it could be either or.
I see what you are saying. With them both in there we have both these possibilities covered.
and I wasn't trying to sway you. Just offering up my thoughts.
I see your reasoning about changing your vote to O'neil from pfunk, but the vast majority of her name being brought up is caught up with the Jimmy/Boner argument. The whole initial reasoning she was looked at was because she was vp's with surfbum, and even he had more reservations about pfunk than her. I really don't think we should discount what surfbum had to say and allow pfunk to get a pass just because o'neil has been brought up more.
Ella >> pfunk
. Just so the other side of this is out there. Let's say surf was inspector, and o'neil was his was to leave some bread crumbs, he's not gonna push on the o'neil thing. He doesn't want to draw the attention and keep it casual.
That said, it could be either or.
The role of inspector is hard. Normally I would say one wouldn't casually drop their given name. But with the circumstances, Surfbum hasn't played in a long long time. I don't know his history playing or if he has been inspector or even mafia. I think casually dropping a voting partner hint as a given name could very well be inexpirianced inspector move. It's one of those things, if it had been someone like LD or Mike whacked, I wouldn't have looked twice at their initial vote, but where it was surfbum I think it's worth looking at. IMO, there were better options for a swerve whack. Which totally leads me to beleive mafia assumed surfbum was inspector. If surf was inspector and he has pfunks name, there really wasn't much reason to bring him up. He brought him up after the roo kill and really hadn't done much to draw attention and assume he was going to be the whack. So theoretically there was really not much reason to bring up pfunk and draw attention and potential to be whacked.
I can't say I'm surprised to be in the runoff, since I am easy to connect to the whack. And I'm certainly not going to change my vote, because a runoff seems important for the town in this round. I'm still the most suspicious of Ella, Hakuna and LD, so if two of them are in it with me then I can live with that. I'm not really sold on oneil but should surfbum have been the inspector then she makes a fine choice to be in it with us. I'll be curious to see if we get a second runoff.
Reading back over things, I understand what Boner was saying about the swing vote. In the case of this runoff, I would be the only one with said swing vote if nobody moves to Ella. I still think a runoff is a good idea, I just know I'll wind up looking suspicious having the one swing vote in a runoff I'm also a part of. In an effort to be as transparent as possible, I'd say I'm definitely gonna throw it at either Hakuna or LD, though I'm going to have to reread and decide which one I feel more strongly about. For the record, this seems like a lose-lose situation for me.
Reading back over things, I understand what Boner was saying about the swing vote. In the case of this runoff, I would be the only one with said swing vote if nobody moves to Ella. I still think a runoff is a good idea, I just know I'll wind up looking suspicious having the one swing vote in a runoff I'm also a part of. In an effort to be as transparent as possible, I'd say I'm definitely gonna throw it at either Hakuna or LD, though I'm going to have to reread and decide which one I feel more strongly about. For the record, this seems like a lose-lose situation for me.
You do realize that it will most definetly go to a 2nd runoff and you by no means have the "deciding" vote right?
I just wish everyone would stop worrying about votes and actually attempt to figure shit out rather than just be concerned about who's voting for who and worrying about staying alive.
I don't have much to add that I haven't already said, but don't agree that I'm more likely to be mafia just because I've been mentioned more often. also, I don't care how long it's been since surfbum played I don't think any inspector would ever vote for their given name on day one, even casually as VPs because why draw the attention and risk a whack? it's all about playing the odds but day one I think you keep your head down and try to at least make it to one guess.
but if you guys are convinced I'm mafia and putting me in the runoff makes you happy then ok. I'm tired of defending myself against baseless suspicion and I think it's like the roonectar thing on day one- a good chance for mafia to lay low when a lot of the attention seems to be focused in one direction.
I don't have much to add that I haven't already said, but don't agree that I'm more likely to be mafia just because I've been mentioned more often. also, I don't care how long it's been since surfbum played I don't think any inspector would ever vote for their given name on day one, even casually as VPs because why draw the attention and risk a whack? it's all about playing the odds but day one I think you keep your head down and try to at least make it to one guess.
but if you guys are convinced I'm mafia and putting me in the runoff makes you happy then ok. I'm tired of defending myself against baseless suspicion and I think it's like the roonectar thing on day one- a good chance for mafia to lay low when a lot of the attention seems to be focused in one direction.
