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Ya I see what you are saying bacon. I also think the deeper we get into this, the people involved in the runoff will start switching for preservation and it's really going to convolute things.
Hakuna >> jfg
Basically right now 2 of cariniss votes are from the other people runoff and that isn't sitting well with me, not a ton but enough to tip the scale.
Hakuna, can you further explain why two of carini's votes coming from people in the other runoff makes you want to vote for jfg?
Bear with me, I'm trying to get this out but it's not coming out as good as it sounds in my head.
Basically if either jfg or surf are mafia, it's the easiest kill for them.
There are two easy votes on carini without little needed reasoning, both of them can vote carini and easily say there is more suspicion than the other option. Then really all it takes is one or two other people to get on board and carini is gone and they are safe. If one is mafia, it makes sense to essentially stack than vote for the 3rd person.
To me there is either just something to it or nothing to it. If there is something to it, I think there's a good chance surf and/or jtg are mafia. Or if it really is just a coincidence and there's nothing to it, they are probably all townies, at which point JTG is the one least useful to the town and the one I'm fine with seeing go.
Apologies if that doesn't make much sense, with 3 people I'm finding it kinda hard to present hypothetical scenarios.
Does anyone else think Surfbum made a stupid unnecessary move and now he is trying to back track to make it look less suspicious?
I've clearly stated twice now and will reiterate: I'm trying to get in a runoff with Jfg. Which requires some movement. And I've said multiple times that if the votes don't move I reserve the right to put it back so we don't have a stack.
You're trying super hard to either get me out or protect Jfg or both. I'm telling you the part about me is wrong. I don't know why you'd protect Jfg though he has been suspect as fuck and so have you
Does anyone else think Surfbum made a stupid unnecessary move and now he is trying to back track to make it look less suspicious?
I've clearly stated twice now and will reiterate: I'm trying to get in a runoff with Jfg. Which requires some movement. And I've said multiple times that if the votes don't move I reserve the right to put it back so we don't have a stack.
You're trying super hard to either get me out or protect Jfg or both. I'm telling you the part about me is wrong. I don't know why you'd protect Jfg though he has been suspect as fuck and so have you
So what good would you voting for yourself be to get a run-off when the obvious result would be you changing the vote back to JFG when the run-off started?
Does anyone else think Surfbum made a stupid unnecessary move and now he is trying to back track to make it look less suspicious?
I've clearly stated twice now and will reiterate: I'm trying to get in a runoff with Jfg. Which requires some movement. And I've said multiple times that if the votes don't move I reserve the right to put it back so we don't have a stack.
You're trying super hard to either get me out or protect Jfg or both. I'm telling you the part about me is wrong. I don't know why you'd protect Jfg though he has been suspect as fuck and so have you
Why do you want to be in a runoff? Townie or not, I don't see why you would want to put yourself on the chopping block when you're okay with voting jfg out, unless you're trying to show us how overwhelmingly helpful to the town you are by encouraging more speculation/votes, in which case I think you're laying it on incredibly thick.
I've clearly stated twice now and will reiterate: I'm trying to get in a runoff with Jfg. Which requires some movement. And I've said multiple times that if the votes don't move I reserve the right to put it back so we don't have a stack.
You're trying super hard to either get me out or protect Jfg or both. I'm telling you the part about me is wrong. I don't know why you'd protect Jfg though he has been suspect as fuck and so have you
So what good would you voting for yourself be to get a run-off when the obvious result would be you changing the vote back to JFG when the run-off started?
back meaning back to carini....
youre really misrepping my posts and trying hard...
I've clearly stated twice now and will reiterate: I'm trying to get in a runoff with Jfg. Which requires some movement. And I've said multiple times that if the votes don't move I reserve the right to put it back so we don't have a stack.
You're trying super hard to either get me out or protect Jfg or both. I'm telling you the part about me is wrong. I don't know why you'd protect Jfg though he has been suspect as fuck and so have you
Why do you want to be in a runoff? Townie or not, I don't see why you would want to put yourself on the chopping block when you're okay with voting jfg out, unless you're trying to show us how overwhelmingly helpful to the town you are by encouraging more speculation/votes, in which case I think you're laying it on incredibly thick.
All rounds show vote movement and show patterns for the town to see what happens.
Im already on the chopping block
I feel like I have the best chance against Jfg, who I happen to think is mafia.
Im not TRYING to get killed off, but if I do it will show a pattern. What the town does with that hopefully is the right thing.
But of course, Id rather not get killed off seeing as I know Im a townie.
So what good would you voting for yourself be to get a run-off when the obvious result would be you changing the vote back to JFG when the run-off started?
back meaning back to carini....
youre really misrepping my posts and trying hard...
so weird.
Um who are you voting for right now? JFG.
Who did you say you wanted in a run-off? Yourself and JFG.
You said you would vote for your self to get that runoff between yourself and JFG.
If there were a run-off between yourself and JFG I'm guessing you would change your vote back to JFG.
You obviously couldn't change it to Carini if there was a run-off between JFG and you.
If there is anything incorrect here please let me know.
youre really misrepping my posts and trying hard...
so weird.
Um who are you voting for right now? JFG.
Who did you say you wanted in a run-off? Yourself and JFG.
You said you would vote for your self to get that runoff between yourself and JFG.
If there were a run-off between yourself and JFG I'm guessing you would change your vote back to JFG.
You obviously couldn't change it to Carini if there was a run-off between JFG and you.
If there is anything incorrect here please let me know.
All true statements, but in different posts trying to shed light on separate scenarios. Actually re: voting for myself, I asked if it were allowed. I didn't really think through the second part about me moving to jfg in the runoff and how that would make that round of voting strange and less than productive.
My preferences 1) runoff with me or carini and jfg 2) jfg voted off (my feeling is that he is most likely to be mafia between him and carini) 3) the rest of the options just don't seem right to me.
jfg has gone silent, now that there is some heat on me. nicely played. I won't come right out and accuse you of being mafia jfg, but Id say youre quite likely to be.
jfg - bacon - ???? is my guess at this point. Hard to figure the 3rd one out.
youre really misrepping my posts and trying hard...
so weird.
Um who are you voting for right now? JFG.
Who did you say you wanted in a run-off? Yourself and JFG.
You said you would vote for your self to get that runoff between yourself and JFG.
If there were a run-off between yourself and JFG I'm guessing you would change your vote back to JFG.
You obviously couldn't change it to Carini if there was a run-off between JFG and you.
If there is anything incorrect here please let me know.
Surf has not voted for himself, so where you meant "from surf back to jfg", he most likely thought you meant "from jfg back to carini". Ya'll are miscommunicating.
Who did you say you wanted in a run-off? Yourself and JFG.
You said you would vote for your self to get that runoff between yourself and JFG.
If there were a run-off between yourself and JFG I'm guessing you would change your vote back to JFG.
You obviously couldn't change it to Carini if there was a run-off between JFG and you.
If there is anything incorrect here please let me know.
All true statements, but in different posts trying to shed light on separate scenarios. Actually re: voting for myself, I asked if it were allowed. I didn't really think through the second part about me moving to jfg in the runoff and how that would make that round of voting strange and less than productive.
My preferences 1) runoff with me or carini and jfg 2) jfg voted off (my feeling is that he is most likely to be mafia between him and carini) 3) the rest of the options just don't seem right to me.
jfg has gone silent, now that there is some heat on me. nicely played. I won't come right out and accuse you of being mafia jfg, but Id say youre quite likely to be.
jfg - bacon - ???? is my guess at this point. Hard to figure the 3rd one out.
Whats the deadline for this round?
I'm guessing you aren't a very good chess player. Do yourself a favor and when ever you want a run-off take a look at the players who would be taking the deciding votes in that run-off. Also who they are currently voting for.
Who did you say you wanted in a run-off? Yourself and JFG.
You said you would vote for your self to get that runoff between yourself and JFG.
If there were a run-off between yourself and JFG I'm guessing you would change your vote back to JFG.
You obviously couldn't change it to Carini if there was a run-off between JFG and you.
If there is anything incorrect here please let me know.
All true statements, but in different posts trying to shed light on separate scenarios. Actually re: voting for myself, I asked if it were allowed. I didn't really think through the second part about me moving to jfg in the runoff and how that would make that round of voting strange and less than productive.
My preferences 1) runoff with me or carini and jfg 2) jfg voted off (my feeling is that he is most likely to be mafia between him and carini) 3) the rest of the options just don't seem right to me.
jfg has gone silent, now that there is some heat on me. nicely played. I won't come right out and accuse you of being mafia jfg, but Id say youre quite likely to be.
jfg - bacon - ???? is my guess at this point. Hard to figure the 3rd one out.
Whats the deadline for this round?
As to not posting for a while, occasionally - my bosses do like me to work a little. Plus, you were doing well enough on your own.
I don't mind if you call me mafia - I have done the same to you and your crew much earlier in the game. My death at y'alls clumsy hands will help to prove me right or wrong.
All true statements, but in different posts trying to shed light on separate scenarios. Actually re: voting for myself, I asked if it were allowed. I didn't really think through the second part about me moving to jfg in the runoff and how that would make that round of voting strange and less than productive.
My preferences 1) runoff with me or carini and jfg 2) jfg voted off (my feeling is that he is most likely to be mafia between him and carini) 3) the rest of the options just don't seem right to me.
jfg has gone silent, now that there is some heat on me. nicely played. I won't come right out and accuse you of being mafia jfg, but Id say youre quite likely to be.
jfg - bacon - ???? is my guess at this point. Hard to figure the 3rd one out.
Whats the deadline for this round?
As to not posting for a while, occasionally - my bosses do like me to work a little. Plus, you were doing well enough on your own.
I don't mind if you call me mafia - I have done the same to you and your crew much earlier in the game. My death at y'alls clumsy hands will help to prove me right or wrong.
Hakuna - Surfbum - Carini
Of course you wouldn't have bacon in your list, even after he was trying to give the town less information by going straight to a 2 person runoff.
Don't forget he is the one who started all this nonsense by wanting to "force surfbum's hand"
Im leaving my vote where it is. I changed my mind. You and bacon are mafia in my opinion. Neither of you have done anything but make that more apparent to me.
Who did you say you wanted in a run-off? Yourself and JFG.
You said you would vote for your self to get that runoff between yourself and JFG.
If there were a run-off between yourself and JFG I'm guessing you would change your vote back to JFG.
You obviously couldn't change it to Carini if there was a run-off between JFG and you.
If there is anything incorrect here please let me know.
Surf has not voted for himself, so where you meant "from surf back to jfg", he most likely thought you meant "from jfg back to carini". Ya'll are miscommunicating.
what good would you voting for yourself be to get a run-off when the obvious result would be you changing the vote back to JFG when the run-off started?
What a shitshow. I feel like no one is making any sense.
From what I can gather, Bacon thinks surfbum is mafia. I can't seem to find an articulable reason why. Bacon is being really sketchy right now with his pushing for surfbum. Either he's trying to back up JFG or he's got something against surfbum for another reason. Either way, something is definitely going on there and it smells super fishy to me.
JFG thinks Hakuna, Surf, and Carini are mafia. I really don't see what he's basing that off of. It's one thing to have your suspicions of some people, but to call out a group of 3 this early is pretty strong and makes you sound full of shit.
Hakuna, I literally cannot comprehend your posts. You're consistently contradicting yourself and word vomitting.
Carini and Mike D haven't really contributed much at all this round. At least Carini's vote for JFG I can sort of comprehend, but Mike D voting for surfbum at the start and keeping it there seems rather odd and like he's either got something against surfbum or he's just trying not to step on anyone's toes. Either way, it makes me uneasy.
Krissy and Jazmo right now seem like the most reasonable to me, and people that I've been agreeing with.
What a shitshow. I feel like no one is making any sense.
From what I can gather, Bacon thinks surfbum is mafia. I can't seem to find an articulable reason why. Bacon is being really sketchy right now with his pushing for surfbum. Either he's trying to back up JFG or he's got something against surfbum for another reason. Either way, something is definitely going on there and it smells super fishy to me.
JFG thinks Hakuna, Surf, and Carini are mafia. I really don't see what he's basing that off of. It's one thing to have your suspicions of some people, but to call out a group of 3 this early is pretty strong and makes you sound full of shit.
Hakuna, I literally cannot comprehend your posts. You're consistently contradicting yourself and word vomitting.
Carini and Mike D haven't really contributed much at all this round. At least Carini's vote for JFG I can sort of comprehend, but Mike D voting for surfbum at the start and keeping it there seems rather odd and like he's either got something against surfbum or he's just trying not to step on anyone's toes. Either way, it makes me uneasy.
Krissy and Jazmo right now seem like the most reasonable to me, and people that I've been agreeing with.
I can't figure bacons line of reasoning out either, which is exactly why I asked him - and he didn't answer.
I have little opinion of mike D as to if he is mafia or not... But that would make 2 of 3 as him mafia. The odds of that are 1:13.5 which aren't good odds... But who knows. I hear mike D is mafia a lot
What a shitshow. I feel like no one is making any sense.
From what I can gather, Bacon thinks surfbum is mafia. I can't seem to find an articulable reason why. Bacon is being really sketchy right now with his pushing for surfbum. Either he's trying to back up JFG or he's got something against surfbum for another reason. Either way, something is definitely going on there and it smells super fishy to me.
JFG thinks Hakuna, Surf, and Carini are mafia. I really don't see what he's basing that off of. It's one thing to have your suspicions of some people, but to call out a group of 3 this early is pretty strong and makes you sound full of shit.
Hakuna, I literally cannot comprehend your posts. You're consistently contradicting yourself and word vomitting.
Carini and Mike D haven't really contributed much at all this round. At least Carini's vote for JFG I can sort of comprehend, but Mike D voting for surfbum at the start and keeping it there seems rather odd and like he's either got something against surfbum or he's just trying not to step on anyone's toes. Either way, it makes me uneasy.
Krissy and Jazmo right now seem like the most reasonable to me, and people that I've been agreeing with.
I can't figure bacons line of reasoning out either, which is exactly why I asked him - and he didn't answer.
I have little opinion of mike D as to if he is mafia or not... But that would make 2 of 3 as him mafia. The odds of that are 1:13.5 which aren't good odds... But who knows. I hear mike D is mafia a lot
When I changed my vote to Surfbum I did it because I thought the 2 way run-off would be the most useful between him and either carini of JFG. I thought between those two we would most likely to have useful information from it based on the players with votes. Not necessarily suspicious but I figured they represented two different trains of thought that would divide the votes in an interesting and potentially later significant way.
Now after all that has happened since I do believe either Carini or Surfbum are mafia because of the way the votes stacked of JFG.
Also not that this needs to be said again but previous games have zero affect on who is mafia this game.
I can't figure bacons line of reasoning out either, which is exactly why I asked him - and he didn't answer.
I have little opinion of mike D as to if he is mafia or not... But that would make 2 of 3 as him mafia. The odds of that are 1:13.5 which aren't good odds... But who knows. I hear mike D is mafia a lot
When I changed my vote to Surfbum I did it because I thought the 2 way run-off would be the most useful between him and either carini of JFG. I thought between those two we would most likely to have useful information from it based on the players with votes. Not necessarily suspicious but I figured they represented two different trains of thought that would divide the votes in an interesting and potentially later significant way.
Now after all that has happened since I do believe either Carini or Surfbum are mafia because of the way the votes stacked of JFG.
Also not that this needs to be said again but previous games have zero affect on who is mafia this game.
You wanted a 50/50 that you'd be getting a fellow mafia out of the running right off the bat, leaving 2 townies?
I fully realize that previous games are not relevant when it comes to chance this game, but it is a fact that he is mafia a lot. That could either mean that he has a higher or lower chance according to statistics (not chance) of being mafia in this game. Bottom line, it's a game to game basis, judgment wise.
Mafia is clearly very deft this game. Sleepy was a great whack. Points to basically nobody. Sly.
Jimmy, I am actually getting a little lost in all this he said she said we have had today. My vote for surf was based on how I saw the mafia kill and I am happy with a Surf/JFG runoff if it comes to that. With Surf's inconsistencies and discussion I am comfortable with keeping my vote on him.
I am not used to basically everyone saying that the first kill of the game was simply a move to throw off everyone, it is the only piece of info we have that we know for certain the mafia was behind so it would make sense for the mafia to want to get us away from that.
To let yall know where I am, if we are going to say that Krissy was the "too obvious" choice, the mafia killed Sleepy for his vote on Tejas and they weren't able to do anything about it, meaning that the likely suspects are Surf, Bacon, and JFG. These three (along with Krissy) had their votes on me already and could do nothing to "save" Tejas IF Tejas was mafia. It is also possible that there was a vote for Tejas and they thought a move was going to raise too much suspicion, so I could see 1 of Hakunah, Carini, Jimmy or Jaz, but a shot at one of them seems much less likely than a shot at those who voted with Tejas, hence why I am fine with either Surf or JFG at this point. Krissy is still high on my radar though as she was the obvious target of Sleepy and also voted with Tejas.
For reference with the paragraph above, here is the final tally again from last round: Tejas. 6(Hakuna, Carini, Mike D, Jimmy, Jazmo, Sleepy) Mike D. 5(Surfbum, Bacon, Krissyjo, Tejas, jfg)
When I changed my vote to Surfbum I did it because I thought the 2 way run-off would be the most useful between him and either carini of JFG. I thought between those two we would most likely to have useful information from it based on the players with votes. Not necessarily suspicious but I figured they represented two different trains of thought that would divide the votes in an interesting and potentially later significant way.
Now after all that has happened since I do believe either Carini or Surfbum are mafia because of the way the votes stacked of JFG.
Also not that this needs to be said again but previous games have zero affect on who is mafia this game.
You wanted a 50/50 that you'd be getting a fellow mafia out of the running right off the bat, leaving 2 townies?
I fully realize that previous games are not relevant when it comes to chance this game, but it is a fact that he is mafia a lot. That could either mean that he has a higher or lower chance according to statistics (not chance) of being mafia in this game. Bottom line, it's a game to game basis, judgment wise.
Mafia is clearly very deft this game. Sleepy was a great whack. Points to basically nobody. Sly.
....veteran move.
Remember when I tried to create the run-off? I voted you and then gave you the chance to pick the other person in the run-off. That would mean a 50/50 chance of you picking my fellow mafia if that were the scenario.
Sleepy was a great whack. Points to basically nobody
Surf, I would like to directly ask you what you think of the Sleepy whack. To you honestly/fully believe it was just a kill designed to throw off the town? Meaning that out of the 7 other townies, not a single one of us was on the right track or dropped a hint at the inspector that the mafia picked up on?
You wanted a 50/50 that you'd be getting a fellow mafia out of the running right off the bat, leaving 2 townies?
I fully realize that previous games are not relevant when it comes to chance this game, but it is a fact that he is mafia a lot. That could either mean that he has a higher or lower chance according to statistics (not chance) of being mafia in this game. Bottom line, it's a game to game basis, judgment wise.
Mafia is clearly very deft this game. Sleepy was a great whack. Points to basically nobody. Sly.
....veteran move.
Remember when I tried to create the run-off? I voted you and then gave you the chance to pick the other person in the run-off. That would mean a 50/50 chance of you picking my fellow mafia if that were the scenario.
Agreed. A good gamble if it worked out, and if it didn't, possibly you'd have fellow mafia to swing the vote to get me out.
Mike: I still don't see the connection between Tejas or sleepy and I. None. Not following.
Sleepy was a great whack. Points to basically nobody
Surf, I would like to directly ask you what you think of the Sleepy whack. To you honestly/fully believe it was just a kill designed to throw off the town? Meaning that out of the 7 other townies, not a single one of us was on the right track or dropped a hint at the inspector that the mafia picked up on?
The whack doesn't really make any sense at all. Hence my feeling that sleepy was knocked off to create confusion. She and Krissyjo were basically voting partners, and pretty much had to switch to Tejas or you and sleepy picked tejas.
Nothing that sleepy did seems to point to anything.
So mafia may be sitting back going "this's gonna mess with their heads". Gutsy and a seemingly veteran move. Interesting.
It's an off the wall move - possibly orchestrated by someone who made another off the wall move by trying to go straight to a 2 person runoff then forcing the issue by forcing me to choose.
I've not played with you before bacon, but I have to say it doesn't seem like you're trying at all to help the town. You're forcing bad moves down our throats.
Surf - Sleepy only mentioned/voted for Krissy and Tejas, but here I am referring only to Tejas.
If Sleepy was killed for his Tejas vote, I am inclined to believe that there wasn't much that could be done to bail out Tejas. Meaning that if a fellow mafia was voting with Tejas, they can't do anything and Tejas is done for. If Tejas had fellow mafia voting for him, they would have tried something to save him . . . like switch from him to me. No one did switch which points no fellow mafia to help him at that point. If no one could switch, they are voting with Tejas already - you, Bacon, Krissy, and JFG.
Jimmy, I am actually getting a little lost in all this he said she said we have had today. My vote for surf was based on how I saw the mafia kill and I am happy with a Surf/JFG runoff if it comes to that. With Surf's inconsistencies and discussion I am comfortable with keeping my vote on him.
I am not used to basically everyone saying that the first kill of the game was simply a move to throw off everyone, it is the only piece of info we have that we know for certain the mafia was behind so it would make sense for the mafia to want to get us away from that.
To let yall know where I am, if we are going to say that Krissy was the "too obvious" choice, the mafia killed Sleepy for his vote on Tejas and they weren't able to do anything about it, meaning that the likely suspects are Surf, Bacon, and JFG. These three (along with Krissy) had their votes on me already and could do nothing to "save" Tejas IF Tejas was mafia. It is also possible that there was a vote for Tejas and they thought a move was going to raise too much suspicion, so I could see 1 of Hakunah, Carini, Jimmy or Jaz, but a shot at one of them seems much less likely than a shot at those who voted with Tejas, hence why I am fine with either Surf or JFG at this point. Krissy is still high on my radar though as she was the obvious target of Sleepy and also voted with Tejas.
For reference with the paragraph above, here is the final tally again from last round: Tejas. 6(Hakuna, Carini, Mike D, Jimmy, Jazmo, Sleepy) Mike D. 5(Surfbum, Bacon, Krissyjo, Tejas, jfg)
I'm honestly surprised to not be in the runoff myself considering that's where the whack pointed. Still, I never trust Mike D cause he's too good at this game
I'm glad there's been so much discussion today, even if some of it was in circles. Gives us a lot more to work with.
Out of everyone in the runoff, jfg is still my #1 suspect. He's caused the most confusion with his explanations and calling out three people in day 2 with no explanation (that I see) of why.
I'm always a fan of more voting records, so if whittling it to 2 to see where the votes fall, I'm fine with doing that. I see both sides of the argument, though, so I'm honestly not sure if another runoff or just voting jfg out will be more beneficial. IF jfg is mafia, another round is another chance for his mafia buds to try to save him. So I'm not really sure at this point.
Can you guys give me arguments for and against going to another runoff? I'm willing to move my vote from jfg to help a runoff happen if that's what's best. Will more than likely go back to jfg in the last runoff, though.
Jimmy, I am actually getting a little lost in all this he said she said we have had today. My vote for surf was based on how I saw the mafia kill and I am happy with a Surf/JFG runoff if it comes to that. With Surf's inconsistencies and discussion I am comfortable with keeping my vote on him.
I am not used to basically everyone saying that the first kill of the game was simply a move to throw off everyone, it is the only piece of info we have that we know for certain the mafia was behind so it would make sense for the mafia to want to get us away from that.
To let yall know where I am, if we are going to say that Krissy was the "too obvious" choice, the mafia killed Sleepy for his vote on Tejas and they weren't able to do anything about it, meaning that the likely suspects are Surf, Bacon, and JFG. These three (along with Krissy) had their votes on me already and could do nothing to "save" Tejas IF Tejas was mafia. It is also possible that there was a vote for Tejas and they thought a move was going to raise too much suspicion, so I could see 1 of Hakunah, Carini, Jimmy or Jaz, but a shot at one of them seems much less likely than a shot at those who voted with Tejas, hence why I am fine with either Surf or JFG at this point. Krissy is still high on my radar though as she was the obvious target of Sleepy and also voted with Tejas.
For reference with the paragraph above, here is the final tally again from last round: Tejas. 6(Hakuna, Carini, Mike D, Jimmy, Jazmo, Sleepy) Mike D. 5(Surfbum, Bacon, Krissyjo, Tejas, jfg)
I'm honestly surprised to not be in the runoff myself considering that's where the whack pointed. Still, I never trust Mike D cause he's too good at this game
I'm glad there's been so much discussion today, even if some of it was in circles. Gives us a lot more to work with.
Out of everyone in the runoff, jfg is still my #1 suspect. He's caused the most confusion with his explanations and calling out three people in day 2 with no explanation (that I see) of why.
I'm always a fan of more voting records, so if whittling it to 2 to see where the votes fall, I'm fine with doing that. I see both sides of the argument, though, so I'm honestly not sure if another runoff or just voting jfg out will be more beneficial. IF jfg is mafia, another round is another chance for his mafia buds to try to save him. So I'm not really sure at this point.
Can you guys give me arguments for and against going to another runoff? I'm willing to move my vote from jfg to help a runoff happen if that's what's best. Will more than likely go back to jfg in the last runoff, though.
I don't think having a runoff just for the sake of having a run-off is worth anything. Pretty much any scenario I can come up with leaves the deciding vote in the hand of one person (either mike D or Jazmo depending on who is in the run-off). I'm not a fan of doing that
Correct me if I'm wrong, but honestly after reading all the discussion I think we've all but decided already to vote off jfg, so I'm not sure going an extra round of runoffing would do us much good, especially since the mafia already know that we'll be looking to see who saves him. Usually I'd advocate for a runoff - and I say this fully knowing that earlier I called out bacon as suspicious for preferring a two person runoff - but right now I don't think it would get us much further. But then again, bacon thought a three-person runoff wouldn't get us anywhere, and now look where we are - so I could be fine. I'm perfectly fine with another runoff, but the detective in me is anxious for another whack to analyze. (Though with my luck, that'll probably be me lol).
Jimmy, I am actually getting a little lost in all this he said she said we have had today. My vote for surf was based on how I saw the mafia kill and I am happy with a Surf/JFG runoff if it comes to that. With Surf's inconsistencies and discussion I am comfortable with keeping my vote on him.
I am not used to basically everyone saying that the first kill of the game was simply a move to throw off everyone, it is the only piece of info we have that we know for certain the mafia was behind so it would make sense for the mafia to want to get us away from that.
To let yall know where I am, if we are going to say that Krissy was the "too obvious" choice, the mafia killed Sleepy for his vote on Tejas and they weren't able to do anything about it, meaning that the likely suspects are Surf, Bacon, and JFG. These three (along with Krissy) had their votes on me already and could do nothing to "save" Tejas IF Tejas was mafia. It is also possible that there was a vote for Tejas and they thought a move was going to raise too much suspicion, so I could see 1 of Hakunah, Carini, Jimmy or Jaz, but a shot at one of them seems much less likely than a shot at those who voted with Tejas, hence why I am fine with either Surf or JFG at this point. Krissy is still high on my radar though as she was the obvious target of Sleepy and also voted with Tejas.
For reference with the paragraph above, here is the final tally again from last round: Tejas. 6(Hakuna, Carini, Mike D, Jimmy, Jazmo, Sleepy) Mike D. 5(Surfbum, Bacon, Krissyjo, Tejas, jfg)
I'm honestly surprised to not be in the runoff myself considering that's where the whack pointed. Still, I never trust Mike D cause he's too good at this game
I'm glad there's been so much discussion today, even if some of it was in circles. Gives us a lot more to work with.
Out of everyone in the runoff, jfg is still my #1 suspect. He's caused the most confusion with his explanations and calling out three people in day 2 with no explanation (that I see) of why.
I'm always a fan of more voting records, so if whittling it to 2 to see where the votes fall, I'm fine with doing that. I see both sides of the argument, though, so I'm honestly not sure if another runoff or just voting jfg out will be more beneficial. IF jfg is mafia, another round is another chance for his mafia buds to try to save him. So I'm not really sure at this point.
Can you guys give me arguments for and against going to another runoff? I'm willing to move my vote from jfg to help a runoff happen if that's what's best. Will more than likely go back to jfg in the last runoff, though.
Krissy-Who would you want to see in the potential second runoff with JFG?
