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Post by Dale Cooper on Feb 14, 2016 19:45:47 GMT -5
I dont know how you all are ranking TLOP so quick. Took me weeks to realize how much i loved Yeezus. Right now, tlop feels middle of the pack but cant say for sure
Post by Dale Cooper on Feb 15, 2016 12:19:59 GMT -5
Seriously considering switching out the album 30 hours for the version released on Soundcloud. That beat is too good for Kanye to ramble over for two minutes.
I just got around to watching the SNL performance. I haven't listened to TLOP yet, but are those performances indicative of the album?
Because I thought those two songs were hot garbage, with the exception of Chance. His verse was fantastic. Every time I see him, I'm impressed with him.
But excluding Chance, wtf? Was some auto tuned gospel that fell flat to me.
Still going to check out TLOP, but that SNL performance killed any excitement I had for it. Hopefully that was just a fluke.
I just got around to watching the SNL performance. I haven't listened to TLOP yet, but are those performances indicative of the album?
Because I thought those two songs were hot garbage, with the exception of Chance. His verse was fantastic. Every time I see him, I'm impressed with him.
But excluding Chance, wtf? Was some auto tuned gospel that fell flat to me.
Still going to check out TLOP, but that SNL performance killed any excitement I had for it. Hopefully that was just a fluke.
everything about the chance song (ultra light beams) is 1000x better on the actual album
I just got around to watching the SNL performance. I haven't listened to TLOP yet, but are those performances indicative of the album?
Because I thought those two songs were hot garbage, with the exception of Chance. His verse was fantastic. Every time I see him, I'm impressed with him.
But excluding Chance, wtf? Was some auto tuned gospel that fell flat to me.
Still going to check out TLOP, but that SNL performance killed any excitement I had for it. Hopefully that was just a fluke.
you'll dig TLOP if you dig hot shit.
EDIT: to clarify, the SNL performances were not indicative of the bulk of the album. but I dug the SNL performances.
I just got around to watching the SNL performance. I haven't listened to TLOP yet, but are those performances indicative of the album?
Because I thought those two songs were hot garbage, with the exception of Chance. His verse was fantastic. Every time I see him, I'm impressed with him.
But excluding Chance, wtf? Was some auto tuned gospel that fell flat to me.
Still going to check out TLOP, but that SNL performance killed any excitement I had for it. Hopefully that was just a fluke.
That's how I felt about the SNL performances too. I loved the production on the entire album. It's very juvenile at times, especially early. As someone else stated, it really picks up for me and the lyrics begin to somewhat catch up with the beats starting with FML.
I just got around to watching the SNL performance. I haven't listened to TLOP yet, but are those performances indicative of the album?
Because I thought those two songs were hot garbage, with the exception of Chance. His verse was fantastic. Every time I see him, I'm impressed with him.
But excluding Chance, wtf? Was some auto tuned gospel that fell flat to me.
Still going to check out TLOP, but that SNL performance killed any excitement I had for it. Hopefully that was just a fluke.
That's how I felt about the SNL performances too. I loved the production on the entire album. It's very juvenile at times, especially early. As someone else stated, it really picks up for me and the lyrics begin to somewhat catch up with the beats starting with FML.
the verse in FML kind of breaks my heart (in a good way).
while his public persona is 95% arrogance, I feel like his lyrics are about 60% self-loathing, fear, and insecurity. been trying to formulate this thought for a while without sounding like a tool, but for those who hate Kanye, not just don't dig the music and don't care, but actively hate, I don't think they see that insecurity in his lyrics. but to be fair, it's hard for a casual listener to consider the emotional implications of the FML verse when what gets all the attention is bleached assholes and sex with taylor.
Post by Radius Claus on Feb 15, 2016 13:54:38 GMT -5
I'll give him this. I can't recall someone releasing an album this way. And if he's going to change tracks (was it Wolves?) after they've been released to the public for the physical copy, that's a really brilliant move in this digital era. Not only will it create more track sales or Tidal memberships, it will be a huge talking point for years to come. "I liked the first version," Oh, well, I liked the second version."
And if it's true that he is in that much debt...jeez.
I'll give him this. I can't recall someone releasing an album this way. And if he's going to change tracks (was it Wolves?) after they've been released to the public for the physical copy, that's a really brilliant move in this digital era. Not only will it create more track sales or Tidal memberships, it will be a huge talking point for years to come. "I liked the first version," Oh, well, I liked the second version."
And if it's true that he is in that much debt...jeez.
I can believe he's spent a bunch on fashion and other creative endeavors, but I don't think their bank account is anywhere close to the red. Debt is a strange concept. He also may be throwing the mortgage on their newly built castle into the mix.
That's how I felt about the SNL performances too. I loved the production on the entire album. It's very juvenile at times, especially early. As someone else stated, it really picks up for me and the lyrics begin to somewhat catch up with the beats starting with FML.
the verse in FML kind of breaks my heart (in a good way).
while his public persona is 95% arrogance, I feel like his lyrics are about 60% self-loathing, fear, and insecurity. been trying to formulate this thought for a while without sounding like a tool, but for those who hate Kanye, not just don't dig the music and don't care, but actively hate, I don't think they see that insecurity in his lyrics. but to be fair, it's hard for a casual listener to consider the emotional implications of the FML verse when what gets all the attention is bleached assholes and sex with taylor.
After the anger of Yeezus, it really feels like a lot of Pablo sits in resigned sadness. FML, Wolves, Real Friends, Father Part 2, even 30 Hours. Combined with me just now reading the lyrics and watching "I Feel Like That" which came at the end of his All Day video. genius.com/Kanye-west-feel-like-that-lyrics Leaves me feeling for the first time actively concerned for Kanye. But I'm way behind on that song/confessional and Kanye's always been at least bipolar so who the hell knows.
Seriously considering switching out the album 30 hours for the version released on Soundcloud. That beat is too good for Kanye to ramble over for two minutes.
The Bam Bam outro to Famous is so so good.
Have you drove in a car to that version of 30 Hours yet? It's beautiful.
This line kind of irks me. Like aren't crazy people often unaware of their lunacy? They definitely don't go about promoting it.
sure, and we could also throw out stephen hawking, albert einstein, etc., who are geniuses and to the best of my knowledge are/were not crazy. i'm sure we could name many others, but it's the crazy creative geniuses that usually spring to mind. dali, hunter s thompson, et. al.
but I don't think it's entirely accurate to say crazy people are unaware of their lunacy. depends on the illness in question. for example, even someone experiencing a manic bipolar episode can have an understanding of what they are going through, or at least glimpses of it. and when they are not manic they clearly know they are bipolar.
i'm definitely no expert, just drawing on experiences from friends of mine who live with such illnesses.
This line kind of irks me. Like aren't crazy people often unaware of their lunacy? They definitely don't go about promoting it.
sure, and we could also throw out stephen hawking, albert einstein, etc., who are geniuses and to the best of my knowledge are/were not crazy. i'm sure we could name many others, but it's the crazy creative geniuses that usually spring to mind. dali, hunter s thompson, et. al.
but I don't think it's entirely accurate to say crazy people are unaware of their lunacy. depends on the illness in question. for example, even someone experiencing a manic bipolar episode can have an understanding of what they are going through, or at least glimpses of it. and when they are not manic they clearly know they are bipolar.
i'm definitely no expert, just drawing on experiences from friends of mine who live with such illnesses.
I guess my whole point was Kanye isn't insane and it's silly for him to try and pretend it.
sure, and we could also throw out stephen hawking, albert einstein, etc., who are geniuses and to the best of my knowledge are/were not crazy. i'm sure we could name many others, but it's the crazy creative geniuses that usually spring to mind. dali, hunter s thompson, et. al.
but I don't think it's entirely accurate to say crazy people are unaware of their lunacy. depends on the illness in question. for example, even someone experiencing a manic bipolar episode can have an understanding of what they are going through, or at least glimpses of it. and when they are not manic they clearly know they are bipolar.
i'm definitely no expert, just drawing on experiences from friends of mine who live with such illnesses.
I guess my whole point was Kanye isn't insane and it's silly for him to try and pretend it.
Insane and Crazy can have two different meanings. I have a buddy who is not insane, but he sure is crazy.
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