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And buffalo sauce is one of my FAVORITE THINGS EVARRR. I went through a gallon of Frank's Red Hot each semester in college. No joke. One gallon for like 4 months.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
And buffalo sauce is one of my FAVORITE THINGS EVARRR. I went through a gallon of Frank's Red Hot each semester in college. No joke. One gallon for like 4 months.
For next years brunch I'll make us a Buffalo sauce snack and you and me can sit in a corner and be awesome.
I'm neutral about it. I'm a meat fan, but slow roasted and pulled isn't my preferred style. It's good here and there. I also don't really like most BBQ sauces. Too sweet. Once in awhile there is a thinner, vinegar based BBQ sauce that I can really enjoy. I'm not a fan of most of the other sides that are offered with the meat- corn bread, cole slaw... I went to my first BBQ joint in Nash this year and I was totally confused how to order. "BBQ with 2 sides." But BBQ what? I was so confused about what that meant and why there wasn't options: BBQ wings, BBQ pulled pork, etc.. How can one order just BBQ? Isn't that like saying," can I get some Mexican with a side of rice?" To be honest, until a few years ago, I didn't realize BBQ was a specific type of cuisine/restaurant, which is which is why I was so confused. I knew it only as a verb. "Let's BBQ!" "Sounds great! What should I pick up? Some chicken thighs? Or sausages? Kebab fixings?" BBQ just means that you're using the grill to cook. So to say you're having BBQ is an extremely general term to me that I am still trying to wrap my head around what it means to other people.
Barbecue is a word that has adopted lots of meanings because people use it to mean just about anything that comes from a grill. Traditionally, and in 'barbecue' circles, it is a word to describe food cooked low and slow with indirect heat. Certain parts of the country have traditional barbecue meats:texas is beef, Memphis and the southeast is more pork. In memphis for example, 'barbecue' generally means pulled pork shoulder. I dont know any southerners who use barbecue as a verb, they either say "grill" (direct heat, quick) or "smoke" (the method that produces barbecue) And people will look at you funny if you call your grill or smoker a barbecue.
Most commercial bbq sauces are just HFCS and tomato paste. They're awful. Just like meats, different areas have different sauce bases. The Carolinas have mustard based and vinegar based whether you are south, north, or east. Alabama has some gross ass mayo based stuff. The Midwest has the super sweet molasses stuff. Lots of Texas and memphis use more of a dry rub. Memphis also has some vinegar and tomato based sauces for pulled pork depending on the establishment. And a lot of places in memphis will serve your slaw right on the pork and beans beside. And finish up woth banana pudding.
If you're in nashville get spicy chicken most of their barbecue is pretty bad.
I'm neutral about it. I'm a meat fan, but slow roasted and pulled isn't my preferred style. It's good here and there. I also don't really like most BBQ sauces. Too sweet. Once in awhile there is a thinner, vinegar based BBQ sauce that I can really enjoy. I'm not a fan of most of the other sides that are offered with the meat- corn bread, cole slaw... I went to my first BBQ joint in Nash this year and I was totally confused how to order. "BBQ with 2 sides." But BBQ what? I was so confused about what that meant and why there wasn't options: BBQ wings, BBQ pulled pork, etc.. How can one order just BBQ? Isn't that like saying," can I get some Mexican with a side of rice?" To be honest, until a few years ago, I didn't realize BBQ was a specific type of cuisine/restaurant, which is which is why I was so confused. I knew it only as a verb. "Let's BBQ!" "Sounds great! What should I pick up? Some chicken thighs? Or sausages? Kebab fixings?" BBQ just means that you're using the grill to cook. So to say you're having BBQ is an extremely general term to me that I am still trying to wrap my head around what it means to other people.
..........If you're in nashville get hot chicken most of their barbecue is pretty bad.
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I'm neutral about it. I'm a meat fan, but slow roasted and pulled isn't my preferred style. It's good here and there. I also don't really like most BBQ sauces. Too sweet. Once in awhile there is a thinner, vinegar based BBQ sauce that I can really enjoy. I'm not a fan of most of the other sides that are offered with the meat- corn bread, cole slaw... I went to my first BBQ joint in Nash this year and I was totally confused how to order. "BBQ with 2 sides." But BBQ what? I was so confused about what that meant and why there wasn't options: BBQ wings, BBQ pulled pork, etc.. How can one order just BBQ? Isn't that like saying," can I get some Mexican with a side of rice?" To be honest, until a few years ago, I didn't realize BBQ was a specific type of cuisine/restaurant, which is which is why I was so confused. I knew it only as a verb. "Let's BBQ!" "Sounds great! What should I pick up? Some chicken thighs? Or sausages? Kebab fixings?" BBQ just means that you're using the grill to cook. So to say you're having BBQ is an extremely general term to me that I am still trying to wrap my head around what it means to other people.
Barbecue is a word that has adopted lots of meanings because people use it to mean just about anything that comes from a grill. Traditionally, and in 'barbecue' circles, it is a word to describe food cooked low and slow with indirect heat. Certain parts of the country have traditional barbecue meats:texas is beef, Memphis and the southeast is more pork. In memphis for example, 'barbecue' generally means pulled pork shoulder. I dont know any southerners who use barbecue as a verb, they either say "grill" (direct heat, quick) or "smoke" (the method that produces barbecue) And people will look at you funny if you call your grill or smoker a barbecue.
Most commercial bbq sauces are just HFCS and tomato paste. They're awful. Just like meats, different areas have different sauce bases. The Carolinas have mustard based and vinegar based whether you are south, north, or east. Alabama has some gross ass mayo based stuff. The Midwest has the super sweet molasses stuff. Lots of Texas and memphis use more of a dry rub. Memphis also has some vinegar and tomato based sauces for pulled pork depending on the establishment. And a lot of places in memphis will serve your slaw right on the pork and beans beside. And finish up woth banana pudding.
If you're in nashville get spicy chicken most of their barbecue is pretty bad.
I am from West TN originally but Nashville is killing it with BBQ these days, the only other thing I disagree with is that most true Pig BBQ is whole hog not just the shoulder. Sauces do get weird and it is just what you like. I grew up in JAckson TN and we had a clear vinegar hot as balls sauce.
They tell us "Rock'n'roll is the devil's music." Well, let's say we know that rock is the devil's music, and we know that it is, for sure … At least he fuckin' jams! If it's a choice between eternal Hell and good tunes, and eternal Heaven and New Kids on the fuckin' Block … I'm gonna be surfin' on the lake of fire, rockin' out.
I'm neutral about it. I'm a meat fan, but slow roasted and pulled isn't my preferred style. It's good here and there. I also don't really like most BBQ sauces. Too sweet. Once in awhile there is a thinner, vinegar based BBQ sauce that I can really enjoy. I'm not a fan of most of the other sides that are offered with the meat- corn bread, cole slaw... I went to my first BBQ joint in Nash this year and I was totally confused how to order. "BBQ with 2 sides." But BBQ what? I was so confused about what that meant and why there wasn't options: BBQ wings, BBQ pulled pork, etc.. How can one order just BBQ? Isn't that like saying," can I get some Mexican with a side of rice?" To be honest, until a few years ago, I didn't realize BBQ was a specific type of cuisine/restaurant, which is which is why I was so confused. I knew it only as a verb. "Let's BBQ!" "Sounds great! What should I pick up? Some chicken thighs? Or sausages? Kebab fixings?" BBQ just means that you're using the grill to cook. So to say you're having BBQ is an extremely general term to me that I am still trying to wrap my head around what it means to other people.
Traditionally, and in 'barbecue' circles, it is a word to describe food cooked low and slow with indirect heat.
New life goal...to be accepted into a barbeque circle.
On the topic of barbeque, the last time I ate red meat was the end of August. We had left Rudy's in Houston (for those unfamiliar - its an amazing BBQ place attached to a gas station). I was sitting in the car in my food coma and I decided that the meal was so magical that would be the final memory of red meat I would have.
Barbecue is a word that has adopted lots of meanings because people use it to mean just about anything that comes from a grill. Traditionally, and in 'barbecue' circles, it is a word to describe food cooked low and slow with indirect heat. Certain parts of the country have traditional barbecue meats:texas is beef, Memphis and the southeast is more pork. In memphis for example, 'barbecue' generally means pulled pork shoulder. I dont know any southerners who use barbecue as a verb, they either say "grill" (direct heat, quick) or "smoke" (the method that produces barbecue) And people will look at you funny if you call your grill or smoker a barbecue.
Most commercial bbq sauces are just HFCS and tomato paste. They're awful. Just like meats, different areas have different sauce bases. The Carolinas have mustard based and vinegar based whether you are south, north, or east. Alabama has some gross ass mayo based stuff. The Midwest has the super sweet molasses stuff. Lots of Texas and memphis use more of a dry rub. Memphis also has some vinegar and tomato based sauces for pulled pork depending on the establishment. And a lot of places in memphis will serve your slaw right on the pork and beans beside. And finish up woth banana pudding.
If you're in nashville get spicy chicken most of their barbecue is pretty bad.
I am from West TN originally but Nashville is killing it with BBQ these days, the only other thing I disagree with is that most true Pig BBQ is whole hog not just the shoulder. Sauces do get weird and it is just what you like. I grew up in JAckson TN and we had a clear vinegar hot as balls sauce.
I lived in tennessee for 26 years, most of it in memphis. Whole hog is usually for competitions and such. whens the last time you saw a commerical bbq place where you could get whole hog cuts?
Nashville may have gotten better recently. Most of my roommates form college were from Nashville, and I've spent a good deal of time there. to get good barbecue in middle tennessee you had to get rural...like morrison and a place in tullahoma. the stuff in the city was just bland and most times just steamed and finished on a grill. so while nashville barbecue may have improved, that article is based on reader votes and I'm just going to assume that there is both sampling bias and the prevailing misconception that nashville, as a part of the south and home of country music, MUST have good barbecue.
edit: I have had some hot ass vinegar sauce from Jackson though. a buddy brought some back with a ton of pulled pork to our dorm freshman year and we ate it for a week straight. good stuff.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
I am from West TN originally but Nashville is killing it with BBQ these days, the only other thing I disagree with is that most true Pig BBQ is whole hog not just the shoulder. Sauces do get weird and it is just what you like. I grew up in JAckson TN and we had a clear vinegar hot as balls sauce.
I lived in tennessee for 26 years, most of it in memphis. Whole hog is usually for competitions and such. whens the last time you saw a commerical bbq place where you could get whole hog cuts?
Nashville may have gotten better recently. Most of my roommates form college were from Nashville, and I've spent a good deal of time there. to get good barbecue in middle tennessee you had to get rural...like morrison and a place in tullahoma. the stuff in the city was just bland and most times just steamed and finished on a grill. so while nashville barbecue may have improved, that article is based on reader votes and I'm just going to assume that there is both sampling bias and the prevailing misconception that nashville, as a part of the south and home of country music, MUST have good barbecue.
edit: I have had some hot ass vinegar sauce from Jackson though. a buddy brought some back with a ton of pulled pork to our dorm freshman year and we ate it for a week straight. good stuff.
I can get whole hog any day of the week at Peg Leg Porkers, I have had plenty of Memphis BBQ over the years, but these days like I said NAshville is just killing it.
They tell us "Rock'n'roll is the devil's music." Well, let's say we know that rock is the devil's music, and we know that it is, for sure … At least he fuckin' jams! If it's a choice between eternal Hell and good tunes, and eternal Heaven and New Kids on the fuckin' Block … I'm gonna be surfin' on the lake of fire, rockin' out.
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I lived in tennessee for 26 years, most of it in memphis. Whole hog is usually for competitions and such. whens the last time you saw a commerical bbq place where you could get whole hog cuts?
Nashville may have gotten better recently. Most of my roommates form college were from Nashville, and I've spent a good deal of time there. to get good barbecue in middle tennessee you had to get rural...like morrison and a place in tullahoma. the stuff in the city was just bland and most times just steamed and finished on a grill. so while nashville barbecue may have improved, that article is based on reader votes and I'm just going to assume that there is both sampling bias and the prevailing misconception that nashville, as a part of the south and home of country music, MUST have good barbecue.
edit: I have had some hot ass vinegar sauce from Jackson though. a buddy brought some back with a ton of pulled pork to our dorm freshman year and we ate it for a week straight. good stuff.
I can get whole hog any day of the week at Peg Leg Porkers, I have had plenty of Memphis BBQ over the years, but these days like I said NAshville is just killing it.
maybe you can, but i don't see any pig besides ribs and pulled pork on the menu. not trying to start a pissing match about barbecue, I've just never seen whole hog cuts on a menu. and that place definitely wasn't open when I was round those parts.
I can get whole hog any day of the week at Peg Leg Porkers, I have had plenty of Memphis BBQ over the years, but these days like I said NAshville is just killing it.
maybe you can, but i don't see any pig besides ribs and pulled pork on the menu. not trying to start a pissing match about barbecue, I've just never seen whole hog cuts on a menu. and that place definitely wasn't open when I was round those parts.
It is new, but yeah he does whole hogs out back every two days. Five years ago you were correct and it really sucked here if you wanted good BBQ. Nashville has just taken off these days, our food and music scene just keep getting better and better.
They tell us "Rock'n'roll is the devil's music." Well, let's say we know that rock is the devil's music, and we know that it is, for sure … At least he fuckin' jams! If it's a choice between eternal Hell and good tunes, and eternal Heaven and New Kids on the fuckin' Block … I'm gonna be surfin' on the lake of fire, rockin' out.
This is a fine debate and all. But I think the conclusion is that the Brit should come to Buffalo.
I am just going wade in right about now. I dislike buffalo sauce. it just tastes like salt to me, I am certain I have only had bad versions of it, but it isn't good.
No one has ever wished me a blessed day, in TN they mostly "OH MY GOD, WHERE ARE YOU FROM?!", we actually had a few marriage proposals, but mostly from very odd, but charming young women.
Has anyone found me a job/wife yet?
Sorry I can't engage fully, we have very different internet usage patterns.
Post by fwstringer on Oct 10, 2014 13:49:52 GMT -5
We are starting to see more a mercian style barbecue here. We even ran our own night, we have two smokers in our garden now (thanks to experiences in TN this summer). I am trying to do more food events and less of my traditional job.
So you can see that barbecue is important to me!
Our barbecues are burnt sausages and burgers cooked on something y'all would call a grill. It has its merits but the attraction isn't there for me.
Best of luck with your move, fwstringer. I can't really help you with practical suggestions, exactly - but I trust that if this is what you really want, then it will happen for you.
Why do these things have to be so complicated? I have an American passport that I won't be needing for the foreseeable future; can't I just give that to you?
Post by fwstringer on Oct 10, 2014 16:39:03 GMT -5
Yeah my favourite was in Subway in the Walmart in Manchester before the gates opened.
I went in first and the girl behind the counter nearly fainted when I spoke. Then Tom went in after me and got a similar reaction.
When I was over before I went to hooters with a friend and my Grandad (!) and when my grandad went to the toilet we got invited to go and party with the hooters girls.
This time we were out in Knoxville, just chatting away outside a bar and in about 5 minutes we were completely surrounded by girls just listening to us.
Also, Americans don't drink like us, many people asked us if we were alright when we were drunk. Turns out we drink way more than you lot.
Best of luck with your move, fwstringer. I can't really help you with practical suggestions, exactly - but I trust that if this is what you really want, then it will happen for you.
Why do these things have to be so complicated? I have an American passport that I won't be needing for the foreseeable future; can't I just give that to you?
Thanks. I do really want it. I know I can make it happen but it will take time. I'm not going to expect it to happen fast.
It is one of the things that really annoys me. I was made in Germany, born in Britain and that decides who I am and where I live.
I am pretty anti this whole country thing, I don't understand blind patriotism. My flag is a piece of material that is only worth anything to me because hundreds of people singed it for us. My leader is a fool elected by people who just can't understand. It doesn't feel like home but it is forced.
My politics won't work very well in TN, but I don't worry much about that. I enjoy a good discussion.
Yeah my favourite was in Subway in the Walmart in Manchester before the gates opened.
I went in first and the girl behind the counter nearly fainted when I spoke. Then Tom went in after me and got a similar reaction.
When I was over before I went to hooters with a friend and my Grandad (!) and when my grandad went to the toilet we got invited to go and party with the hooters girls.
This time we were out in Knoxville, just chatting away outside a bar and in about 5 minutes we were completely surrounded by girls just listening to us.
Also, Americans don't drink like us, many people asked us if we were alright when we were drunk. Turns out we drink way more than you lot.
I heard an ol' English bloke that had lived here in the States for 30 + years say that when his chaps from across the pond come over and have drinks at his home his American wife can't understand a word they are saying by the end of the night.
Best of luck with your move, fwstringer. I can't really help you with practical suggestions, exactly - but I trust that if this is what you really want, then it will happen for you.
Why do these things have to be so complicated? I have an American passport that I won't be needing for the foreseeable future; can't I just give that to you?
Thanks. I do really want it. I know I can make it happen but it will take time. I'm not going to expect it to happen fast.
It is one of the things that really annoys me. I was made in Germany, born in Britain and that decides who I am and where I live.
I am pretty anti this whole country thing, I don't understand blind patriotism. My flag is a piece of material that is only worth anything to me because hundreds of people singed it for us. My leader is a fool elected by people who just can't understand. It doesn't feel like home but it is forced.
My politics won't work very well in TN, but I don't worry much about that. I enjoy a good discussion.
As long as you are in Nashville most people will be on the same page as you politically we are a progressive city.
They tell us "Rock'n'roll is the devil's music." Well, let's say we know that rock is the devil's music, and we know that it is, for sure … At least he fuckin' jams! If it's a choice between eternal Hell and good tunes, and eternal Heaven and New Kids on the fuckin' Block … I'm gonna be surfin' on the lake of fire, rockin' out.
I was in Austin for SXSW when I was 21 and I met an american football team who were amazed that i could down half a pint of Guinness. At this point I had been drinking in pubs for the best part of 7 years.
wolfmanjess To be honest, the folks I met in Knoxville whilst I was out seemed pretty reasonable too. I figure there is a place for all types in every city, it just takes some looking for. I have never met an unkind American. Apart from the boyfriends of the girls who were suddenly very keen to talk to the english boys.
I was in Austin for SXSW when I was 21 and I met an american football team who were amazed that i could down half a pint of Guinness. At this point I had been drinking in pubs for the best part of 7 years.
wolfmanjess To be honest, the folks I met in Knoxville whilst I was out seemed pretty reasonable too. I figure there is a place for all types in every city, it just takes some looking for. I have never met an unkind American. Apart from the boyfriends of the girls who were suddenly very keen to talk to the english boys.
Tennessee, is a pretty great place to live. So what kind of work do you do, Vanderbilt University hands out a lot of H1-B's.
They tell us "Rock'n'roll is the devil's music." Well, let's say we know that rock is the devil's music, and we know that it is, for sure … At least he fuckin' jams! If it's a choice between eternal Hell and good tunes, and eternal Heaven and New Kids on the fuckin' Block … I'm gonna be surfin' on the lake of fire, rockin' out.
Best of luck with your move, fwstringer. I can't really help you with practical suggestions, exactly - but I trust that if this is what you really want, then it will happen for you.
Why do these things have to be so complicated? I have an American passport that I won't be needing for the foreseeable future; can't I just give that to you?
Thanks. I do really want it. I know I can make it happen but it will take time. I'm not going to expect it to happen fast.
It is one of the things that really annoys me. I was made in Germany, born in Britain and that decides who I am and where I live.
I am pretty anti this whole country thing, I don't understand blind patriotism. My flag is a piece of material that is only worth anything to me because hundreds of people singed it for us. My leader is a fool elected by people who just can't understand. It doesn't feel like home but it is forced.
My politics won't work very well in TN, but I don't worry much about that. I enjoy a good discussion.
I know exactly what you mean. My grandfather was a diplomat, so my dad was born in New Zealand to Aussie parents, and lived there until age 4. But because he wasn't born in his home country, until about five years ago, he would have had to give up his Australian citizenship to become an American citizen - despite being married to an American for 30 years. If my mum had gotten tired of him, she could have sent him packing far away from his kids.
Meanwhile, I was born in NYC and lived there until age 6 - but as much as I love it, it doesn't truly feel like home to me, so much as a place I know and love. Somebody who's been putting down roots in the city for a year or so is just as much of a New Yorker as I am, IMO. At what point does this all just become totally arbitrary?
I was in Austin for SXSW when I was 21 and I met an american football team who were amazed that i could down half a pint of Guinness. At this point I had been drinking in pubs for the best part of 7 years.
wolfmanjess To be honest, the folks I met in Knoxville whilst I was out seemed pretty reasonable too. I figure there is a place for all types in every city, it just takes some looking for. I have never met an unkind American. Apart from the boyfriends of the girls who were suddenly very keen to talk to the english boys.
Tennessee, is a pretty great place to live. So what kind of work do you do, Vanderbilt University hands out a lot of H1-B's.
I work for a University Students' Union. I basically do market research, data analysis and quality control on all the actions we take as a Union. I think our students' unions are way more active and have a very different set up to American universities.
But my degree is in conservation, the tree hugging type.
And all of my freckles and auburn hair say "pfft" as well.
Not that I don't like the taste, for for drinking purposes.(and really...what other purpose is it other than to get white girl wasted) if I'm drinking beer I'll go for an IPA or something that has an alcohol content of 7% or higher. I am, in fact a lady. And I would rather drink 7 beers at 7%, than 20 beers at 4%.
Or just fuck all of that bullshit I just ejaculated all over the place and pour me a plastic cup full of whiskey and call it a night.
Tennessee, is a pretty great place to live. So what kind of work do you do, Vanderbilt University hands out a lot of H1-B's.
I work for a University Students' Union. I basically do market research, data analysis and quality control on all the actions we take as a Union. I think our students' unions are way more active and have a very different set up to American universities.
But my degree is in conservation, the tree hugging type.
You probably want to check out both the State Gov. for a possible job. I know a couple TN state employees with work visas. Some job postings are through the main state website and others are through individual agency websites (got to hunt for these). You might also want to check out the City of Knoxville and Nashville's for positions.
And all of my freckles and auburn hair say "pfft" as well.
Not that I don't like the taste, for for drinking purposes.(and really...what other purpose is it other than to get white girl wasted) if I'm drinking beer I'll go for an IPA or something that has an alcohol content of 7% or higher. I am, in fact a lady. And I would rather drink 7 beers at 7%, than 20 beers at 4%.
Or just fuck all of that bullshit I just ejaculated all over the place and pour me a plastic cup full of whiskey and call it a night.
I am of the complete same opinion as you. And my freckles and red hair don't change what I drink. Just my level of sun cream.
I drank what I was given and walked away.
But for future reference I will remiember that you keen to make sure every knows you like strong beer and criticising.
I work for a University Students' Union. I basically do market research, data analysis and quality control on all the actions we take as a Union. I think our students' unions are way more active and have a very different set up to American universities.
But my degree is in conservation, the tree hugging type.
You probably want to check out both the State Gov. for a possible job. I know a couple TN state employees with work visas. Some job postings are through the main state website and others are through individual agency websites (got to hunt for these). You might also want to check out the City of Knoxville and Nashville's for positions.
Massachusetts has a booming sustainable energy sector, and Boston is a world class city with many different global companies. It's worth checking out if you're job hunting in the states.
but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal. 
