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Post by davidbyrnesbutler on May 20, 2015 10:13:16 GMT -5
Coachella is better than Hangout music wise.
Hangout is better atmosphere wise.
This is why Coachella is more popular and a better festival. Artist talent trumps atmosphere. I don't see why you have to compare the two in the first place though. Coachella is the best North American festival and Hangout is a great regional festival. They aren't at the same level. It's like comparing Glasto with Governors Ball. Obviously Glasto is going to beat a regional festival 10/10 times.
This is why Coachella is more popular and a better festival. Artist talent trumps atmosphere. I don't see why you have to compare the two in the first place though. Coachella is the best North American festival and Hangout is a great regional festival. They aren't at the same level. It's like comparing Glasto with Governors Ball. Obviously Glasto is going to beat a regional festival 10/10 times.
Completely agree. You can't compare a festival capped at 40k people to something like Lolla, Coachella, Roo, imo. If they put together a lineup that keeps them in the convo with those then they did a great job. Lolla's lineup is great this year and their schedule worked out perfect too. I still won't have as much fun at Lolla as I did at hangout this year. They're just 2 diff experiences.
This is why Coachella is more popular and a better festival. Artist talent trumps atmosphere. I don't see why you have to compare the two in the first place though. Coachella is the best North American festival and Hangout is a great regional festival. They aren't at the same level. It's like comparing Glasto with Governors Ball. Obviously Glasto is going to beat a regional festival 10/10 times.
Fair points, and I know you weren't talking to me, but I jumped in later to say I would never go because the thread got trolled. A lot of people think Coachella is the best festival, but there is a plethora of shit I would never want to see at any point in my life. I guess that goes for a lot of other festivals too, but there was a pretty strong concentration of streamed music that bored me beyond tears. However, I don't think the music level trumps either Jazzfest, Big Ears or Newport Folk, though admittedly the festival experience itself might end up being better - assuming you are willing to want to watch a set without a beer in your hand. That's a deal-breaker for me. So regardless of how great or wonderful or whatever that festival is, it's dead to me and I think a ton of other people as well. If I lived in the Southland, I'd probably consider going at some point. But there's no way I'd travel from the South to Southern California to go to it. And I'm not alone. You also have to consider that there are way more sets and performers at Coachella, so you have more to choose from (for better and worse).
This is why Coachella is more popular and a better festival. Artist talent trumps atmosphere. I don't see why you have to compare the two in the first place though. Coachella is the best North American festival and Hangout is a great regional festival. They aren't at the same level. It's like comparing Glasto with Governors Ball. Obviously Glasto is going to beat a regional festival 10/10 times.
Fair points, and I know you weren't talking to me, but I jumped in later to say I would never go because the thread got trolled. A lot of people think Coachella is the best festival, but there is a plethora of shit I would never want to see at any point in my life. I guess that goes for a lot of other festivals too, but there was a pretty strong concentration of streamed music that bored me beyond tears. However, I don't think the music level trumps either Jazzfest, Big Ears or Newport Folk, though admittedly the festival experience itself might end up being better - assuming you are willing to want to watch a set without a beer in your hand. That's a deal-breaker for me. So regardless of how great or wonderful or whatever that festival is, it's dead to me and I think a ton of other people as well. If I lived in the Southland, I'd probably consider going at some point. But there's no way I'd travel from the South to Southern California to go to it. And I'm not alone. You also have to consider that there are way more sets and performers at Coachella, so you have more to choose from (for better and worse).
The quality and variety of music at Coachella is definitely better than Jazzfest, NFF, and Big Ears. These festivals are drops in the bucket compared to Coachella. NFF has a long history but the lineups aren't blowing my mind.
Variety may trump Newport, but I wouldn't say the quality. Big Ears might be niche, but it's musicians' music and not pop, indie and rock so much. I'd completely disagree that it musically trumps Jazzfest, particularly when you consider the night shows. I don't think Coachella has a leg to stand on there whatsoever. I'm not a homer for Jazzfest, as I've said several times it is my least favorite festival in New Orleans of the main 3. But I would completely stand behind it from a musical standpoint. The Jazzfest 10 day run, night shows, late night shows and overnight shows are superior. I had this discussion with someone a few weeks ago, and while Jazzfest will put most of its daily headliners vs. each other, after 7 when the lights come on at almost every venue in town, it's incomparable. And musically it's pretty much as good as it gets. You're not going to get an assload of Sirius/XM oriented stuff, and I understand that's what some people will want. But almost anyone who is anyone is in town that weekend.
This is why Coachella is more popular and a better festival. Artist talent trumps atmosphere. I don't see why you have to compare the two in the first place though. Coachella is the best North American festival and Hangout is a great regional festival. They aren't at the same level. It's like comparing Glasto with Governors Ball. Obviously Glasto is going to beat a regional festival 10/10 times.
When you say "atmosphere," are you speaking strictly about the crowd and the types of people who attend? Because that aspect of Coachella is so overblown its not even funny. It gets way more media coverage due to its proximity to LA, and so of course certain angle are played up, but I found that the crowds there were really engaged and pretty courteous. Really no different from any other festival I've ever attended, and honestly I thought the majority of people I met were more respectful than the people I met the last time I was at Bonnaroo. The "woo, party" types mainly stick to the Sahara, so unless you want bullshit cheese EDM (and if you want that, just go to Ultra or any of the other 100000 fests around), you're fine.
And if you're talking about setting, I'd argue that Coachella holds the advantage there, too. Yes, Hangout has the beach, I get it. And that's honestly pretty cool, watching music by the ocean is excellent. But anyone who has ever been to Coachella can attest that they have simply the finest art installations of any festival in America - I'd wager they spend as much on awesome shit to look at an experience as many other fests do on music. The natural desert sunsets, plus the palm trees and the mountains all make for a pretty awesome natural setting. Plus, it's the best grass you're ever going to experience at any festival, as the grounds and facilities are immaculate.
I was speaking more about setting. The types of people don't really bother me at any festival I've been too except for Perry's at Lollapalooza. I see your point about the art installations. That's my biggest issue with Bonnaroo. They have the capability to have great art but lack anything exciting come festival time.
I also agree with the LA type being pushed my the media is overblown. That Jimmy Kimmel sketch a few years ago was supposed to be funny, not a census.
With the loyalty GA tickets going from $180 to $209 I'd like to think the lineup does have a chance to get bumped up a notch at the top while keeping a very solid undercard like they had this year. Hoping this wouldn't be too unrealistic...
PAUL MCCARTNEY | MUMFORD & SONS | THE STROKES FLORENCE & THE MACHINE | DISCLOSURE | ALABAMA SHAKES | TAME IMPALA
With the loyalty GA tickets going from $180 to $209 I'd like to think the lineup does have a chance to get bumped up a notch at the top while keeping a very solid undercard like they had this year. Hoping this wouldn't be too unrealistic...
PAUL MCCARTNEY | MUMFORD & SONS | THE STROKES FLORENCE & THE MACHINE | DISCLOSURE | ALABAMA SHAKES | TAME IMPALA
That'd be a great start to the top couple lines.
Don't do this to me zaj. I'm already having withdrawals. Don't put the image of this lineup on the beach in my head.
This is why Coachella is more popular and a better festival. Artist talent trumps atmosphere. I don't see why you have to compare the two in the first place though. Coachella is the best North American festival and Hangout is a great regional festival. They aren't at the same level. It's like comparing Glasto with Governors Ball. Obviously Glasto is going to beat a regional festival 10/10 times.
When you say "atmosphere," are you speaking strictly about the crowd and the types of people who attend? Because that aspect of Coachella is so overblown its not even funny. It gets way more media coverage due to its proximity to LA, and so of course certain angle are played up, but I found that the crowds there were really engaged and pretty courteous. Really no different from any other festival I've ever attended, and honestly I thought the majority of people I met were more respectful than the people I met the last time I was at Bonnaroo. The "woo, party" types mainly stick to the Sahara, so unless you want bullshit cheese EDM (and if you want that, just go to Ultra or any of the other 100000 fests around), you're fine.
And if you're talking about setting, I'd argue that Coachella holds the advantage there, too. Yes, Hangout has the beach, I get it. And that's honestly pretty cool, watching music by the ocean is excellent. But anyone who has ever been to Coachella can attest that they have simply the finest art installations of any festival in America - I'd wager they spend as much on awesome shit to look at an experience as many other fests do on music. The natural desert sunsets, plus the palm trees and the mountains all make for a pretty awesome natural setting. Plus, it's the best grass you're ever going to experience at any festival, as the grounds and facilities are immaculate.
I've now been to both Hangout and Coachella, having gone to Coachella Weekend 1 this year, and I have to agree that Coachella offers a slightly better setting. The art is beyond top notch: Everywhere you look there is something mind blowing or thought provoking (Corporate Headquarters) to see. There's also the view of the polo grounds spread out around you and the mountains in the distance. It's quite awe inspiring. For me, though it's a close toss up just due to the beach at Hangout. We went the VIP route to Hangout in 13, and swimming in a pool or sitting in the sand and watching an act like Jim James with the palm trees and the gulf in the distance was beyond relaxing and nearly as awe inspiring. That's why we've already decided we're returning to Hangout in 16. As for the beer garden discussion, I'll say this: I thought I'd hate it, as did my wife, but we literally had zero issues with it at Coachella this year. When we wanted a beer, we'd go grab one in between shows. They also had a huge beer garden near the main stage and another sizable one near the second stage. We watched Jenny Lewis into Ryan Adams from the second stage garden. We also noticed the grounds stayed much nicer throughout the weekend because everywhere you looked there wasn't a discarded plastic beer cup. That's an aesthetic plus in my eyes in terms of the overall experience.
With the loyalty GA tickets going from $180 to $209 I'd like to think the lineup does have a chance to get bumped up a notch at the top while keeping a very solid undercard like they had this year. Hoping this wouldn't be too unrealistic...
PAUL MCCARTNEY | MUMFORD & SONS | THE STROKES FLORENCE & THE MACHINE | DISCLOSURE | ALABAMA SHAKES | TAME IMPALA
That'd be a great start to the top couple lines.
If you've been following the Bonnaroo threads over the past year, you should know that's a dangerous assumption to make. GA passes increased about $30-40 with nothing to show for it in terms of the lineup. And yes, four headliners, one of them being Paul, is unrealistic for this festival.
Probably right NowhereMan. I guess I'm underestimating the price for acts in the 3/4 spot like The Strokes and Florence. I feel like if Firefly can get Paul/Killers/Kings, if Hangout bumped up the price a bit, with GV's backing, why couldnt they get something like Paul/Mumford/Strokes? I know we all take shots at Kings of Leon and The Killers, but I would assume both would be more expensive than The Strokes or Florence.
With the loyalty GA tickets going from $180 to $209 I'd like to think the lineup does have a chance to get bumped up a notch at the top while keeping a very solid undercard like they had this year. Hoping this wouldn't be too unrealistic...
PAUL MCCARTNEY | MUMFORD & SONS | THE STROKES FLORENCE & THE MACHINE | DISCLOSURE | ALABAMA SHAKES | TAME IMPALA
That'd be a great start to the top couple lines.
If you've been following the Bonnaroo threads over the past year, you should know that's a dangerous assumption to make. GA passes increased about $30-40 with nothing to show for it in terms of the lineup. And yes, four headliners, one of them being Paul, is unrealistic for this festival.
Also, I know someone asks this every year but I'm not gonna sift through the older threads, which condo/hotel complex is the one literally inside the fest that you can look out onto the Surf/Chevy stage to? Is it even possible to book that?
EDIT: Nvm found it on google. Phoenix All Suites Hotel.
Post by Radius Claus on May 20, 2015 16:17:15 GMT -5
Why don't they allow beer out of the gardens at Coachella?
I'd love to go to Coachella as it normally boasts the best lineup each year for my tastes. I'm excited about the future of Hangout and it's partnership with Goldenvoice.
Also, what is the VIP experience like at Coachella? If there's a better media/vip experience at any festival, I'd like to know so I could attend.
Also, I'm willing to bet that the interstate leading in to Coachella is better than I59 in Alabama. I've been to six Hangouts and this stretch of road has been ridiculous for each ride home. What gives Bama?
Post by livetunage on May 20, 2015 16:22:48 GMT -5
After the massive success that the repeat headliners of Foo Fighters and Zac Brown Band were, I think we'll definitely getting RHCP next year....so here goes my bet:
Why don't they allow beer out of the gardens at Coachella?
I'd love to go to Coachella as it normally boasts the best lineup each year for my tastes. I'm excited about the future of Hangout and it's partnership with Goldenvoice.
Also, what is the VIP experience like at Coachella? If there's a better media/vip experience at any festival, I'd like to know so I could attend.
Also, I'm willing to bet that the interstate leading in to Coachella is better than I59 in Alabama. I've been to six Hangouts and this stretch of road has been ridiculous for each ride home. What gives Bama?
take the foley/baldwin beach express from Orange beach to i-10. tons less lights
When you say "atmosphere," are you speaking strictly about the crowd and the types of people who attend? Because that aspect of Coachella is so overblown its not even funny. It gets way more media coverage due to its proximity to LA, and so of course certain angle are played up, but I found that the crowds there were really engaged and pretty courteous. Really no different from any other festival I've ever attended, and honestly I thought the majority of people I met were more respectful than the people I met the last time I was at Bonnaroo. The "woo, party" types mainly stick to the Sahara, so unless you want bullshit cheese EDM (and if you want that, just go to Ultra or any of the other 100000 fests around), you're fine.
And if you're talking about setting, I'd argue that Coachella holds the advantage there, too. Yes, Hangout has the beach, I get it. And that's honestly pretty cool, watching music by the ocean is excellent. But anyone who has ever been to Coachella can attest that they have simply the finest art installations of any festival in America - I'd wager they spend as much on awesome shit to look at an experience as many other fests do on music. The natural desert sunsets, plus the palm trees and the mountains all make for a pretty awesome natural setting. Plus, it's the best grass you're ever going to experience at any festival, as the grounds and facilities are immaculate.
I've now been to both Hangout and Coachella, having gone to Coachella Weekend 1 this year, and I have to agree that Coachella offers a slightly better setting. The art is beyond top notch: Everywhere you look there is something mind blowing or thought provoking (Corporate Headquarters) to see. There's also the view of the polo grounds spread out around you and the mountains in the distance. It's quite awe inspiring. For me, though it's a close toss up just due to the beach at Hangout. We went the VIP route to Hangout in 13, and swimming in a pool or sitting in the sand and watching an act like Jim James with the palm trees and the gulf in the distance was beyond relaxing and nearly as awe inspiring. That's why we've already decided we're returning to Hangout in 16. As for the beer garden discussion, I'll say this: I thought I'd hate it, as did my wife, but we literally had zero issues with it at Coachella this year. When we wanted a beer, we'd go grab one in between shows. They also had a huge beer garden near the main stage and another sizable one near the second stage. We watched Jenny Lewis into Ryan Adams from the second stage garden. We also noticed the grounds stayed much nicer throughout the weekend because everywhere you looked there wasn't a discarded plastic beer cup. That's an aesthetic plus in my eyes in terms of the overall experience.
I've been to Coachella twice, and this was my first year for Hangout, and I pretty much agree with everything said. Although my first time at Coachella was also my first festival experience, and it really was life change for me. (Dr. Dre, Snoop, 50 Cent, Eminem, Wiz, Kendrick, hologram Tupac all in 1 set is something you can't get out of your head.) Hangout, though was up there for sure, and I see myself returning to the beach before the polo fields.
One thing I wish would change about Hangout... you only really get to see 2 shows per night (unless you split them up.) I wish they could extend the times to around 1am and fit more night shows.
Post by livetunage on May 20, 2015 16:30:27 GMT -5
After the massive success that the repeat headliners of Foo Fighters and Zac Brown Band were, I think we'll definitely getting RHCP next year....so here goes my bet:
Why don't they allow beer out of the gardens at Coachella?
I'd love to go to Coachella as it normally boasts the best lineup each year for my tastes. I'm excited about the future of Hangout and it's partnership with Goldenvoice.
Also, what is the VIP experience like at Coachella? If there's a better media/vip experience at any festival, I'd like to know so I could attend.
Also, I'm willing to bet that the interstate leading in to Coachella is better than I59 in Alabama. I've been to six Hangouts and this stretch of road has been ridiculous for each ride home. What gives Bama?
take the foley/baldwin beach express from Orange beach to i-10. tons less lights
Thanks to all who recommended this. We came down on 59 as we had a few stops to make but went home up the Beach Express and it cut a good 45 minutes off our trip.
With the loyalty GA tickets going from $180 to $209 I'd like to think the lineup does have a chance to get bumped up a notch at the top while keeping a very solid undercard like they had this year. Hoping this wouldn't be too unrealistic...
PAUL MCCARTNEY | MUMFORD & SONS | THE STROKES FLORENCE & THE MACHINE | DISCLOSURE | ALABAMA SHAKES | TAME IMPALA
That'd be a great start to the top couple lines.
I took Alabama Shakes off my mocks when it was announced they are playing the Wharf in late August.
Second half the set kicked it. I'm only disappointed I missed 2nd set of String Cheese to post up on the rail. But I can only suggest, "blood sugar baby, she has it..."
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