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Post by potentpotables on Apr 6, 2015 19:36:35 GMT -5
This should come as no surprise:
potent >>> jazmo
FWIW, I would have rather faced Krissy in the final runoff. I do not think Jaz is mafia, but I know that I am not. If I am lynched, then so be it, it does not bother me, but as I've said all game, don't play as if you killed me as a mafia person, because you will be wrong and you'll be going down the wrong path.
Post by Farrisbueller on Apr 6, 2015 21:25:12 GMT -5
I would suggest those who have already placed their vote to keep it where it is, at least until the two undecided votes get made. I don't want something messing up the way they make their votes as I am very interested in their decisions, and I don't want someone getting antsy and making a quick move that would allow the two outstanding votes to have an easier decision to make.
My thoughts are that we probably had at least one mafia member since the first runoff. I did a complete re-read again today that is solidifying my suspicions of Jazmo over Potent for this final runoff.
If Potent is mafia, I'd rather get rid of the bigger question mark in Jazmo since there hasn't been nearly the amount of heat coming his way. Potent will always be in the back of our minds this game due to his activity and I doubt the town would let Potent survive through the towns last day if we did keep him around today (I sure wouldn't, barring any unforseen events that may make potents mafia status more clear). Jazmo on the otherhand, could be this games Billybaroo and try to fade away if he survives through the first day. I don't want to run that risk.
As others have stated, the wack will give us good info, and may break some of the theories I've been running with recently, but its the best I can go off of at this point in the game.
Post by Farrisbueller on Apr 6, 2015 21:31:23 GMT -5
Rummy 500, what happened to you reviewing the last few pages and asserting your vote? Made it sound like you were going to post quickly, but its been 10 hours.
I would suggest those who have already placed their vote to keep it where it is, at least until the two undecided votes get made. I don't want something messing up the way they make their votes as I am very interested in their decisions, and I don't want someone getting antsy and making a quick move that would allow the two outstanding votes to have an easier decision to make.
My thoughts are that we probably had at least one mafia member since the first runoff. I did a complete re-read again today that is solidifying my suspicions of Jazmo over Potent for this final runoff.
If Potent is mafia, I'd rather get rid of the bigger question mark in Jazmo since there hasn't been nearly the amount of heat coming his way. Potent will always be in the back of our minds this game due to his activity and I doubt the town would let Potent survive through the towns last day if we did keep him around today (I sure wouldn't, barring any unforseen events that may make potents mafia status more clear). Jazmo on the otherhand, could be this games Billybaroo and try to fade away if he survives through the first day. I don't want to run that risk.
As others have stated, the wack will give us good info, and may break some of the theories I've been running with recently, but its the best I can go off of at this point in the game.
So do you think it was Jaz, or one of the gals? I assume you don't think it was me because your vote is on Jaz, and, well you know - I'm #notmafia.
Just skimmed through the relevant conversations that have transpired and damn, I really feel pretty 50/50 on this. Don't feel compelled to vote either off as an accused Mafia member. But after review, I have slightly higher suspicious of Jaz, if I had to choose.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Rummy 500, what happened to you reviewing the last few pages and asserting your vote? Made it sound like you were going to post quickly, but its been 10 hours.
I was busy in NC all day with family, then driving back up to DC for five hours.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
I would suggest those who have already placed their vote to keep it where it is, at least until the two undecided votes get made. I don't want something messing up the way they make their votes as I am very interested in their decisions, and I don't want someone getting antsy and making a quick move that would allow the two outstanding votes to have an easier decision to make.
My thoughts are that we probably had at least one mafia member since the first runoff. I did a complete re-read again today that is solidifying my suspicions of Jazmo over Potent for this final runoff.
If Potent is mafia, I'd rather get rid of the bigger question mark in Jazmo since there hasn't been nearly the amount of heat coming his way. Potent will always be in the back of our minds this game due to his activity and I doubt the town would let Potent survive through the towns last day if we did keep him around today (I sure wouldn't, barring any unforseen events that may make potents mafia status more clear). Jazmo on the otherhand, could be this games Billybaroo and try to fade away if he survives through the first day. I don't want to run that risk.
As others have stated, the wack will give us good info, and may break some of the theories I've been running with recently, but its the best I can go off of at this point in the game.
So do you think it was Jaz, or one of the gals? I assume you don't think it was me because your vote is on Jaz, and, well you know - I'm #notmafia.
To be honest, I don't know. It could be any one, or a combination of a couple. But I am certainly not ruling you out in any scenario.
The way its been as talkative as it has makes me more open to the idea of multiple mafia members being in the runoff at some point. I can see how only the runoff participants talking most could be painted as no mafia in the runoff, but with the way votes got switched around throughout, it makes me lean towards mafia presence.
I don't disagree with you, but don't you think that the same strategy would be attempted by a townie as well? After all, EVERYBODY in this game has a vested interest in deflecting suspicions and votes off of themselves. That's why you gotta take pretty much what anyone says with a grain of salt.
Exactly - someone's desire to deflect suspicions off of themselves is definitely not necessarily indicative of Mafia status. The town and investigator don't wanna die either!
Yeah, but a smart town and inspector also wouldn't want a cluttered and difficult to parse thread......
Farrisbueller and Rummy 500 - Since you two are the most recent to mention Jaz as suspicious, can you explain that a bit further? I ask because when I went through, I found potent to be more suspicious, however, I may have blinders on since I've viewed his actions as suspicious for a while now. I want to see what you guys see about Jaz because I may have missed something.
Farrisbueller and Rummy 500 - Since you two are the most recent to mention Jaz as suspicious, can you explain that a bit further? I ask because when I went through, I found potent to be more suspicious, however, I may have blinders on since I've viewed his actions as suspicious for a while now. I want to see what you guys see about Jaz because I may have missed something.
I first want to respond to something you mentioned earlier, I never implicated you specifically in reference to some of the runoff participants hopping on the Potent lynch train a couple rounds back, although you did at one point agree in wanting to skip a three person runoff as well.
I feel I've explained my actions much more than Rummy has up to this point. You see, with Jaz its more about what he said, and who he applied pressure to and who he didnt, and when he applied the pressure he did on certain people like Potent. Potent for me, sold me a good deal when he offered himself up for lynch. Although we discussed how it would hurt the town, his action of sacrifice would not logically have been made by a mafia member (save for a select few circumstances). That alone makes me willing to give him another shot until next round.
I see a few people asking me to further explicate my most recent vote for Jaz, and I'm happy to do so once I get into work (en route now) and have a moment of free time. I've been posting without much rationale stated for my decisions the past few days because I was on a trip and basically only checking on my phone when I did, so I wasn't able to quote shit etc. I'll post from a computer in a couple hours.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Ok, I am not going to give tainted an easy out here.
I am not sure if we have a mafia in these two are not, but I do not think keeping potent around is a good idea. For one he changed his vote 5 or so times before we got in the runoff, which is something I can not get behind. Some might find that ok, I don't. It causes too much confusion. That being said I also think 14 pages for day one is excessive and when it comes to later in the game all of that clutter is going to make it harder to get a grip on who said what, but I digress.
Farris's statement also makes no sense to me, you claim that if potent is mafia you would rather get rid of jaz?! I'm not a scientist but I know enough to know we are trying to get RID of the mafia. You then go on to say that potent will be an easy target later on, but jaz will "fade away". Why is that exactly? From my experience pretty much everyone who is in the day one runoff fades away (at least in day 2), why is potent different?
Lastly, Potent offering himself up does nothing to clear him IMO. In fact I find it makes him that much more suspicious. Why, you might be wondering? BECAUSE IT IS WORKING. If potent makes it through he will be able to use that excuse for the rest of the game, an excuse that has already been used to clear his name once in the past page mind you.
Ok, I am not going to give tainted an easy out here.
I am not sure if we have a mafia in these two are not, but I do not think keeping potent around is a good idea. For one he changed his vote 5 or so times before we got in the runoff, which is something I can not get behind. Some might find that ok, I don't. It causes too much confusion. That being said I also think 14 pages for day one is excessive and when it comes to later in the game all of that clutter is going to make it harder to get a grip on who said what, but I digress.
Farris's statement also makes no sense to me, you claim that if potent is mafia you would rather get rid of jaz?! I'm not a scientist but I know enough to know we are trying to get RID of the mafia. You then go on to say that potent will be an easy target later on, but jaz will "fade away". Why is that exactly? From my experience pretty much everyone who is in the day one runoff fades away (at least in day 2), why is potent different?
Lastly, Potent offering himself up does nothing to clear him IMO. In fact I find it makes him that much more suspicious. Why, you might be wondering? BECAUSE IT IS WORKING. If potent makes it through he will be able to use that excuse for the rest of the game, an excuse that has already been used to clear his name once in the past page mind you.
bogart > jaz > potent
I am quite conflicted on this round, as Jazmo and Potent have each done things I can only describe as questionable. I feel it should be noted, we pretty much all have.
Oon the one hand, there's Jazmo. Jaz had me feeling nervous in the beginning based on what I perceived at the time as him pouncing on pretty much anything that moved. He showed me through fair quoting that he was actually quite selective in his approach. This detail has ultimately proven to be both a benefit and a burden, as for me it does not clear his name in one direction or the other.
On the other hand, there is potent. Potent has been spotlighted from early on as being suspicious, and has remained comfortably responsive throughout though in a way that raises alarms. Potent bothers me because I don't necessarily find their approach as a guilty one - making them either an innocent townie or a wolf in sheep skin. Bogart, it looks like you're having the same debate on that topic. I feel its necessary to note that regardless of who makes it through this round, suspicions will be placed not only on the survivor but pretty much every remaining player moving forward. I may be wrong in this respect, but for me - I won't take my eyes off potent or jaz any less than I would the rest of the people in this game. No one has really done a good job of clearing their name as town on Day 1, and it will take Day 2 starting then progressing for the possibility of that to happen again.
With all that in mind, my vote is swinging in Jazmos direction at this point, as it has since early in the game. I agree entirely that jumping votes is suspicious, and I agree entirely that tunnel vision is suspicious. This substance of day one of this thread has been nebulous to the point that it gives me a hangover just reading it. I won't place my vote yet because I want to read through one more time to make sure I've seen what I need to see and not ignored something obvious.
Wait, important question: how do you take multiple quoted sections and put them into a post together? I have tried copying and pasting the quotes into one post, but it doesn't seem to work. Am I doing something wrong?
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Wait, important question: how do you take multiple quoted sections and put them into a post together? I have tried copying and pasting the quotes into one post, but it doesn't seem to work. Am I doing something wrong?
On each post that you want quote, click on the gear box and click "Select Post". Then when you get to the final post you want to quote, hit "Quote" as usual. All the posts you selected should then be quoted. You can do this across multiple pages too.
I just woke up and I need to get ready for work. I will get back to this thread later today.
Wait, important question: how do you take multiple quoted sections and put them into a post together? I have tried copying and pasting the quotes into one post, but it doesn't seem to work. Am I doing something wrong?
On each post that you want quote, click on the gear box and click "Select Post". Then when you get to the final post you want to quote, hit "Quote" as usual. All the posts you selected should then be quoted. You can do this across multiple pages too.
I just woke up and I need to get ready for work. I will get back to this thread later today.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Also, bogart and Son of a Beek - Since both of you said that some of your suspicions of me are based upon me "wanting" to be in the runoff. Where does that put me in your eyes considering potent just offered himself up for the lynch?
I need to catch up on the thread, but from what I've read I've made a 180 on my opinion of Potent. I'll make a more informed post later
"testing his theory" was basically code for "I'm moving my vote to see if you will move your vote". Also, recognizing that to manufacture the 2 person runoff from the 4 person runoff would be pretty difficult to do quickly, so the only option to go forward was to have a 3 person runoff. I put my vote on Jaz, if Jimmyroo would have put his vote on you then we would have had a 3 person runoff with his two desired people.
But at this point, I also think that another runoff is going to hurt the town more than help the town. I've stated I believe twice that I'm worried none of the 4 in the runoff are mafia. Any more runoffs are going to lead to more false connections. Jaz actually believes that there is a devious connection between me and Tainted Opossum (there isn't, for what it's worth - at least on my end, I have no idea if Tainted is mafia). I'm worried that the townies are chasing false leads at this point, and I can tell you for a fact that chasing any lead with me is going to lead you to a dead end and possibly a mafia win depending how much you believe I'm mafia.
I think the town needs to get back to focusing on who is really mafia instead of chasing these false leads. I don't see how another runoff involving 3 people helps the town, and I'm not really sure a 2 person runoff helps the town either.
This is the post that changed my mind on Potent because it makes no sense. With four people in a runoff just voting potent off directly would've hurt the town and he should realize that if he was a townie. First of all we lose a member of the town and are off to a bad start, then we eliminate any possibility of voting off any mafia just in case Potent's gut feeling was wrong. Even if there are no mafia in the current runoff it makes no sense to just lynch a townie. But I'm not entirely convinced that potent is mafia either. I did a 180 in the sense that I went from no suspicion of him to there being a very real possibility he is mafia, but I'm not completely sold.
Jim: Why have you kept your vote on me this entire game (and then locking it, no less), even though your suspicions have been on Krissy and Potent? You stated that it was to preserve the runoff between Krissy and Potent, when in fact your locking on me did nothing of the sort. If you actually wanted Krissy and Potent in the runoff, you had opportunity to move your vote and make it so. Your words don't match up with your actions, especially because your failure to move your vote prevented exactly what you said you wanted (a Krissy/Potent runoff).
I'm maybe just super technologically incompetent, but I keep trying to do the "select post" for a few and then quote the last, and it is giving me an error message. Really frustrating. Can you just trust that these are direct quotes pulled? You can of course go back and check on them if you want - I will even put the page number that each is from.
So, my vote towards Jaz is not particularly indicative of
Page 2, Potent:
Well, there were two people voting for you. I was one of them. I'm not suspicious of myself. The gut feeling was that Rummaging is not mafia. If she was, I don't think she would have stacked on you so quickly. That's my gut feeling.
Knowing that his theory is correct here as it applies to me and that honestly my first move was silly, but I am town and just wasn't really thinking about the implications of stacking. The way that he described his belief that I was town by way of my move and his own (ostensible) town status gave me the impression of one town to another understanding each other as one in the same.
Page 8, Potent:
I'm pretty convinced that I'm going to be lynched on this day. It's kind of depressing because I'm a townie, and I like playing this game, but like I've said repeatedly in this game someone has to die.
All I would like is for townies, after my death, to consider the possibility that I *might* be a townie. That will help you solve the problem.
I still just don't think that the Mafia would speak like this - and of course it COULD be a ploy, to "seem" like he's offering himself as an innocent town member blah blah, but with how the numbers have shaken out, I just don't think the Mafia crew would have stood by and let him do this on Day One. I guess you guys could bridge a potential connection between me and Potent, if we were both mafia and thus this vote is me "saving" him - but I know for a fact that I'm town, and I'm thinking he is too. There is just more that leads me to believe that he must be a fellow townsperson than I've seen to convince me Jaz is. But I don't reallllly believe either to be Mafia. Not much to do about that now though, as it is between the two of them for the lynch.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
I'm maybe just super technologically incompetent, but I keep trying to do the "select post" for a few and then quote the last, and it is giving me an error message. Really frustrating. Can you just trust that these are direct quotes pulled? You can of course go back and check on them if you want - I will even put the page number that each is from.
So, my vote towards Jaz is not particularly indicative of
Page 2, Potent:
Well, there were two people voting for you. I was one of them. I'm not suspicious of myself. The gut feeling was that Rummaging is not mafia. If she was, I don't think she would have stacked on you so quickly. That's my gut feeling.
Knowing that his theory is correct here as it applies to me and that honestly my first move was silly, but I am town and just wasn't really thinking about the implications of stacking. The way that he described his belief that I was town by way of my move and his own (ostensible) town status gave me the impression of one town to another understanding each other as one in the same.
Page 8, Potent:
I'm pretty convinced that I'm going to be lynched on this day. It's kind of depressing because I'm a townie, and I like playing this game, but like I've said repeatedly in this game someone has to die.
All I would like is for townies, after my death, to consider the possibility that I *might* be a townie. That will help you solve the problem.
I still just don't think that the Mafia would speak like this - and of course it COULD be a ploy, to "seem" like he's offering himself as an innocent town member blah blah, but with how the numbers have shaken out, I just don't think the Mafia crew would have stood by and let him do this on Day One. I guess you guys could bridge a potential connection between me and Potent, if we were both mafia and thus this vote is me "saving" him - but I know for a fact that I'm town, and I'm thinking he is too. There is just more that leads me to believe that he must be a fellow townsperson than I've seen to convince me Jaz is. But I don't reallllly believe either to be Mafia. Not much to do about that now though, as it is between the two of them for the lynch.
This is what I was referring to as my gut feeling in the very, very beginning of the game. When Rummy made her initial vote for Jaz, I thought it highly unlikely that she would stack on him so quickly if she were mafia.
Jaz has said the entire runoff that he is not sure whether I am a mafia member, but he thinks it is most likely that I am mafia out of those in the runoff.
I've said the entire runoff that I actually am not convinced any of the four of us were mafia (if I had to pick one it would have been Krissy), but when deciding between me and Jaz, from my point of view Jaz has to be the most likely to be mafia, because I'm a townie.
Frankly, I think the mafia are happy either way here, as their disadvantage will go from 8-3 to 6-3 as soon as the whack is made.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Post by potentpotables on Apr 7, 2015 14:49:53 GMT -5
Added to the post above - Jaz has said that vote hasn't made him suspicious, so it's more directed toward anyone who finds that initial vote switch of mine to be suspicious.
I'm here to answer any questions I can until the runoff ends.
I'm maybe just super technologically incompetent, but I keep trying to do the "select post" for a few and then quote the last, and it is giving me an error message. Really frustrating. Can you just trust that these are direct quotes pulled? You can of course go back and check on them if you want - I will even put the page number that each is from.
So, my vote towards Jaz is not particularly indicative of
Page 2, Potent:
Knowing that his theory is correct here as it applies to me and that honestly my first move was silly, but I am town and just wasn't really thinking about the implications of stacking. The way that he described his belief that I was town by way of my move and his own (ostensible) town status gave me the impression of one town to another understanding each other as one in the same.
Page 8, Potent: I still just don't think that the Mafia would speak like this - and of course it COULD be a ploy, to "seem" like he's offering himself as an innocent town member blah blah, but with how the numbers have shaken out, I just don't think the Mafia crew would have stood by and let him do this on Day One. I guess you guys could bridge a potential connection between me and Potent, if we were both mafia and thus this vote is me "saving" him - but I know for a fact that I'm town, and I'm thinking he is too. There is just more that leads me to believe that he must be a fellow townsperson than I've seen to convince me Jaz is. But I don't reallllly believe either to be Mafia. Not much to do about that now though, as it is between the two of them for the lynch.
I've said the entire runoff that I actually am not convinced any of the four of us were mafia (if I had to pick one it would have been Krissy), but when deciding between me and Jaz, from my point of view Jaz has to be the most likely to be mafia, because I'm a townie.
Frankly, I think the mafia are happy either way here, as their disadvantage will go from 8-3 to 6-3 as soon as the whack is made.
Yep - I think if one of the four of us were the Mafia, Krissy is most likely. Wish she'd been in the final run off, but what can ya do!
Also, question: so you guys play where the whack occurs after the lynching of that day? Or have the Mafia already decided who dies for this round? I know the way that I've always played in person, but the OP is a little vague about the timing of it with this online version.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
