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Season 3 has been interesting. I appreciate the more straightforward, "organic" (as Esmail called it) feel this season, but the pacing is going way too slow for me. That episode solely dedicated to Tyrell, while well-directed, was just a bit of a waste in the narrative in my opinion. I get that Esmail is trying to fix the problem he made with season 2, which was that he relied so much on the unreliable narrator trope that the narrative had lost all credibility, and that he wanted to put to rest the theory that Tyrell was another of Elliot's manifestations, but it's also taking away from what made this show so much fun to begin with, while progressing the narrative way too little. Stage 2 has still not happened?? Really? I also really miss the "fever-dream" feel of season 2. I just didn't like the bogus twist of Elliot having been in prison for half the season. Also I'm not sure about how I feel about Elliot and Mr. Robot being a split-personality type deal now. I get that it's meant to be easier for the audience to follow and to place more trust in the narrative, but it just seems kind of... cheap? ANYWAY-
THere's still a lot to like here. The most recent episode was awesome. Super tense. I liked the way it was edited to seem like one-shot. The acting is just as superb, if not more so, than the previous seasons. Bobby Cannavale steals every scene as "Irving". The use of music, both the soundtrack and the score, is thrilling and moving when it needs to be. I really just need more to start happening. Up until this most recent "one-shot" episode, it just seems season 3 has just been responding to all of the criticisms of season 2. Something big needs to happen by the end of this season, but if not I'll probably still tune in for season 4. I still watch Walking Dead after all.
I can agree with most of what you're saying here, but I think I've enjoyed season 3 a little more than you have. Personally, the thing that I'm most surprised about is that I've grown more fond of Elliot as revolutionary leader Mr. Robot than tortured hacker genius Elliot. It has the same feel as Breaking Bad in a lot of ways. I'm enjoying seeing him succeed as the "bad guy." I'm starting to see him as weak when he tries to stop their plans. My favorite version of Elliot might always be season 1 innocent Elliot, struggling with his mental state and loneliness. I felt connected to that person, partially because I, too, was struggling with loneliness, etc. But now I want him to flip their world on it's head. I like him being the best, even if it's when he's being his worst.
I can agree with most of what you're saying here, but I think I've enjoyed season 3 a little more than you have. Personally, the thing that I'm most surprised about is that I've grown more fond of Elliot as revolutionary leader Mr. Robot than tortured hacker genius Elliot. It has the same feel as Breaking Bad in a lot of ways. I'm enjoying seeing him succeed as the "bad guy." I'm starting to see him as weak when he tries to stop their plans. My favorite version of Elliot might always be season 1 innocent Elliot, struggling with his mental state and loneliness. I felt connected to that person, partially because I, too, was struggling with loneliness, etc. But now I want him to flip their world on it's head. I like him being the best, even if it's when he's being his worst.
Yeah I know how you feel. It's another small issue I have with this show, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel. Season 1 seemed to really want us to root for Elliot going about his F.Society ways and bringing down E-Corp and modern society with it, but the latter half of Season 2 and pretty much all of season 3 has been trying to get us to keep moral ground and painting Dark Army, Irving, Tyrell, and Stage 2 as an antagonistic force. Season 1 was the major appeal, so like you I want them to succeed with the hack, but also I want Elliot to come out on top. Maybe that's what Esmail is trying to accomplish here, having the audience feel as confused and conflicted as Elliot. Even he has been missing Mr. Robot and has been having an internal struggle to give up on the hack.
And for what it's worth I have been enjoying this season a lot, maybe just not as much as the previous ones. This show has always had glaring flaws, but like other shows like Game of Thrones and Stranger Things, they are easy to overlook because it still gets a lot right and is way too much fun to stop watching.
Holy shit. Just watched this week's episode. Despite multiple moments where I was shaking my head, what an ending!
What I love about this show is that it is confident enough to have the viewer think situations are ridiculous or stupid so that an episode or two down the line we all go "holy shit, I totally get why they did it that way now"
Why did Tyrell give himself up like that and how does it relate to what was in the envelope Irving gave him? Was he following Irving's "instructions", or was there maybe something in the envelope like pictures of Joanna's death that made him flip? The way Irving said "I'm Sorry" makes it seem like it could go either way. There were no recovery files in the New York building, so Tyrell must have known it wasn't going to blow since he was in charge of moving them. And did it not blow because Elliot actually stopped it, or was there never a bomb in there to begin with?
I feel like what I'm supposed to be thinking is that Tyrell purposefully shipped all of the records to other buildings he knew were going to blow and let Elliot be distracted with the 'decoy' NY building so he couldn't interfere with the others. Or was Tyrell in the dark about the other buildings? So many questions. Thank god they arent skipping this week with the holidays.
Also, Dom might be my favorite character right now.
Why did Tyrell give himself up like that and how does it relate to what was in the envelope Irving gave him? Was he following Irving's "instructions", or was there maybe something in the envelope like pictures of Joanna's death that made him flip? The way Irving said "I'm Sorry" makes it seem like it could go either way. There were no recovery files in the New York building, so Tyrell must have known it wasn't going to blow since he was in charge of moving them. And did it not blow because Elliot actually stopped it, or was there never a bomb in there to begin with?
I feel like what I'm supposed to be thinking is that Tyrell purposefully shipped all of the records to other buildings he knew were going to blow and let Elliot be distracted with the 'decoy' NY building so he couldn't interfere with the others. Or was Tyrell in the dark about the other buildings? So many questions. Thank god they arent skipping this week with the holidays.
Also, Dom might be my favorite character right now.
Literally all this. Not to mention is this still all somehow Mr Robot's plan? And how do all the lead characters cope with this? White Rose is SAVAGE
Post by SupeЯfuЯЯyanimal on Dec 16, 2017 2:39:53 GMT -5
Just binged the season this week. I liked it better than 2. Started a bit uneventful but the last half was really solid, except for the episode with him and the kid. It was decent on it's own merits but was quite a momentum killer following the three before it.
I'm starting to lose patience with what they are doing with Angela's character. It's feels like they are just tying her in knots to service the plot and/or highlight thematic elements.
I really love the music ques on this show. Especilly out of left field selections like Gordon Lightfoot.
Just discovered the Xfinity voice remote has an easter egg(?) when you say Mr. Robot... it either says “Hello Friend” or “Are you a one or a zero?”. I have never noticed that for any other show.
This week's episode, and the huge revelations it produced, makes me almost want to rewatch the entire series again but from a different lenses. The bastard did it again! So many aspects of Elliot's past, his personality, his mission, his psychology, his awkwardness... It all makes so much sense now. Not to mention every single story or flashback can be viewed in an entirely different way now.
This season has been tremendously entertaining. Each episode has been its own truly unique viewing experience. The acting in this last episode was reel after reel of Emmy tape for those actors.
Last episode was great. Was happy to see White Rose go down in that fashion and everything else go down the way they planned, apart from Price getting gunned down in public of course. But with 4 episodes left, it makes me wonder what else needs to be resolved apart from some closure on some characters. I'm guessing White Rose will strike back some how? Or maybe some unexpected blowback from bankrupting the top 1%?
I'm sitting here crying after watching that finale. I had my doubts but it was such a perfect ending. I'm going to truly miss this show, but what an amazing ride it has been.
I saw the double ep this morning and I was just in awe how it all came together. Sure, there are some things that are unanswered but the biggest and hardest thing in my perspective was explaining everything surrounding Eliott was done so well. The imaginary, the metaphors, the acting. So well executed. I can see myself returning to this show in a few months and paying attention to every little detail now that I know how it ends because from a writing standpoint, this was a spectacular ride.
I hate that they killed him of like that, he was one of my favorite characters. The one I was stuck with was the meeting between WR and Angela in S3 (?).
This is best write-up I've found so far, but I'm still looking.
The entirety of Season 4, in particular the final 8 episodes or so, have been just incredible. Every hour was unique and creative and challenging. It's truly one of those shows that has flipped itself on its head so many times, each time allowing you to re-watch each previous episode from a new perspective. And I feel like that ending actually made sense, brought things to a full conclusion, and honestly was just super meta.
I mean, here I am mourning the fact that I don't get to see any more new episodes of these characters, of these actors and scripts and this director/writer. Just like our Elliot is having to digest ending things at the right time for the sake of the hopeful future for this "real" Elliot.
It's not a show for everyone, but for those of us that needed this show, it delivered.
At the end of part 1 of the finale it was almost going to seem as if the whole series was just made up in normal Elliot's mind, and for some reason I was cool with that.
At the end of part 1 of the finale it was almost going to seem as if the whole series was just made up in normal Elliot's mind, and for some reason I was cool with that.
Throughout the series Esmail did a really good job of demonstrating that his risks would pay off. By the end of the series I had a lot of faith that he would end the show well.
