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You need to slow your roll. I didn't get defensive because you asked innocuous questions. I got fed up with exactly what Jimmy mentioned. You always sit back, wait til everyone else has voted, then step in and finally vote. Just tired of it, so stopped playing your little game.
You are much more active this game, which almost makes me wonder if something is up with you.
You don't find it reasonable to ask why over half the town hadn't voted with 12 hours left in the round?
I guess not voting til the last minute is normal to you, so I guess I can understand that.
Yes, it is entirely possible that the Rummy whack was done to frame Jazmo, I have not rules that possibility out. However, I'm not going to completely ignore it either. That's why I didn't say I was locked on Jaz, I'm more than open to debate on it.
I tried to open a conversation with you. You were the only vote at that point, and it was the opposite way you went the day before and since you gave no reason, I thought it fair to ask. We were the only ones responding at that point. Who else was I supposed to ask what? If I read that wrong, well that will be on me.
You shut down, and it gave me reason to wonder why. If you were at all interested in asking me a specific and relevent question, I didn't see it.
Slow my roll, I'm not even voting for you. Just 'talking'; sorry.
You've just got my neck hairs up with some contradictions you've made. How can I be 'silent' and 'more talkative this game' at the same time?
Idk, out of the three I mentioned - eap, carini, rothric (you) - I put you third highest. Just where I am right now.
You're not silent this game, I said you're much more active this game than previous ones. Yet you still didn't vote til 3 hours before the deadline, which had already been extended once. So even when you are more active, you still don't place a fucking vote til the end.
Are you going to wait until 9.59.59am tomorrow to answer?
I'm going to leave this for a while to the rest of the town. Check back in an hour or so. I'm staying on eap, citing this circus act she just tried to pull as further reason.
Are you going to wait until 9.59.59am tomorrow to answer?
I'm going to leave this for a while to the rest of the town. Check back in an hour or so. I'm staying on eap, citing this circus act she just tried to pull as further reason.
i actually totally forgot.
it is really hard for me to play during the day b/c i teach and have to wait for breaks without the kids. last night i had someone over for dinner and then today i had enrichment classes after school.
i honestly have no idea who to vote for. i feel like rummy spoke of both of you.
I go back and forth whether I find Jaz or Jfg more suspicious, so wouldn't be too upset to see either go. I don't think they're both Mafia, but I do think one of them is.
So for the moment, not moving my vote as my only options would be to ensure Jfg is lynched (which he's on that path right now already), or eliminating Jaz from contention and creating another runoff between Jfg and EAP (who I feel is the least suspicious of the 3).
Because there is only one vote left and he won't vote for himself, the round is tentatively scheduled to end at 10pm EST TONIGHT, Wednesday, November 11th.
Extensions will be considered and granted liberally at first. Any votes occurring in the last two hours will trigger an immediate 12 hour extension.
If you have a problem with this, feel free to PM me or talk about it in the thread.
Because there is only one vote left and he won't vote for himself, the round is tentatively scheduled to end at 10pm EST TONIGHT, Wednesday, November 11th.
Extensions will be considered and granted liberally at first. Any votes occurring in the last two hours will trigger an immediate 12 hour extension.
If you have a problem with this, feel free to PM me or talk about it in the thread.
Jfg > Jaz - I'm not going to make a vote two minutes after the deadline, and sheepishly say "sorry".
Second day in a row I'm voting for someone who is lower on my list than others. Although jaz going stealth helps me swallow the pill. Maybe he is mafia, idk.
Unless jaz is or dragon was mafia, we are probably looking at the end tonight.
She is going to laugh so hard when the game is over.
Because there is only one vote left and he won't vote for himself, the round is tentatively scheduled to end at 10pm EST TONIGHT, Wednesday, November 11th.
Extensions will be considered and granted liberally at first. Any votes occurring in the last two hours will trigger an immediate 12 hour extension.
If you have a problem with this, feel free to PM me or talk about it in the thread.
Because there is only one vote left and he won't vote for himself, the round is tentatively scheduled to end at 10pm EST TONIGHT, Wednesday, November 11th.
Extensions will be considered and granted liberally at first. Any votes occurring in the last two hours will trigger an immediate 12 hour extension.
If you have a problem with this, feel free to PM me or talk about it in the thread.
Jfg > Jaz - I'm not going to make a vote two minutes after the deadline, and sheepishly say "sorry".
Second day in a row I'm voting for someone who is lower on my list than others. Although jaz going stealth helps me swallow the pill. Maybe he is mafia, idk.
Unless jaz is or dragon was mafia, we are probably looking at the end tonight.
She is going to laugh so hard when the game is over.
Who is "she" who will be laughing hard when the game is over?
Because there is only one vote left and he won't vote for himself, the round is tentatively scheduled to end at 10pm EST TONIGHT, Wednesday, November 11th.
Extensions will be considered and granted liberally at first. Any votes occurring in the last two hours will trigger an immediate 12 hour extension.
If you have a problem with this, feel free to PM me or talk about it in the thread.
Jfg > Jaz - I'm not going to make a vote two minutes after the deadline, and sheepishly say "sorry".
Second day in a row I'm voting for someone who is lower on my list than others. Although jaz going stealth helps me swallow the pill. Maybe he is mafia, idk.
Unless jaz is or dragon was mafia, we are probably looking at the end tonight.
She is going to laugh so hard when the game is over.
Eh, I'm not so much going stealth as much as I've just accepted how this round was gonna go after I saw that Rummy was whacked. I've been thrown into multiple runoffs for no reason, and now that the people who have been advocating for me to get voted off have a reason (because I can see how the whack points to me), I'm most likely going to get voted off. I recognize that, so I'm not going to run around screaming about how I'm being framed - I learned from the last game that it's just not worth the effort and no one's going to listen anyway.
I know I'm not Mafia, and the whacks in conjunction with each other warrant my vote on JFG. The other (less likely, imo) possibility is that if Rummy was actually inspector, she believed me to be Mafia based on who she knew to be Mafia/town and where different votes were placed. But that's more speculative, as I don't have such knowledge and therefore can't draw anything from it.
Jfg > Jaz - I'm not going to make a vote two minutes after the deadline, and sheepishly say "sorry".
Second day in a row I'm voting for someone who is lower on my list than others. Although jaz going stealth helps me swallow the pill. Maybe he is mafia, idk.
Unless jaz is or dragon was mafia, we are probably looking at the end tonight.
She is going to laugh so hard when the game is over.
Who is "she" who will be laughing hard when the game is over?
The only she still in the game; the only she who wansnt whacked. The she I was voting for? How did you not get that?
Jfg > Jaz - I'm not going to make a vote two minutes after the deadline, and sheepishly say "sorry".
Second day in a row I'm voting for someone who is lower on my list than others. Although jaz going stealth helps me swallow the pill. Maybe he is mafia, idk.
Unless jaz is or dragon was mafia, we are probably looking at the end tonight.
She is going to laugh so hard when the game is over.
Eh, I'm not so much going stealth as much as I've just accepted how this round was gonna go after I saw that Rummy was whacked. I've been thrown into multiple runoffs for no reason, and now that the people who have been advocating for me to get voted off have a reason (because I can see how the whack points to me), I'm most likely going to get voted off. I recognize that, so I'm not going to run around screaming about how I'm being framed - I learned from the last game that it's just not worth the effort and no one's going to listen anyway.
I know I'm not Mafia, and the whacks in conjunction with each other warrant my vote on JFG. The other (less likely, imo) possibility is that if Rummy was actually inspector, she believed me to be Mafia based on who she knew to be Mafia/town and where different votes were placed. But that's more speculative, as I don't have such knowledge and therefore can't draw anything from it.
Other than that, I've got nothing to add.
I am completely open to changing my vote to Jfg, not locked on you by any means. Jfg has very much been on my radar.
I know I fucked up not listening to your rationale last game, and promise I'll read anything you write with an open mind. Can't promise I'll agree and change my vote, but I will go into it with an open mind.
Eh, I'm not so much going stealth as much as I've just accepted how this round was gonna go after I saw that Rummy was whacked. I've been thrown into multiple runoffs for no reason, and now that the people who have been advocating for me to get voted off have a reason (because I can see how the whack points to me), I'm most likely going to get voted off. I recognize that, so I'm not going to run around screaming about how I'm being framed - I learned from the last game that it's just not worth the effort and no one's going to listen anyway.
I know I'm not Mafia, and the whacks in conjunction with each other warrant my vote on JFG. The other (less likely, imo) possibility is that if Rummy was actually inspector, she believed me to be Mafia based on who she knew to be Mafia/town and where different votes were placed. But that's more speculative, as I don't have such knowledge and therefore can't draw anything from it.
Other than that, I've got nothing to add.
I am completely open to changing my vote to Jfg, not locked on you by any means. Jfg has very much been on my radar.
I know I fucked up not listening to your rationale last game, and promise I'll read anything you write with an open mind. Can't promise I'll agree and change my vote, but I will go into it with an open mind.
I appreciate that, but in this game I don't have the knowledge - and therefore the certainty - to advocate for anything as strongly as I did then. I've given my reasoning for JFG, but I don't have any overarching theories. If JFG's not Mafia, trying to connect him to other people would just throw off the town, since those ideas would obviously be based on a false premise.
Few reasons. First-I'm going with my first instinct. Each of the last 2 games I switched from a mafia (monie, rummy) that my gut told at first was a mafia and I was right. Second you keep claiming I never answered your questions. I did answer, it just wasn't to your complete satisfaction. You didn't mention Rothric who you asked the same ones, didn't answer at all. Twice I asked you what you wanted clarified, you didn't respond and are still trying to hold it on me. I think there is a very good chance both you and Jaz are mafia. Rummy mentioned you a bunch also. I am also going to vote alongside the 1 person I feel confident is town
Carini, that was the question you avoided that got me going on you: sfa mentioned he didn't want to move off of eap as he thought it'd help mafia. I knew sfa did not KNOW anything, but i was trying to point to eap in case I was the second whack.
And as for not addressing rothric, did you not see the multiple post back and forth we had where he shut me out?
My first nights guess was sfa. Bad luck that he was also the whack, and I considered the possibility, but if he stayed in the game, I had to know he was town or not.
My second nights guess was slack. He is town. I believe rummy's multiple mentions of eap at the end of d2 spared me the whack that night.
So if we assume rummy was town along with myself, slack and sfa, with eap as mafia that leaves:
Rothric Tainted Jaz Carini Jimmy Dragon
Jimmy put eap in two run offs as the last vote her I believe. Ballsy of jimmy if he is mafia - probably town. Eap also had her vote on jimmy in d1 final run off.
Tainted was taken out by a crew of: rothric, carini, slack, jfg, jaz. Slack and myself are town. Jaz moved to vote to Tainted to self preserve, so he gets a small break. Rothric and carini on Tainted from the jump with reluctance to say why. Eap on jaz for the old 2-1 split. Nothing solid, but enough to go on where in hindsight I think Tainted was more likely town.
Carini and rothric have both avoided questions that could point to eap. I asked rothric directly what he meant bringing her name up. Did anyone else see a change in his demeanor (in game) after that? They voted together on tainted and jaz, neither saying why they thought tainted was more suspicious of jaz d2, but jaz was good to vote for the very next day.
Of course, one of their only other options than jaz day 3 was eap. Cant vote for eap.
I'm about 50/50 on jaz, and i could easily see him being the third if I am wrong on either carini or rothric.
Dragon, who knows. That was a real boon for mafia, but it's hard for to believe they would spend a player so soon.
I'm conclusion, and by my best guesses, if you believe dragon was town, your mafia are eap and two of: rothric, carini, jaz.
If you believe dragon was mafia, your mafia are eap, dragon, and one of the three from: rothric, carini, jaz.
I really would have liked to get in another guess, but I knew I pushed it too far going after eap. Even if I wasnt in the run off they would have whacked me tonight. I was going to announce anyway so town can have the meager info I was able to collect, and where that info pointed, in my estimation.
Eap, shame on you for using school kids to excuse your mafia-ness! Kidding; I know everything is fair game, but woah.
Carini, that was the question you avoided that got me going on you: sfa mentioned he didn't want to move off of eap as he thought it'd help mafia. I knew sfa did not KNOW anything, but i was trying to point to eap in case I was the second whack.
And as for not addressing rothric, did you not see the multiple post back and forth we had where he shut me out?
My first nights guess was sfa. Bad luck that he was also the whack, and I considered the possibility, but if he stayed in the game, I had to know he was town or not.
My second nights guess was slack. He is town. I believe rummy's multiple mentions of eap at the end of d2 spared me the whack that night.
So if we assume rummy was town along with myself, slack and sfa, with eap as mafia that leaves:
Rothric Tainted Jaz Carini Jimmy Dragon
Jimmy put eap in two run offs as the last vote her I believe. Ballsy of jimmy if he is mafia - probably town. Eap also had her vote on jimmy in d1 final run off.
Tainted was taken out by a crew of: rothric, carini, slack, jfg, jaz. Slack and myself are town. Jaz moved to vote to Tainted to self preserve, so he gets a small break. Rothric and carini on Tainted from the jump with reluctance to say why. Eap on jaz for the old 2-1 split. Nothing solid, but enough to go on where in hindsight I think Tainted was more likely town.
Carini and rothric have both avoided questions that could point to eap. I asked rothric directly what he meant bringing her name up. Did anyone else see a change in his demeanor (in game) after that? They voted together on tainted and jaz, neither saying why they thought tainted was more suspicious of jaz d2, but jaz was good to vote for the very next day.
Of course, one of their only other options than jaz day 3 was eap. Cant vote for eap.
I'm about 50/50 on jaz, and i could easily see him being the third if I am wrong on either carini or rothric.
Dragon, who knows. That was a real boon for mafia, but it's hard for to believe they would spend a player so soon.
I'm conclusion, and by my best guesses, if you believe dragon was town, your mafia are eap and two of: rothric, carini, jaz.
If you believe dragon was mafia, your mafia are eap, dragon, and one of the three from: rothric, carini, jaz.
I really would have liked to get in another guess, but I knew I pushed it too far going after eap. Even if I wasnt in the run off they would have whacked me tonight. I was going to announce anyway so town can have the meager info I was able to collect, and where that info pointed, in my estimation.
Eap, shame on you for using school kids to excuse your mafia-ness! Kidding; I know everything is fair game, but woah.
Finally, we're getting somewhere.
My first reaction is to believe you, I thought you've been acting differently this game. But believing inspector claims too easily has bit me in the ass in the past. So going to go back and do a re-read with this info, and see what I think.
First question. What made you guess Slack for night 2?
I'll address your other points you brought up about me in just a bit. Have to take care of a bit of work quickly.
Carini, that was the question you avoided that got me going on you: sfa mentioned he didn't want to move off of eap as he thought it'd help mafia. I knew sfa did not KNOW anything, but i was trying to point to eap in case I was the second whack.
And as for not addressing rothric, did you not see the multiple post back and forth we had where he shut me out?
My first nights guess was sfa. Bad luck that he was also the whack, and I considered the possibility, but if he stayed in the game, I had to know he was town or not.
My second nights guess was slack. He is town. I believe rummy's multiple mentions of eap at the end of d2 spared me the whack that night.
So if we assume rummy was town along with myself, slack and sfa, with eap as mafia that leaves:
Rothric Tainted Jaz Carini Jimmy Dragon
Jimmy put eap in two run offs as the last vote her I believe. Ballsy of jimmy if he is mafia - probably town. Eap also had her vote on jimmy in d1 final run off.
Tainted was taken out by a crew of: rothric, carini, slack, jfg, jaz. Slack and myself are town. Jaz moved to vote to Tainted to self preserve, so he gets a small break. Rothric and carini on Tainted from the jump with reluctance to say why. Eap on jaz for the old 2-1 split. Nothing solid, but enough to go on where in hindsight I think Tainted was more likely town.
Carini and rothric have both avoided questions that could point to eap. I asked rothric directly what he meant bringing her name up. Did anyone else see a change in his demeanor (in game) after that? They voted together on tainted and jaz, neither saying why they thought tainted was more suspicious of jaz d2, but jaz was good to vote for the very next day.
Of course, one of their only other options than jaz day 3 was eap. Cant vote for eap.
I'm about 50/50 on jaz, and i could easily see him being the third if I am wrong on either carini or rothric.
Dragon, who knows. That was a real boon for mafia, but it's hard for to believe they would spend a player so soon.
I'm conclusion, and by my best guesses, if you believe dragon was town, your mafia are eap and two of: rothric, carini, jaz.
If you believe dragon was mafia, your mafia are eap, dragon, and one of the three from: rothric, carini, jaz.
I really would have liked to get in another guess, but I knew I pushed it too far going after eap. Even if I wasnt in the run off they would have whacked me tonight. I was going to announce anyway so town can have the meager info I was able to collect, and where that info pointed, in my estimation.
Eap, shame on you for using school kids to excuse your mafia-ness! Kidding; I know everything is fair game, but woah.
Finally, we're getting somewhere.
My first reaction is to believe you, I thought you've been acting differently this game. But believing inspector claims too easily has bit me in the ass in the past. So going to go back and do a re-read with this info, and see what I think.
First question. What made you guess Slack for night 2?
I'll address your other points you brought up about me in just a bit. Have to take care of a bit of work quickly.
As to slack for my second night guess, night one was going to be either sfa (to be sure with a vet) or slack - who is also a decent player. Slack spent a lot of time day one questioning and offering up theories, which is questionable d1 activity. He kinda rode drahon for putting eap in the d1 3-way run off. Then he went off the grid for most d2, which was a departure from his d1 play. He also said he could not vote for carini in the d2 3-way run off when he could. I could have him the benefit of the doubt that he meant without someone else moving it wouldn't matter, but I didn't. It was either slack or carini for night 2 guess, and picking sfa over slack night 1 was still raw. Probably influenced my choice.
