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Day Two 1. Thor >>> Mike D 2. LD >>> JR 3. Mike D >>> Carini 4. Carini >>> Mike D 5. ZIG >>> LD* 6. JR >>> Monky 7. LD >>> JR >>> ZIG 8. JR >>> Monky >>> LD 9. Jaz >>> Carini 10. Monky >>> Taint 11. Taint >>> Carini 12. Taint >>> Carini >>> null 13. Taint >>> Carini >>> null >>> ZIG
Day Two, Round Two
14. Monky >>> Carini 15. Jaz >>> Carini >>> null 16. LD >>> JR >>> ZIG >>> Mike D 17. Jaz >>> Carini >>> null >>> LD
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Ref Notes
The first runoff of Day Two has been extended until 10pm EDT on Monday, June 27. This tally is provided because it's part of the ref's description but also at least partially because LD is incapable of counting a whole two vote changes over the weekend and feels the need to call out a volunteer on this fact.
SFA actually never mentioned me direct. He said the group of quiet people Zig posted should be looked at and I was a member.
If I was mafia wouldn't one of my mates have given me a runoff of some kind a little sooner?
If you were/are mafia, why would your mafia mates put you in the runoff if you aren't in any danger of being in one? I don't really understand that question.
Not put me in runoff. Give me one as in push someone else up to 3 so I wouldn't be at risk of a straight vote out.
I'm suspect of both Mike D and Monky, but I don't think they're Mafia together because they're both on Carini right now. I'd think the Mafia would spread their votes out more. This, coupled with the fact that it seems like the Mafia was comfortable letting Carini be voted off, makes me less suspicious of Carini. However, a Carinia-Mafia could have been relying on the town to not let someone get voted straight off, in which case that move was well played. But for now my suspicions are lessened.
LD is also pretty high up on my list, so let's send the man forward.
Jaz > LD
*Sigh*
Look, what's done is done. I got distracted by Zig's accusations and wanted to go to war in retaliation. (I listen to entirely too much gangsta rap.) But I'm gonna be serious now, and help the town to the best of my abilities. We know there's at least two Mafia out there, we know there's suspicious people in this runoff. We need to get them talking and try to take one out. Everyone is afraid to talk, to switch votes - for fear of being labeled Mafia. I stuck myself out there, trying to do something, and am sure to be in another runoff.
I'll have to reread the game later, with a more open mind - rather than trying to tie Zig in, any chance possible.
Based on your post ranking your suspicions on the last page the 2 you have listed as likely mafia are both voting for me you should stick with your logic and not vote with them
Based on your post ranking your suspicions on the last page the 2 you have listed as likely mafia are both voting for me you should stick with your logic and not vote with them
That's why I'm trying to get some feedback, see if anyone sees benefit in it
Based on your post ranking your suspicions on the last page the 2 you have listed as likely mafia are both voting for me you should stick with your logic and not vote with them
That's why I'm trying to get some feedback, see if anyone sees benefit in it
Are you actually suspicious of Carini, or just trying to get a three person runoff?
Looks like Monky is the likely swing vote in this one. Considering Mike and Monky have often been lumped together as suspicious due to being fairly silent - it'll be interesting to see whether or not Monky backs Mike against me.
I corrected my vote immediately after realizing it was going to vote him outright. I am looking for longer runoffs, as I feel there is more potential to slip when there is more conversation. I'd venture to guess a statistical review of the last ten games would prove this to be valid more often than not.
I'm going to disagree with you on this point. I'd venture not. Not at least in the past 10 games. It's an underestimation of the people who are playing mafia to assume they will take a lazy course of action like staying silent and (when not voting for the suspected inspector) whack a person who randomly voted for one of them without any reason. Whack someone who wanted to lynch a townie, create maximum confusion among the town, get people to point fingers at each other.
As for LD, I am actually highly suspect of Monky - LD threw Monky under the bus on day 1 with is theory from the past game. It doesn't click after that, they don't seem to gel. I could be completely going in the wrong direction, and straw man is always a possibility, but it is what I've observed.
I did a read thru last night while watching watching some to. I jotted down some items but it was late so I didn't get around to posting them. I will be doing another read thru this morning and making some additional posts about things I see or questions I have.
The setting - Minneapolis-St Paul International Airport
We are gathered here to get through this thing called Mafia. Dangerous word, mafia, they are bad guys, I mean very bad, but here to tell you something else - you can beat them! Ferret them out by reading their lies and their bullshit. You'll make it to a place where you can always see the sun - day or night!
I just realized, why were you at the MSP airport? I live 10 minutes from there...
The setting - Minneapolis-St Paul International Airport
We are gathered here to get through this thing called Mafia. Dangerous word, mafia, they are bad guys, I mean very bad, but here to tell you something else - you can beat them! Ferret them out by reading their lies and their bullshit. You'll make it to a place where you can always see the sun - day or night!
I just realized, why were you at the MSP airport? I live 10 minutes from there...
I wasn't...the game is.
I'll be there on July 26 though, through August 1, visiting one of my best friends. I love Minneapolis.
I still hold that the flow of the game points to Zig being the least suspicious but if we are going to have another runoff this one has a lot more potential than essentially letting Monky decide. That's especially true early on when we have so little to go off of.
I normally don't like discussing the inspector, but since SFA was fairly quiet before his death, and I've been trying to think about SFA either being town or inspector, this is the only SFA post that stuck out to me. IMO if SFA was Inspector, then Monky could be his given name based on this post.
On mobile so I can't quote, but to go back to my theory of grouping people:
Since we know SFA was town, I know that either we had all mafia in the initial day one runoff, or that there is at least one mafia out of Thor /carini /ld /taint. The latter situation is much more likely in my opinion. I don't feel great about Mike D based on his gameplay, but given how the votes have shaken out, I feel more comfortable voting alongside jr and zig than I do the other group.
I'll expand upon this more when I'm not on mobile but I've gotta get back to work. Figured I'd start here though in case anyone wants to piggyback off of it and also to maintain my train of thought when I get on break.
I thought these posts were interesting. I don't think anyone would consider me light on talking but both Taint and LD thought so during my final runoff with Rummy...
while I have personally grown to appreciate Zig's stat hungry first round evaluations, I have to feel like it's been a little too light this round. I don't actually have a reason to be on Rummy any more than Zig, and I don't think anyone else does either. The same can be said for Zig. This seems like a preference runoff, not a good sign for townies. There have been some fairly fuzzy moves early on this game that will surely unravel the yarn later on, but for now let's not forget it's day 1.
I had given her the benefit of the doubt cause she went to Asheville, but then again we seen people recently (cough Bacon cough) hide behind vacation status as quiet Mafia.
She hadn't done anything to me that seemed suspect, enough to warrant ever being in a runoff in the first place. I don't know if Zig is Mafia, but he seems quieter with theories, was in that vote triangle with very quiet Monky and Mike D, and was in last four voters which normally he tries to avoid.
I'm in the belief that this was one of the less beneficial day 1s. While rummy could very well have been mafia, there were a few that dodged the bullet- myself included. I have been especially silent, in honor of attempting a different players failed tactic in order to see if I may draw similar heat. It hasn't yet occured, making me feel like mafia is pushing a false narrative in a different direction or remaining incredibly uninvolved. Will read through later.
I still don't know what the fuck you are talking about in this post...
The mafia kill seems to point at myself, Zig and JR because SFA was more vocal about us seeing how we were in the runoff. He also cautioned about having the same group in the runoff round after round and I do share his opinion on this, I have seen way too many games where the same folks were in there round after round which leads to an easy mafia win. Considering SFA agreed with and elaborated on Zig's post of the quiet three that's where I am going to start this round, the two he mentioned (besides me) were Carini and Taint. In my opinion we should have a runoff with one of them, one of me/zig/JR and one other person that hasn't been mentioned much or voted for Jaz/Thor/LD.
Something doesn't sit right with me about SFA's post wanting to vote JR, but not doing so because he thinks more discussion will happen with Zig/Rummy. I wouldn't be opposed to seeing JR in there again this round against some other folks that weren't in there last round, but wel see where the rest of the votes fall this round. For now I am going to take a shot at one of the others SFA elaborated on from Zig's post
Mike D >> Carini
so you voted at the start of Day based on my "quiet 3" theory. The options were You (Mike D) or Carini or Taint.
And these Day 2 post counts include a ton of non-game related chatter that looks like post padding.
So, If you are town and not contributing to this game, shame on you. What's the purpose of playing if you don't contribute.
I am not contributing enough as town, I concur. I also appreciate that you have contributed so many different theories and talking points. While I don't have a concrete theory to base it around, the most logical thought to me is that Mike D is in fact Mafia, as is Monkybunney. I will take time to pick posts to contribute to this theory of mine later on, but as for now it seems like this to me:
Possibly town: Zig Carini LD
Town me
Mafia likely Mike D Monkybunney
no read / not enough of an inspection JR Thor
I don't lean one way or the other as to Rummys innocence, I can't tell if we got lucky or not but the idea that mafia thought SFA was inspector based on a previous games tactic is not entirely logical. People go out of their way to change their plan of approach, I've personally lamented my approach to inspector each time I've been it (twice I think)
Mike D is silent beyond comparison, and to me that spells the mafia silence. I'm available to talk, I'm here to discuss theories, and I'm done apologizing for not being involved enough. Zig you're right, shame on me, now help me unravel the ball.
I found this post interesting. It seems you left Jaz out of your list...
I know the round isn't over yet but I guess yall were right about the Mafia targeting myself and SFA 
