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Also, I think the loser of the Georgia Bama game will be out. The “they had their chance” takes will be overwhelming. Especially if it’s Georgia.
Georgia's win over ND is this years OSU win over OU, right now, it's the best win of any team in CFB. If ND wins out, and Bama wins a close SECCG over Georgia, how do you keep out Georgia since they beat ND?
Still think they’re out. Recency bias and all. Plus the pressure to include other P5 champs, whether it’s explicit or not, will be enormous.
Georgia's win over ND is this years OSU win over OU, right now, it's the best win of any team in CFB. If ND wins out, and Bama wins a close SECCG over Georgia, how do you keep out Georgia since they beat ND?
Still think they’re out. Recency bias and all. Plus the pressure to include other P5 champs, whether it’s explicit or not, will be enormous.
They're supposed to pick the top 4 teams. I hate it but if it that means 2 teams from the same conference, then so be it.
Post by Delicious Meatball Sub on Nov 1, 2017 13:58:13 GMT -5
What’s supposed to happen and what actually will happen are two different things.
And on the “no one is jumping ‘us’” baloney, OU and OSU both have significantly more impressive potential wins left on their schedule so I have no idea how you can say that with any confidence.
What’s supposed to happen and what actually will happen are two different things.
And on the “no one is jumping ‘us’” baloney, OU and OSU both have significantly more impressive potential wins left on their schedule so I have no idea how you can say that with any confidence.
We would have another top 20 win over NC St and either VT again or Miami. Add that to Auburn and VT.
yup, top 4 teams at the end of last year were Bama, Clemson, Penn State, and USC (IMO).
They have to balance who's playing well now with resume.
That may be true. But in this case Uga and Bama would still be deserving. One of them losing that game wouldn't change that.
A lot of it is going to come down to win quality. If they both go in undefeated, the odds of the loser making it in the top four is effected greatly by the margin. Alabama wins by one, Georgia has a good case to get in. Alabama wins by forty, not so much.
That may be true. But in this case Uga and Bama would still be deserving. One of them losing that game wouldn't change that.
A lot of it is going to come down to win quality. If they both go in undefeated, the odds of the loser making it in the top four is effected greatly by the margin. Alabama wins by one, Georgia has a good case to get in. Alabama wins by forty, not so much.
everyone is assuming this is a problem for Georgia, Bama is the one that hasn't played anyone yet. IMO It's easier for UGA to lose the SECCG and still get in than it will be for Bama to lose and still get in (assuming both go undefeated up until then). That FSU win looked good for about a week, and App st, ND, Samford, GT >>>> FSU, Fresno St, CSU, Mercer
A lot of it is going to come down to win quality. If they both go in undefeated, the odds of the loser making it in the top four is effected greatly by the margin. Alabama wins by one, Georgia has a good case to get in. Alabama wins by forty, not so much.
everyone is assuming this is a problem for Georgia, Bama is the one that hasn't played anyone yet. IMO It's easier for UGA to lose the SECCG and still get in than it will be for Bama to lose and still get in (assuming both go undefeated up until then). That FSU win looked good for about a week, and App st, ND, Samford, GT >>>> FSU, Fresno St, CSU, Mercer
Name recognition plays a lot into perception. Alabama has been #1 because they're Alabama. It'll be the same until Saban retires or falls off noticeably.
A lot of it is going to come down to win quality. If they both go in undefeated, the odds of the loser making it in the top four is effected greatly by the margin. Alabama wins by one, Georgia has a good case to get in. Alabama wins by forty, not so much.
everyone is assuming this is a problem for Georgia, Bama is the one that hasn't played anyone yet. IMO It's easier for UGA to lose the SECCG and still get in than it will be for Bama to lose and still get in (assuming both go undefeated up until then). That FSU win looked good for about a week, and App st, ND, Samford, GT >>>> FSU, Fresno St, CSU, Mercer
I agree with this. Alabama has the whole "we're Bama and we are always in the national title game" persona, but Georgia will have the resume. Especially if ND wins out.
everyone is assuming this is a problem for Georgia, Bama is the one that hasn't played anyone yet. IMO It's easier for UGA to lose the SECCG and still get in than it will be for Bama to lose and still get in (assuming both go undefeated up until then). That FSU win looked good for about a week, and App st, ND, Samford, GT >>>> FSU, Fresno St, CSU, Mercer
Name recognition plays a lot into perception. Alabama has been #1 because they're Alabama. It'll be the same until Saban retires or falls off noticeably.
But Bama isn't #1. They weren't the first time we played them either. We were #1 the whole time. They're starting to get caught up with a little bit.
Name recognition plays a lot into perception. Alabama has been #1 because they're Alabama. It'll be the same until Saban retires or falls off noticeably.
But Bama isn't #1. They weren't the first time we played them either. We were #1 the whole time. They're starting to get caught up with a little bit.
Alabama has been #1 in both the AP and Coaches poll all season. The CFP rankings is the first time they haven't been in the top slot all year and surprised people greatly.
But Bama isn't #1. They weren't the first time we played them either. We were #1 the whole time. They're starting to get caught up with a little bit.
Alabama has been #1 in both the AP and Coaches poll all season. The CFP rankings is the first time they haven't been in the top slot all year and surprised people greatly.
I thought it might be coming. Uga has done more, I just wasn't sure if the committee was going to recognize it.
Alabama has been #1 in both the AP and Coaches poll all season. The CFP rankings is the first time they haven't been in the top slot all year and surprised people greatly.
I thought it might be coming. Uga has done more, I just wasn't sure if the committee was going to recognize it.
And that's what I am speaking to. Alabama gets ranked high because of who they are. I feel like they would be looked on more favorably as just getting caught versus Georgia whereas Georgia would be viewed as being beat by a superior team. Not saying it's accurate. Just the way I think it would go down.
I thought it might be coming. Uga has done more, I just wasn't sure if the committee was going to recognize it.
And that's what I am speaking to. Alabama gets ranked high because of who they are. I feel like they would be looked on more favorably as just getting caught versus Georgia whereas Georgia would be viewed as being beat by a superior team. Not saying it's accurate. Just the way I think it would go down.
Well yea, I think Bama will be at least a 10 pt favorite. But I mean in the eyes of the committee, they don't seem to take that into account. I was sure we were going to be behind Ohio St, because they're Ohio St. But now I'm just really realizing, Clemson is getting that kind of force behind them, because they're Clemson.
Post by SupeЯfuЯЯyanimal on Nov 1, 2017 15:16:07 GMT -5
It's weird. I don't want UGA to win as much as I want the rest of them to fail.
Also, as someone that's watched the Bulldogs my whole life there's no point focusing on the Bama game. No matter the year the Auburn and Tech games are a toss up.
It's weird. I don't want UGA to win as much as I want the rest of them to fail.
It's such an amazing 4, especially for this area. Georgia and Clemson have that old rivalry. Everyone is tired of Bama winning all the time and everyone hates ND. Also a complete nightmare for GT fans (if there are any?)
It's weird. I don't want UGA to win as much as I want the rest of them to fail.
Also, as someone that's watched the Bulldogs my whole life there's no point focusing on the Bama game. No matter the year the Auburn and Tech games are a toss up.
This is always the best thing to remember at this point. We can run all the scenarios for teams coming in undefeated or not losing anymore, but we all know some of them are going to lose regardless of whether they should or not.
It's weird. I don't want UGA to win as much as I want the rest of them to fail.
Also, as someone that's watched the Bulldogs my whole life there's no point focusing on the Bama game. No matter the year the Auburn and Tech games are a toss up.
This is always the best thing to remember at this point. We can run all the scenarios for teams coming in undefeated or not losing anymore, but we all know some of them are going to lose regardless of whether they should or not.
I think Auburn has a chance, that will be a tough game, but GT has no chance.
Not really. If anyone beats them I'd rather it be Auburn or Uga or Clemson again. I kinda want this top 4 to stay exactly where it is. I'd love to play Uga, if it was in the championship game that would be the ultimate.
Not really. If anyone beats them I'd rather it be Auburn or Uga or Clemson again.
IF (not gonna happen) LSU were to beat Bama, they'd have the best chance of keeping them out of the CFP, based on LSU having the easiest remaining SEC schedule for SEC West teams fighting for ATL.
Not really. If anyone beats them I'd rather it be Auburn or Uga or Clemson again.
IF (not gonna happen) LSU were to beat Bama, they'd have the best chance of keeping them out of the CFP, based on LSU having the easiest remaining SEC schedule for SEC West teams fighting for ATL.
Yea, but I don't like LSU either. Plus I wouldn't trust them not to lose to A&M after beating Bama.
IF (not gonna happen) LSU were to beat Bama, they'd have the best chance of keeping them out of the CFP, based on LSU having the easiest remaining SEC schedule for SEC West teams fighting for ATL.
Yea, but I don't like LSU either. Plus I wouldn't trust them not to lose to A&M after beating Bama.
That's a good point, but it'd probably be Tennessee because it would make no sense.
another reason I think the loser of the SECCG is out esp if it's Bama, a 1-4 rematch between Georgia and Bama in the playoffs would be horrendous.
They'd just drop them to 3.
Bama's best win would be 8-4 Auburn, no conference title, and just losing...If there's a 1 loss ACC/B1G(OSU)/big12 Champ, they'll all have better resumes than Bama.
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