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Fuck festivals, long live separate concerts all summer long!
Festivals have their advantages. Going to a local festival is a far more cost-effective way to see a large number of acts, particularly those that you like, but wouldn't drop $30 - $130 to see on a 2-3 act show.
Music festivals are like buffets. Not necessarily the best way to enjoy your favorite menu selections, but you end up trying things you'd never order off the menu and might find something you really like.
Fuck festivals, long live separate concerts all summer long!
Festivals have their advantages. Going to a local festival is a far more cost-effective way to see a large number of acts, particularly those that you like, but wouldn't drop $30 - $130 to see on a 2-3 act show.
Music festivals are like buffets. Not necessarily the best way to enjoy your favorite menu selections, but you end up trying things you'd never order off the menu and might find something you really like.
I think we've had this discussion before. You're not wrong, but all the buffets have gotten stale this year.
This is definitely my most anticipated festival this summer. Can’t stop thinking about visiting Boston for the first time. When does the schedule usually come out for this?
This is definitely my most anticipated festival this summer. Can’t stop thinking about visiting Boston for the first time. When does the schedule usually come out for this
It came out may 11th last year but they released the by day lineup 2 months earlier than last year so we may get it even earlier.
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Radiohead announced two shows at TD Garden in July, the 28th and 29th. Guess that makes up for them not playing BC.
They threw a real curveball to mobile luddites like myself who don't carry a mobile device.
I attempted to buy a ticket to one of the shows online, but they're only doing a mobile barcode for online orders -- no mailed tickets or print from home option.
I suspect that this is meant to foil scalpers, but it also foils anyone who doesn't carry a smartphone.
Since neither show has sold out, I suspect that at some point between now and the show dates that they'll, at the very least, sell paper tickets at the box office. The availability of regularly priced tickets foils scalpers wonderfully, and I can't see venue/promoter/band wanting empty seats which could be otherwise sold.
Radiohead announced two shows at TD Garden in July, the 28th and 29th. Guess that makes up for them not playing BC.
They threw a real curveball to mobile luddites like myself who don't carry a mobile device.
I attempted to buy a ticket to one of the shows online, but they're only doing a mobile barcode for online orders -- no mailed tickets or print from home option.
I suspect that this is meant to foil scalpers, but it also foils anyone who doesn't carry a smartphone.
Since neither show has sold out, I suspect that at some point between now and the show dates that they'll, at the very least, sell paper tickets at the box office. The availability of regularly priced tickets foils scalpers wonderfully, and I can't see venue/promoter/band wanting empty seats which could be otherwise sold.
This is a really great point and something I did not think about. Thanks for pointing it out. Sorry you couldn't get tickets at first, but you're probably right about the later release of certain tickets. There's still a decent amount of single tickets left (albeit back of the balcony seats).
Post by thevagabond on Feb 23, 2018 15:47:33 GMT -5
Interesting that the stubhub market for the boston shows clearly crashed after the scalpers found out about the delivery system. Cheapest ones on there right now are 95 before fees. Couple of hours ago they were in the 200s.
EDIT: as much as we might complain about this entire paperless process it does ultimately cut down scalping.
They threw a real curveball to mobile luddites like myself who don't carry a mobile device.
I attempted to buy a ticket to one of the shows online, but they're only doing a mobile barcode for online orders -- no mailed tickets or print from home option.
I suspect that this is meant to foil scalpers, but it also foils anyone who doesn't carry a smartphone.
Since neither show has sold out, I suspect that at some point between now and the show dates that they'll, at the very least, sell paper tickets at the box office. The availability of regularly priced tickets foils scalpers wonderfully, and I can't see venue/promoter/band wanting empty seats which could be otherwise sold.
This is a really great point and something I did not think about. Thanks for pointing it out. Sorry you couldn't get tickets at first, but you're probably right about the later release of certain tickets. There's still a decent amount of single tickets left (albeit back of the balcony seats).
That's the case for Saturday night, but there are a lot of balcony seats left for Sunday night, not just single seats.
Still, if all that's left is balcony, they probably will sell out or come darn close to it before the need will arise to find alternate means to selling the remaining seats.
I do understand that the vast majority of people these days have smartphones, but this is the first instance I've seen where something generally accessible in the marketplace is completely limited to phone owners. If you can't take Uber/Lyft, you can take a cab. If you can't take advantage of Moviepass "all you can view" for $10 per month, you can still pay full price at the movie theater. But the only way to see Radiohead on this tour is to have a mobile phone.
This is a really great point and something I did not think about. Thanks for pointing it out. Sorry you couldn't get tickets at first, but you're probably right about the later release of certain tickets. There's still a decent amount of single tickets left (albeit back of the balcony seats).
That's the case for Saturday night, but there are a lot of balcony seats left for Sunday night, not just single seats.
Still, if all that's left is balcony, they probably will sell out or come darn close to it before the need will arise to find alternate means to selling the remaining seats.
I do understand that the vast majority of people these days have smartphones, but this is the first instance I've seen where something generally accessible in the marketplace is completely limited to phone owners. If you can't take Uber/Lyft, you can take a cab. If you can't take advantage of Moviepass "all you can view" for $10 per month, you can still pay full price at the movie theater. But the only way to see Radiohead on this tour is to have a mobile phone.
I should walk up to the gates at one of the shows carrying a landline phone and ask the ticket-scanner how to find my ticket on it.
This is a really great point and something I did not think about. Thanks for pointing it out. Sorry you couldn't get tickets at first, but you're probably right about the later release of certain tickets. There's still a decent amount of single tickets left (albeit back of the balcony seats).
That's the case for Saturday night, but there are a lot of balcony seats left for Sunday night, not just single seats.
Still, if all that's left is balcony, they probably will sell out or come darn close to it before the need will arise to find alternate means to selling the remaining seats.
I do understand that the vast majority of people these days have smartphones, but this is the first instance I've seen where something generally accessible in the marketplace is completely limited to phone owners. If you can't take Uber/Lyft, you can take a cab. If you can't take advantage of Moviepass "all you can view" for $10 per month, you can still pay full price at the movie theater. But the only way to see Radiohead on this tour is to have a mobile phone.
Presale ticketholders get to do will call in lieu of mobile phone tickets.
That's the case for Saturday night, but there are a lot of balcony seats left for Sunday night, not just single seats.
Still, if all that's left is balcony, they probably will sell out or come darn close to it before the need will arise to find alternate means to selling the remaining seats.
I do understand that the vast majority of people these days have smartphones, but this is the first instance I've seen where something generally accessible in the marketplace is completely limited to phone owners. If you can't take Uber/Lyft, you can take a cab. If you can't take advantage of Moviepass "all you can view" for $10 per month, you can still pay full price at the movie theater. But the only way to see Radiohead on this tour is to have a mobile phone.
Presale ticketholders get to do will call in lieu of mobile phone tickets.
Eh, had I known this, I would have signed up for their mailing list ahead of time and been privy to fan presale codes.
What unique about this, from both a technological and an economic standpoint, is that these are the first instances we've seen where the general public can only access a particular type of product or service with a mobile device (with the obvious exception of those services inherent to mobile service, like making calls and texting.)
I may not be able to use Lyft/Uber without a mobile device, but I can take a taxi. I can't take advantage of Moviepass' "one movie per day for $10 per month," deal, but I can walk into any movie theater and pay full price and see the same movie. But this new type of paperless ticketing -- previously accomplished by running your credit/debit card through a reader at the gate, like the last time I saw Springsteen at the Garden -- is the very first example of a product or service not directly related to mobile device use for which a mobile device is required.
I may be personally disadvantaged by this, but it's really a fascinating development.
I can't see Boston Calling or other festivals following suit, because eliminating wrist bands would make it easier for multiple people to get in with a single mobile ticket. You go at the beginning of the day, but aren't a fan of the headliner that day. So, you hand off your mobile device (maybe a cheap burner) to someone after you leave who then enters the gate as a "re-entry." Or you just share the electronic ticket with a friend who has it on their phone, too.
Paperless mobile ticketing can really only work for single entry and departure events.
(Honestly, I'd sign up for the damn service if I could get a good deal, but all of the deals I see advertised are for multiple lines. Two lines for $50 per month for people over 50, four lines for a hundred, etc., but no equivalent deals for individual lines. I already pay close to $100 per month for a landline, which I need since I work from home for an out-of-state software company, and I'm not going to invest hundreds in a phone with a screen big enough for me to work with -- I literally couldn't use the tiny keyboard on the small phone I had in 2013 -- plus another $50 per month for service.)
What unique about this, from both a technological and an economic standpoint, is that these are the first instances we've seen where the general public can only access a particular type of product or service with a mobile device (with the obvious exception of those services inherent to mobile service, like making calls and texting.)
I may not be able to use Lyft/Uber without a mobile device, but I can take a taxi. I can't take advantage of Moviepass' "one movie per day for $10 per month," deal, but I can walk into any movie theater and pay full price and see the same movie. But this new type of paperless ticketing -- previously accomplished by running your credit/debit card through a reader at the gate, like the last time I saw Springsteen at the Garden -- is the very first example of a product or service not directly related to mobile device use for which a mobile device is required.
I may be personally disadvantaged by this, but it's really a fascinating development.
I can't see Boston Calling or other festivals following suit, because eliminating wrist bands would make it easier for multiple people to get in with a single mobile ticket. You go at the beginning of the day, but aren't a fan of the headliner that day. So, you hand off your mobile device (maybe a cheap burner) to someone after you leave who then enters the gate as a "re-entry." Or you just share the electronic ticket with a friend who has it on their phone, too.
Paperless mobile ticketing can really only work for single entry and departure events.
(Honestly, I'd sign up for the damn service if I could get a good deal, but all of the deals I see advertised are for multiple lines. Two lines for $50 per month for people over 50, four lines for a hundred, etc., but no equivalent deals for individual lines. I already pay close to $100 per month for a landline, which I need since I work from home for an out-of-state software company, and I'm not going to invest hundreds in a phone with a screen big enough for me to work with -- I literally couldn't use the tiny keyboard on the small phone I had in 2013 -- plus another $50 per month for service.)
Net10, Straight Talk, and Boost have plans for $35, as well
My hubby hates cellphones but his job (he also work from home for an out of state IT company) requires him to have one, so I just had to research all of this.
Also $100 for a landline is very steep, are you barred from using a VoIP connection?
What unique about this, from both a technological and an economic standpoint, is that these are the first instances we've seen where the general public can only access a particular type of product or service with a mobile device (with the obvious exception of those services inherent to mobile service, like making calls and texting.)
I may not be able to use Lyft/Uber without a mobile device, but I can take a taxi. I can't take advantage of Moviepass' "one movie per day for $10 per month," deal, but I can walk into any movie theater and pay full price and see the same movie. But this new type of paperless ticketing -- previously accomplished by running your credit/debit card through a reader at the gate, like the last time I saw Springsteen at the Garden -- is the very first example of a product or service not directly related to mobile device use for which a mobile device is required.
I may be personally disadvantaged by this, but it's really a fascinating development.
I can't see Boston Calling or other festivals following suit, because eliminating wrist bands would make it easier for multiple people to get in with a single mobile ticket. You go at the beginning of the day, but aren't a fan of the headliner that day. So, you hand off your mobile device (maybe a cheap burner) to someone after you leave who then enters the gate as a "re-entry." Or you just share the electronic ticket with a friend who has it on their phone, too.
Paperless mobile ticketing can really only work for single entry and departure events.
(Honestly, I'd sign up for the damn service if I could get a good deal, but all of the deals I see advertised are for multiple lines. Two lines for $50 per month for people over 50, four lines for a hundred, etc., but no equivalent deals for individual lines. I already pay close to $100 per month for a landline, which I need since I work from home for an out-of-state software company, and I'm not going to invest hundreds in a phone with a screen big enough for me to work with -- I literally couldn't use the tiny keyboard on the small phone I had in 2013 -- plus another $50 per month for service.)
Net10, Straight Talk, and Boost have plans for $35, as well
My hubby hates cellphones but his job (he also work from home for an out of state IT company) requires him to have one, so I just had to research all of this.
Also $100 for a landline is very steep, are you barred from using a VoIP connection?
The hundred for the landline includes unlimited North American calling, and since my employers over the years haven't reimbursed for phone, that's a must. (I use VoiP with my current employer for some of what I do, but the wild wild west nature of software start-ups had led me to change jobs every year or two of late and many professional contacts have that number, so I'm not giving up my landline.)
I spend most of my days alone in my basement apartment home office working and playing on a laptop, so when I go out, I'd rather leave the door open for real human interaction than bury myself in yet another screen.
But if the mobile ticket ever becomes the standard, I guess I'll have to pick up a (used?) phone with a 5" screen, since I absolutely couldn't manipulate the keyboard on the smaller phone I had for a couple of months five years ago. (I was with MetroPCS and I'd never do business with them again. They literally do not have any customer service beyond billing inquiries. I had questions about how to use my phone, and the live and telephone customer service was atrocious.)
I'm thinking of joining AARP again (joined as soon as I turned 50, but was overwhelmed with the volume of snail mail they send...it's a lot), and they'll likely have some mobile service deals for their members.
Thanks for your advice, Katy Mae.
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Is it bad this festival is my only motivation to get through the semester? Way to excited for this.
The only thing that could possibly make me more excited is Arctic Monkeys playing a Boston show or headlining osheaga. I'm very worried about conflicts for BC though, saturday is extremely stacked. I feel like I'll have to chose between St Vincent and BH and tyler and qotsa and I hope I dont have to.
Is it bad this festival is my only motivation to get through the semester? Way to excited for this.
The only thing that could possibly make me more excited is Arctic Monkeys playing a Boston show or headlining osheaga. I'm very worried about conflicts for BC though, saturday is extremely stacked. I feel like I'll have to chose between St Vincent and BH and tyler and qotsa and I hope I dont have to.
Probably. Depends if they keep the same Blue Stage schedule as last year, but no matter what you won't be able to see all 4.
Would love to see them put Brockhampton on the Red and Royal Blood on the Blue but I doubt that'll be the case
Post by thisishappening on Mar 7, 2018 19:52:20 GMT -5
Seems to make sense they'd have different genres opposing each other. I have a flight the next day in NYC, but would really like to get in Saturday for St. Vincent and Royal Blood.
The only thing that could possibly make me more excited is Arctic Monkeys playing a Boston show or headlining osheaga. I'm very worried about conflicts for BC though, saturday is extremely stacked. I feel like I'll have to chose between St Vincent and BH and tyler and qotsa and I hope I dont have to.
Probably. Depends if they keep the same Blue Stage schedule as last year, but no matter what you won't be able to see all 4.
Would love to see them put Brockhampton on the Red and Royal Blood on the Blue but I doubt that'll be the case
Yeah it'd be cool if that ends up happening. I've seen all of them before but I'll probably prioritize Brockhampton and QOTSA.
Most of them didn't learn a key lesson from the Grateful Dead and Allman Brothers -- start with a well-written song and then grow your jam from that starting point.
Pod Save America is doing a show at the Wang Theater on the Thursday night before the festival. It's worth noting that the Madison Square Garden Company owns both Crash Line and the Wang Theater/Shubert Theater complex, so this functions as both a Boston Calling kickoff event and an alternative option for people who love the podcast, but wouldn't attend a music festival.
The even bigger implication is the possibility that Crash Line is getting into booking non-festival shows in the Boston area, at least at MSG-owned venues. This happens all of the time with LiveNation, AEG, Goldenvoice, Riot Fest, and others (C3?). First, you book the act at your festival, then you book their headlining show at a venue in the same market, profiting from the exposure you gave them at the festival.
