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My apologies, only have mobile access and couldn't sign in all day due to Samsung internet being a piece. This end time is appropriate to me, hail zolah
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Sept 4, 2017 21:08:43 GMT -5
Getting caught up here. I'm going to be honest. This is kind of a weird game so far for a first day. Mafia has all of the power to shape this run-off, and this is where it ended up, and it seems it happened by a few players really trying to influence things. Players who don't usually do that sort of shaping out the gate, knowing we are blind the first day. Those are the first red flags I see.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Sept 5, 2017 2:44:06 GMT -5
I'm going to even things up here.
There are three players who stick out most day 1 to me. SFA, LD and Maddog. One of them is in the run-off and seems to have posted some drunk nonsense and otherwise made a big spectacle of himself. And the other two have been making a huge deal of it, and basically pointing to him hard. Maddog may very well be Mafia trying to kick up dust and confuse the hell out of everyone, but he doesn't sound the same as he did when he was Mafia 2 games ago to me. Im getting a town vibe from him right now.
I'm also not really getting anything but a town vibe from Zolah, tbh. But, the two other players who have my interest are already voting for Maddog, and I don't feel comfortable voting with them. My guess is that we have two townies in here, as usual. With all of the talk for just a first round that went down to get us here, it makes me concerned that there was Mafia who slipped out of this one.
I'm going to even it up and see what JR has to say. I'm up for changing.
JR, did you work this weekend or something? I'm asking because you still haven't voted. I was at a music festival all weekend and just returned this evening. I haven't been able to post or read without a lot of effort. Players who are just quiet to be quiet when they could have been active concern me some. You were very quiet like this when we were Mafia together a few games back. And then more active last game as town. Just pointing this out for consideration as the game goes on.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
There are three players who stick out most day 1 to me. SFA, LD and Maddog. One of them is in the run-off and seems to have posted some drunk nonsense and otherwise made a big spectacle of himself. And the other two have been making a huge deal of it, and basically pointing to him hard. Maddog may very well be Mafia trying to kick up dust and confuse the hell out of everyone, but he doesn't sound the same as he did when he was Mafia 2 games ago to me. Im getting a town vibe from him right now.
I'm also not really getting anything but a town vibe from Zolah, tbh. But, the two other players who have my interest are already voting for Maddog, and I don't feel comfortable voting with them. My guess is that we have two townies in here, as usual. With all of the talk for just a first round that went down to get us here, it makes me concerned that there was Mafia who slipped out of this one.
I'm going to even it up and see what JR has to say. I'm up for changing.
JR, did you work this weekend or something? I'm asking because you still haven't voted. I was at a music festival all weekend and just returned this evening. I haven't been able to post or read without a lot of effort. Players who are just quiet to be quiet when they could have been active concern me some. You were very quiet like this when we were Mafia together a few games back. And then more active last game as town. Just pointing this out for consideration as the game goes on.
LLL>>>Zolah
I was last active Sunday night during D1R3. D1R4 started yesterday. Yesterday I was inactive.
I made an effort to actually get involved Friday or Saturday, but there wasn't much to get involved with. If you want to hammer someone for being online and not involved, look no further than Pablo. He was put on the "left to vote list" Friday evening. I called him out for having been online, but not having voted on Sunday night. He voted early Monday morning. 50+ hours waiting on a guy who was online, who didn't offer much of an explanation.
I agree that we're more likely looking at two townies. I wonder who is better to keep around for Day 2. Maddog, who seems to put every thought he has to the keyboard, or Zolah, who's more reserved, but no less intelligent.
There are three players who stick out most day 1 to me. SFA, LD and Maddog. One of them is in the run-off and seems to have posted some drunk nonsense and otherwise made a big spectacle of himself. And the other two have been making a huge deal of it, and basically pointing to him hard. Maddog may very well be Mafia trying to kick up dust and confuse the hell out of everyone, but he doesn't sound the same as he did when he was Mafia 2 games ago to me. Im getting a town vibe from him right now.
I'm also not really getting anything but a town vibe from Zolah, tbh. But, the two other players who have my interest are already voting for Maddog, and I don't feel comfortable voting with them. My guess is that we have two townies in here, as usual. With all of the talk for just a first round that went down to get us here, it makes me concerned that there was Mafia who slipped out of this one.
I'm going to even it up and see what JR has to say. I'm up for changing.
JR, did you work this weekend or something? I'm asking because you still haven't voted. I was at a music festival all weekend and just returned this evening. I haven't been able to post or read without a lot of effort. Players who are just quiet to be quiet when they could have been active concern me some. You were very quiet like this when we were Mafia together a few games back. And then more active last game as town. Just pointing this out for consideration as the game goes on.
LLL>>>Zolah
I was last active Sunday night during D1R3. D1R4 started yesterday. Yesterday I was inactive.
I made an effort to actually get involved Friday or Saturday, but there wasn't much to get involved with. If you want to hammer someone for being online and not involved, look no further than Pablo. He was put on the "left to vote list" Friday evening. I called him out for having been online, but not having voted on Sunday night. He voted early Monday morning. 50+ hours waiting on a guy who was online, who didn't offer much of an explanation.
I agree that we're more likely looking at two townies. I wonder who is better to keep around for Day 2. Maddog, who seems to put every thought he has to the keyboard, or Zolah, who's more reserved, but no less intelligent.
JR > Maddog
Fair enough. thank you for responding. I just have that bit of inside info about your playing difference since I was Mafia with you recently, so wasn't sure what was going on.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I was last active Sunday night during D1R3. D1R4 started yesterday. Yesterday I was inactive.
I made an effort to actually get involved Friday or Saturday, but there wasn't much to get involved with. If you want to hammer someone for being online and not involved, look no further than Pablo. He was put on the "left to vote list" Friday evening. I called him out for having been online, but not having voted on Sunday night. He voted early Monday morning. 50+ hours waiting on a guy who was online, who didn't offer much of an explanation.
I agree that we're more likely looking at two townies. I wonder who is better to keep around for Day 2. Maddog, who seems to put every thought he has to the keyboard, or Zolah, who's more reserved, but no less intelligent.
JR > Maddog
Fair enough. thank you for responding. I just have that bit of inside info about your playing difference since I was Mafia with you recently, so wasn't sure what was going on. [/quote] That only became a fact in recent games. I think my investment level went down after my inspector game.
I would like Maddog to stay in too. It seemed odd that he had a basis for his vote (being he wanted to stack the only one who started a stack), but it was sloppy as there were other options that fit his reasoning. Again though, I think we tend to attack the townies who mess up so I don't want laser vision going forward.
can confirm my posts were confused, i was drunk through most of my being stuck at home during flood. this is also my first day back at work in a week so I'll try to check in, but might not be too active until after i leave.
as far as potent, i agree with his vote change and the reasoning (maybe because it was more coherent than mine), so i'm a little reluctant to throw him to the wolves. i am not tied to jaz though so i can be persuaded to move. there's just not a lot to go off right now and i feel good about having a 4-way runoff with 3 free votes in the next round.
Looking over things again there are a few notable votes to me. Jaz > Maddog as the first stack, Zolah > LD by not putting a second in the runoff after the first stack, and then Potents move.
Jaz being the first to stack makes me ok with keeping my vote on him for now. as for who I'd move my vote to out of LD and Zolah, LD was pretty quick to want Potent in a runoff after being voted for. Could have been town being defensive or it could have been a panic move. He also made a weird statement about only caring about Zolah if she's inspector so I don't know how that should make me feel about her.
As far as Zolah stacking/not stacking. I understand someone has to stack, but the order in how people stack is important and not something to just throw away. Before Zolah's vote, I was stacked and there were 5 other one vote players. Rather than stacking on another player she adds another one vote player. That left Potent , LD, and I to shape the runoff, with me obviously not voting for myself.
Not saying that it's something we need to all dig into, but keeping track of who/when stack is important imo.
if I drop out - Jaz in runoff with vote - if Zolah drops - LD in runoff with vote if LD drops - Zolah in runoff with vote if Jaz drops - no one in runoff gets free vote
since we aren't really going off of much in the first two rounds, I think more information can be gained from two free votes than one. from what I'm reading from the comments, pablo, jr, and I aren't very locked into jaz. JR's was a seemingly random vote, pablo's was in an attempt to get a leg up on mafia shaping the round, and mine was misguided to say the least.
I would like to see where JR/Pablo move (knowing I'm kind of targeting myself by shaking things up) rather than see people in the runoff get their votes back, especially since none of the Jaz voters seem to be locked on him.
I have computer access for an hour and then will most likely be MIA until tomorrow.
Maddog you seem to be pointing in all different directions. Pointing at (and voting for) me for stacking, as well as at Zolah for not stacking. Maybe you've got your guard up about me because you were the person I ended up voting for, but I don't see why me stacking warrants your vote. I know I get naturally defensive when people vote for me for no reason - is the same true for you?
Not really too much else to say atm from what I can tell.
I have generally wanted to have someone who stacks be in the runoff as well, I've done that every game. I felt like I tried to explain I was not locked into my vote by any means. I picked you over the other stackers in part because there was no tally and I mis read the votes.
As for my pointing, was more trying to keep tabs on the movements, and less the justifications behind them. Potent made the only real move, so it was more a look into the timing/order of votes.
as far as me taking note of who doesn't stack, since that has come up again, it's important? aside from last game in which 2 of 3 mafia stacked the 3rd (which I thought was ridiculous) most of the time's I've played there isn't a lot of mafia stacking in the early rounds of D1.
I don't want this whole game to be extended, is there anyone else who feels an extension into the weekend and or Monday is necessary?
i just did it since I thought we were getting close to the deadline. I'm fine with it extending like an hour or so if anyone wants to chime in on my switch.
there are also like 8 players who haven't indicated whether they need/want more time since my vote switch. i requested it in the scenario that me typing up my justification for the switch went past the deadline, as opposed to making a switch without any reasoning just to beat the deadline.
Don't switches within however much time before the deadline trigger an automatic extension? I'm unclear on the exact timeline, because Maddog's posts just say "about an hour ago", but an extension seems pretty reasonable to me in either case.
yeah I was pretty sure that was the case, but didn't see that in the rules of this game, just what zolah posted above. I just felt like if I made the move, and then got a phone call that lasted a while or something it would cause way more of an uproar, so I requested.
I seen it as the complete opposite - Maddog acting wild and trying to dictate terms of the runoff is a Mafia move trying to control the game
The argument might have been better made by someone that wasn't in the runoff.
I feel like everyone should be looking at both angles of the moves (cue littlefinger meme), but didn't you also make a stack by mistake and try to shape a runoff while in a runoff?
I feel like everyone should be looking at both angles of the moves (cue littlefinger meme), but didn't you also make a stack by mistake and try to shape a runoff while in a runoff?
jr and pablo both made statements regarding how they didn't necessarily find Jaz very suspicious. my initial vote on him got some rumbles, but mainly on how poorly it was presented, and I didn't feel like anyone was covering for him. i made the mistake of coming off of mafia in round 1 last game, and maybe I could be doing that again, but i feel safe coming off of him for now.
the only reason I am switching to zolah over LD is so that one of myself, LD, Jaz, or her get their votes back either way.
in a vacuum maybe I'd rather put in LD because of his justification for putting Potent in the RO, but I don't want anyone getting their vote back who's in the RO, myself included.
jr and pablo both made statements regarding how they didn't necessarily find Jaz very suspicious. my initial vote on him got some rumbles, but mainly on how poorly it was presented, and I didn't feel like anyone was covering for him. i made the mistake of coming off of mafia in round 1 last game, and maybe I could be doing that again, but i feel safe coming off of him for now.
the only reason I am switching to zolah over LD is so that one of myself, LD, Jaz, or her get their votes back either way.
in a vacuum maybe I'd rather put in LD because of his justification for putting Potent in the RO, but I don't want anyone getting their vote back who's in the RO, myself included.
is so that one of MD, LD, Jaz, or Z don't* get their vote back
Read over some things. Another thing of interest. Out of all of Maddog's talk of not freeing votes of the people in the runoff. He's ended up voting in a way that benefits him the most. The conventional thinking* being "It makes more sense to vote for Zolah in this situation because if I vote Maddog it only gives us info from 1 voter instead of 3."
Looking back this has been brought up several times this game. By Potent and Pablo. I know I've used this argument for my early votes a good bit too in the past.
What if the weird extension/last minute minute switch is because maddog saw an opportunity to up his chance of escaping the runoff?
Everyone makes self beneficial moves, especially earlier before people's opinions are really set in. But I'm fine with LD dropping out over zolah since we get more than just Carini as executioner.
So you're admitting you did it on purpose. Cause switching up a runoff in the last minute so it benefits you and voting for self-preservation when you have no other options aren't the same thing. Not everyone goes to that length.
It also seems fairly contradictory to all your talk of wanting to get the most information. You didn't just try to save yourself. You took another player out of runoff contention and threw another one in... based on some very flimsy reasoning too.
I feel like all of LD's votes and discussion have been in self preservation mode tbh. I'm not "admitting" anything, I'm saying everyone does it and that shouldn't be something you harp on since all it does is make it easier for mafia to play the martyr. In recent games townies have been lynched day one over dumb things (and as inspector and mafia in the two most recent games I feel confident in saying that) so I feel like because I made a mistake in the order of who was stacked, I'm being lynched and everyone is off track.
I feel like I don't need to keep explaining I moved for more open votes, that was something that JR tried to peg me as mafia last game when I was inspector. I would rather have more people putting votes on different people than see the same people vote on the same people and vice versa. Such a mafia move.
as far as my switch/extension, SFA and Pablo both made their votes based on getting ahead of mafia so that mafia couldn't force their vote. At that time we had Jaz, LD, and I as the runoff. With it seeming like SFA and Pablo both didn't want their vote to be in the runoff necessarily. LLL seemed to think LD was more suspicious than SFA to MD and Pablo to Jaz. I made my move so that LD wouldn't get his vote back. If I reallly wanted to self preserve I would have waited for Jaz to fall out and get my vote back. But I also know that Zolah votes for mafia members round one, and there was the weird thing about LD not caring about Zolah unless she's inspector, so why not just change my vote now and see if anyone comes to her defense.
I'm not trying to say I think that Zolah is mafia, I just think that at the time, out of her and Jaz I had more reason to switch. I probably would have rather seen LD/Me as the RO, but forcing Carini to make the final decision like that is a poor move, so I'm glad that Jaz made the move he did and bummed that LD is again forcing us to get less data.
If I was so intent on self preservation, I wouldn't have straight out the gate accused you of being suspicious and switched from Zolah to you as soon as the runoff ended. At this point, I'm probably going out tonight or tomorrow. Depends on how hot on someone's trail I got.
Well, other than yours.
you seem pretty sure you're getting whacked, but you waited until you were out of the runoff which is self preservation bud.
That's a mighty fine false equivalence, coupled with some deflection to change the topic. Again, no. You're changing the subject and trying to claim LD and you have somehow done the same thing. Everyone absolutely does not rearrange a runoff at the last moment because they see a future advantage for themselves. Voting for self preservation, sure. What you did was a step beyond that and you know it.
But I like your attempt to make this my problem. I shouldn't point out the weird things you do because SOMEHOW it automatically makes it easier for the "mafia to play the martyr." By that logic nobody should point out anything at all and we should just vote blindly. Because there's nothing weird at all about you taking Jaz out of the last runoff at the last minute and him then returning the favor to try to take you out of this one this morning. Jaz's move makes more sense. Yours could easily have been machinations under the guize of "more open votes."
I don't think wanting more votes is a mafia move but your attempts the control the game are. Your contradictions in explaining who you're voting for. You mudding the waters and making false equivalences also reek of an agenda.
Lds vote for Zolah was a mistake by his own admission. He tried to get potent thrown in the runoff for seemingly no reason. He's making it harder to get multiple votes out of people. Idk what's false equivalency about that.
That's a mighty fine false equivalence, coupled with some deflection to change the topic. Again, no. You're changing the subject and trying to claim LD and you have somehow done the same thing. Everyone absolutely does not rearrange a runoff at the last moment because they see a future advantage for themselves. Voting for self preservation, sure. What you did was a step beyond that and you know it.
But I like your attempt to make this my problem. I shouldn't point out the weird things you do because SOMEHOW it automatically makes it easier for the "mafia to play the martyr." By that logic nobody should point out anything at all and we should just vote blindly. Because there's nothing weird at all about you taking Jaz out of the last runoff at the last minute and him then returning the favor to try to take you out of this one this morning. Jaz's move makes more sense. Yours could easily have been machinations under the guize of "more open votes."
I don't think wanting more votes is a mafia move but your attempts the control the game are. Your contradictions in explaining who you're voting for. You mudding the waters and making false equivalences also reek of an agenda.
I just think there are a lot of tropes in the game from players who have been playing on this board for a while and from the games I've played mafia has been able to play off of them since it's something everyone seems to be in consensus with. Ex. Carini quiet equals mafia, mafia doesn't stack round one, moving to a five person runoff is a mafia move, whoever "saves" someone is mafia, quiet runoff means mafias happy, etc. One of which being the you can vote me off because I'm town yada yada martyr card. I didn't make my move to drop myself out of the runoff, I made it for more votes. And your "facepalm oh ld" compared to the 3rd degree I'm getting is a little much.
Too quiet, need to shake things up. I moved my vote from LLL to LD because I'm now voting with Zolah. She's currently in the runoff, so this prevents her from having a free vote, and it means that the 3 free votes are all people not in the runoff - LLL, SFA, Pablo. Of course this is pending any other vote switches, but that is my reasoning at this point in time.
which is less about shaping a runoff than these...
Makes no sense to kick someone (Zolah) out of a runoff if nobody is willing to join me putting someone else in.
That and if I move, do people think I'm saving Zolah? Cause that this point, I have no idea who anyone is. And I don't care about Zolah, unless she's the Inspector.
I also find it interesting that I've had my head on the block for requesting we speed things up and now again for requesting we slow things down. #mafiatropes.
If you had something to "reveal", why not ask for an extension real quick, instead of just fucking with us? I mean, I get that it sucks being lynched, but getting salty doesn't help the rest of the townies. My BS meter is going off.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Agreed. This is absolutely something the Mafia would say to fuck with us. It sews the seeds for disbelief in a future reveal. Sounds like total bullshit to me.
Hot dog! I just got back from grocery shopping. I have to go put stuff away, but wanted to check in. I almost hit send on this before I left, but I didn't want to leave to die in retaliation...
There are three players who stick out most day 1 to me. SFA, LD and Maddog. One of them is in the run-off and seems to have posted some drunk nonsense and otherwise made a big spectacle of himself. And the other two have been making a huge deal of it, and basically pointing to him hard. Maddog may very well be Mafia trying to kick up dust and confuse the hell out of everyone, but he doesn't sound the same as he did when he was Mafia 2 games ago to me. Im getting a town vibe from him right now.
I'm also not really getting anything but a town vibe from Zolah, tbh. But, the two other players who have my interest are already voting for Maddog, and I don't feel comfortable voting with them. My guess is that we have two townies in here, as usual. With all of the talk for just a first round that went down to get us here, it makes me concerned that there was Mafia who slipped out of this one.
I'm going to even it up and see what JR has to say. I'm up for changing.
JR, did you work this weekend or something? I'm asking because you still haven't voted. I was at a music festival all weekend and just returned this evening. I haven't been able to post or read without a lot of effort. Players who are just quiet to be quiet when they could have been active concern me some. You were very quiet like this when we were Mafia together a few games back. And then more active last game as town. Just pointing this out for consideration as the game goes on.
LLL>>>Zolah
I could have wrote exactly what you did. I thought all these things last night. Of course, I am on the chopping block and if I started saying names, boom. Bye bye Zolah. I felt it was odd that SFA was backing up LD so much. It was odd to me to be last second tossed into the runoff from Jaz/Maddog, but I am starting to wonder if those were townies grasping and it got used against them (I do agree that me being in was best for re-votes, but it would have made me less suspicious of them had it not been the last minute both times, with the same two falling out last minute). Immediately after LD fell out, LD voted Maddog and he and SFA went to town on him...
Anyway... I think if Maddog is indeed mafia (I'd lean that way, he was inspector before and this is nothing like when he was inspector, unless he's just a really salty lying townie)... JR would be cleared to me, because I know I am town.
If you had something to "reveal", why not ask for an extension real quick, instead of just fucking with us? I mean, I get that it sucks being lynched, but getting salty doesn't help the rest of the townies. My BS meter is going off.
If you had something to "reveal", why not ask for an extension real quick, instead of just fucking with us? I mean, I get that it sucks being lynched, but getting salty doesn't help the rest of the townies. My BS meter is going off.
Or, why not just reveal it.
You remember Maddog's reveal as well as I do I am sure. It's clear that he was taking notes the whole time he was inspector. I almost said TLDR last game. If he was indeed inspector, I would think he would have been keeping notes again, because he did great before.
If you had something to "reveal", why not ask for an extension real quick, instead of just fucking with us? I mean, I get that it sucks being lynched, but getting salty doesn't help the rest of the townies. My BS meter is going off.
Or, why not just reveal it.
Yeah I mainly just wanna hear who he claims is the given name. If he is inspector he's doing a lot worse than last game where he was on top of everything.
If you had something to "reveal", why not ask for an extension real quick, instead of just fucking with us? I mean, I get that it sucks being lynched, but getting salty doesn't help the rest of the townies. My BS meter is going off.
Or, why not just reveal it.
Exactly. Complete BS. It doesn't happen often that we end up getting Mafia first round. But it seems like this is totally one of those times.
So his posts that were all over the place really were probably mafia BS. Nice work SFA and LD on being able to put your finger on that.
And Jaz's vote switch now comes into question. Not that I don't get it, I wasn't getting a Mafia read on either Zolah or Maddog. But to actually switch off of Maddog onto Zolah in the midst of that run-off is questionable. Not saying Jaz is mafia, just something I am going to keep on my radar. Last game the names I had on my first round list were Pablo and Potent. This round it was SFA and LD because of how they were shaping the game. Can't win them all.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Hot dog! I just got back from grocery shopping. I have to go put stuff away, but wanted to check in. I almost hit send on this before I left, but I didn't want to leave to die in retaliation...
There are three players who stick out most day 1 to me. SFA, LD and Maddog. One of them is in the run-off and seems to have posted some drunk nonsense and otherwise made a big spectacle of himself. And the other two have been making a huge deal of it, and basically pointing to him hard. Maddog may very well be Mafia trying to kick up dust and confuse the hell out of everyone, but he doesn't sound the same as he did when he was Mafia 2 games ago to me. Im getting a town vibe from him right now.
I'm also not really getting anything but a town vibe from Zolah, tbh. But, the two other players who have my interest are already voting for Maddog, and I don't feel comfortable voting with them. My guess is that we have two townies in here, as usual. With all of the talk for just a first round that went down to get us here, it makes me concerned that there was Mafia who slipped out of this one.
I'm going to even it up and see what JR has to say. I'm up for changing.
JR, did you work this weekend or something? I'm asking because you still haven't voted. I was at a music festival all weekend and just returned this evening. I haven't been able to post or read without a lot of effort. Players who are just quiet to be quiet when they could have been active concern me some. You were very quiet like this when we were Mafia together a few games back. And then more active last game as town. Just pointing this out for consideration as the game goes on.
LLL>>>Zolah
I could have wrote exactly what you did. I thought all these things last night. Of course, I am on the chopping block and if I started saying names, boom. Bye bye Zolah. I felt it was odd that SFA was backing up LD so much. It was odd to me to be last second tossed into the runoff from Jaz/Maddog, but I am starting to wonder if those were townies grasping and it got used against them (I do agree that me being in was best for re-votes, but it would have made me less suspicious of them had it not been the last minute both times, with the same two falling out last minute). Immediately after LD fell out, LD voted Maddog and he and SFA went to town on him...
Anyway... I think if Maddog is indeed mafia (I'd lean that way, he was inspector before and this is nothing like when he was inspector, unless he's just a really salty lying townie)... JR would be cleared to me, because I know I am town.
Yeah. You are right. I was reading it as odd behavior to. We only have one Inspector, so to have two players going to town on one other player seems more Mafia to me. Especially in the first day. Now, that doesn't mean one of them (or even both) aren't Mafia who were distancing from Maddog... If so, they really fucked their partner though.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Hot dog! I just got back from grocery shopping. I have to go put stuff away, but wanted to check in. I almost hit send on this before I left, but I didn't want to leave to die in retaliation...
I could have wrote exactly what you did. I thought all these things last night. Of course, I am on the chopping block and if I started saying names, boom. Bye bye Zolah. I felt it was odd that SFA was backing up LD so much. It was odd to me to be last second tossed into the runoff from Jaz/Maddog, but I am starting to wonder if those were townies grasping and it got used against them (I do agree that me being in was best for re-votes, but it would have made me less suspicious of them had it not been the last minute both times, with the same two falling out last minute). Immediately after LD fell out, LD voted Maddog and he and SFA went to town on him...
Anyway... I think if Maddog is indeed mafia (I'd lean that way, he was inspector before and this is nothing like when he was inspector, unless he's just a really salty lying townie)... JR would be cleared to me, because I know I am town.
Yeah. You are right. I was reading it as odd behavior to. We only have one Inspector, so to have two players going to town on one other player seems more Mafia to me. Especially in the first day. Now, that doesn't mean one of them (or even both) aren't Mafia who were distancing from Maddog... If so, they really fucked their partner though.
Those 2 can play a little like villains though to be fair. I can't help but wonder though... Because I don't usually change my vote at the last minute and I did to Maddog... To me, getting tossed into runoffs last minute twice was more sketchy than LD retaliating.
Funny. I didn't want to keep throwing the "not inspector" card after I announced that I voted for LD in R3 because he didn't feel like the inspector. I voted for Maddog mainly because he wasn't giving me the same vibe he did last time he was inspector also.
I feel pretty confident that we got Mafia. That would have been a ridiculous thing for him to have said if he was town. And not giving his name if he was the real inspector was a huge back stab to the town.
If he was indeed inspector, I would think he would have been keeping notes again, because he did great before.
