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I think that Pablo needs to be looked at in day 2 as well. He's been more quiet then he usually is.
I can see why I might deserve some scrutiny. I don't have a problem with being in the runoff. I think I'll hold up fairly well to a closer look, even if I have been a little less active.
FTR, for a third time, I voted late this round and in round 2 because I was at a music festival in the middle of the forest with little to no signal unless I went down to the stage. I'm not going to stop dancing so that I can post on Mafia.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
FTR, for a third time, I voted late this round and in round 2 because I was at a music festival in the middle of the forest with little to no signal unless I went down to the stage. I'm not going to stop dancing so that I can post on Mafia.
Real life shoukd always come before mafia (good, bad, and neutral), so I understand your situation. Getting a little defensive when you are simply 1 of several I only said needed a look. Off to work now, hope I don't miss another page and a half lol
FTR, for a third time, I voted late this round and in round 2 because I was at a music festival in the middle of the forest with little to no signal unless I went down to the stage. I'm not going to stop dancing so that I can post on Mafia.
Real life shoukd always come before mafia (good, bad, and neutral), so I understand your situation. Getting a little defensive when you are simply 1 of several I only said needed a look. Off to work now, hope I don't miss another page and a half lol
I have a feeling with the happenings of this morning and the pending whack, you are going to miss a lot more than 1 1/2.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I would like to see where JR/Pablo move (knowing I'm kind of targeting myself by shaking things up) rather than see people in the runoff get their votes back, especially since none of the Jaz voters seem to be locked on him.
**Complete vote here is Maddog>>Jaz>>Zolah
So, assuming Maddog is Mafia, Zolah seems to have the least amount of affiliation with him. This move was completely unnecessary, last minute, and put her in jeopardy. Mafia will do almost anything, including the unexpected and distancing, but this would have been a stupid move. Not clearing her completely, just putting her on the far side of the spectrum.
I wanted to make this move yesterday but wanted to see where Pablo placed his vote first. I'm leaning town on Maddog right now, and regardless it doesn't make much sense to have Carini be the sole meaningful revote when we could have more info from the Maddog voters.
**the complete vote here is Jaz>>Maddog>>Zolah
And the move that looks most tied in is Jaz moving off of Maddog and on to Zolah. Just like with Zolah, I'm not saying he IS Mafia. First round moves are very blind for townies, so these things happen, especially with initial votes. I honestly don't like to stay on my "voting partner" if they end up in the run-off. But now knowing that Maddog was probably Mafia, this puts Jaz on the opposite side of the spectrum, even though it may very well have been accidental.
I can't decide how I feel about the LD and SFA stuff. If one of them may have been distancing, or both were sincere in their strong suspicion of Maddog on Day 1.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Post by piggy pablo on Sept 5, 2017 13:41:32 GMT -5
Clearly some of you feel the opposite way, but I don't see much, if any, upside for Town in discussing things when Town can't act and Mafia is about to. I was already typing something to this effect when Potent chimed in.
I feel like Maddog and Jaz slipping out and each throwing me in last minute is more suspicious than LD retaliating x2. I also think it would be more beneficial for town to see where Potent/LLL/JR re-vote... Because they've been 3 of the quieter players.
Zolah > Maddog
Full vote here would be:
Zolah > LD > Maddog
If Maddog was mafia, we would both have to be really freakin' dumb to team up together to ensure the 2 of us were the last 2. Which is why I also think JR is probably clear. He had the pick of Maddog or me, and went Maddog.
Clearly some of you feel the opposite way, but I don't see much, if any, upside for Town in discussing things when Town can't act and Mafia is about to. I was already typing something to this effect when Potent chimed in.
I can only speak for myself, but for once we actually know who Mafia probably was in the first round, a rare event. This moves the game along a lot for us. And one of us is about to die and then we won't be able to say anything. Otherwise, I would completely agree that this sort of conjecture is useless this early. I think everyone is just excited that we may have nailed a Mafia right off. But, I understand what you are saying.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
The only way that SFA is mafia is if his and mad dog's argument was completely staged - which I don't see happening. Him and LD are probably my strongest town reads as of now.
The only way that SFA is mafia is if his and mad dog's argument was completely staged - which I don't see happening. Him and LD are probably my strongest town reads as of now.
I don't think there's any reason to consider LD town at this point, any more than anyone else.
How are people suggesting what needs to be done on D2 when we don't even have a whack yet? That's not helpful.
Carini has been quiet. He had to say something.
I was tempted to just hang back and see who came at me for it but yeah, I did have to say something as I don't like much going to sleep with 3 to vote on pre noon deadlines, if we want a town win we need to help each other out
I was tempted to just hang back and see who came at me for it but yeah, I did have to say something as I don't like much going to sleep with 3 to vote on pre noon deadlines, if we want a town win we need to help each other out
I was tempted to just hang back and see who came at me for it but yeah, I did have to say something as I don't like much going to sleep with 3 to vote on pre noon deadlines, if we want a town win we need to help each other out
I'm mostly razzing you.
I know, I'm finishing my quick break and you caught me at a brief point where I could reply. Back to my basement corner now hahaha
I know, I'm finishing my quick break and you caught me at a brief point where I could reply. Back to my basement corner now hahaha
Back to your corner, Carini!
To me, everyone is guilty. JR reads most town to me though, because I am town and he had the choice of me, or mafia Maddog. Maddog is either mafia or really salty. I agree with Dan that SFA would be next on my list of likely town based on their heated ongoing argument. That didn't seem fake. I wouldn't clear LD though.
Even after saying this, I'm not glued to anything. I played into Potent's scheme last game and know anything can be possible.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I know, I'm finishing my quick break and you caught me at a brief point where I could reply. Back to my basement corner now hahaha
Back to your corner, Carini!
To me, everyone is guilty. JR reads most town to me though, because I am town and he had the choice of me, or mafia Maddog. Maddog is either mafia or really salty. I agree with Dan that SFA would be next on my list of likely town based on their heated ongoing argument. That didn't seem fake. I wouldn't clear LD though.
Even after saying this, I'm not glued to anything. I played into Potent's scheme last game and know anything can be possible.
Not clearing LD by any means but I'm curious to why you're hesitant to give him a town lead. Is there anything you have against him?
To me, everyone is guilty. JR reads most town to me though, because I am town and he had the choice of me, or mafia Maddog. Maddog is either mafia or really salty. I agree with Dan that SFA would be next on my list of likely town based on their heated ongoing argument. That didn't seem fake. I wouldn't clear LD though.
Even after saying this, I'm not glued to anything. I played into Potent's scheme last game and know anything can be possible.
Not clearing LD by any means but I'm curious to why you're hesitant to give him a town lead. Is there anything you have against him?
I would lean town on him if I had to make a guess. I don't like to give town reads lightly though. You're all guilty.
Not clearing LD by any means but I'm curious to why you're hesitant to give him a town lead. Is there anything you have against him?
I would lean town on him if I had to make a guess. I don't like to give town reads lightly though. You're all guilty.
He moved me and Maddog from 4-4 to 5-3 in my favor. That definitely looks town when I am looking at it. But this is the same guy who faked inspector as a townie. He wouldn't be high on my list, but I'd still take a second look at him later, if that makes sense.
But this is the same guy who faked inspector as a townie.
I haven't done that in five years, and yet people still keep bringing it up.
I didn't know how long ago it was. Thanks for that information. FWIW, I do lean town on you. I just don't like to shut out all options for the future. You'd make my top 3 list of town reads if I had to make one.
JR reads most town to me though, because I am town and he had the choice of me, or mafia Maddog. Maddog is either mafia or really salty. I agree with Dan that SFA would be next on my list of likely town based on their heated ongoing argument. That didn't seem fake. I wouldn't clear LD though. 
