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As I’ve said before I’m treating thanksgiving as a weekend and just adding the time to Friday for D3R1 and then round 2 would be all weekend. Does this work for everyone?
Would be best to include Fore and Zig along with at least one other voter Fozzie was voting against (Carini, Potent, me or Maddog). And maybe add one from the Fore voters.
LLL>>>ZIG.
LLL was ultimately whacked along with Fozzie. The whacks point to ZIG so without further ado
I've stated my reasons for why I don't think a zig/Carini mafia is likely, and if potent was telling the truth then Maddog's the only other possibility.
I've stated my reasons for why I don't think a zig/Carini mafia is likely, and if potent was telling the truth then Maddog's the only other possibility.
I've stated my reasons for why I don't think a zig/Carini mafia is likely, and if potent was telling the truth then Maddog's the only other possibility.
Who would be your third mafia?
Jaz is the 2nd, we can debate me or zig if the game doesn't end (I still kind of think it's Steve a little)
I've stated my reasons for why I don't think a zig/Carini mafia is likely, and if potent was telling the truth then Maddog's the only other possibility.
Who would be your third mafia?
The only options for a third under an Inspector-Potent game are Steve, Fore, and ZIG, and the voting split on the final Day 1 runoff makes it pretty obvious that it's not Steve. Given the complete lack of info we really get from the first two days, it's hard to deduce from there, but it wouldn't entirely surprise me if Maddog was working with ZIG. It would explain Maddog's move off of ZIG in the first round, as well as why they both voted for you instead of Carini/ZIG in Day 2. And Maddog just now posting about how he wants to vote me off before even debating ZIG/Maddog makes me that combo is even more likely - if they are Mafia together then he's pushing to secure a win. Carini's vote on ZIG still rings nonsensical to me, but I feel like if we lynch one of those two today then we should at least get to a final round.
Hasn't really done/said anything that would change my mind, if Potent was telling the truth it makes sense.
Can you elaborate on this?
I'll try to bullet point this because it's hard to quote on mobile...
-out of the people who stayed on fore, it's you jaz and tainted, potent clears you. -out of people who didn't have a vote on them day one it's you jaz and carini. -hes been all over my move off zig but I was pretty clear in the reason and it was done to try to get a more beneficial runoff. I had no intention of zig falling out that was just as much on others as it was me. -he brings up the splits again in the post above, but again he likes to game them, he was called out for it last game, when he was gaming splits as mafia. -he was really quick to go after zig following the first whack, but I felt like the fozz whack was supposed to be a misdirection, and Jaz never really considered that. I don't think hoping onto bandwagons that fast is good for town and Jaz as a vet is generally played up so it's a little suspect.
As far as zig, I think if he is they did a good job of making him seem framed, which I think if it turns out Steve is mafia we're fine taking out jaz.
Game doesn't end then we vote zig. He's been pretty absent recently and again this game was bonkers and he seemed pretty chill. I've never played with mafia zig so idk any tells there. But I was just mafia with jaz and that's the vibe I'm getting.
Also to answer jazs statement about me voting for Thor, again, it was a shot in the dark at one of Thor jaz taint. And that vote only stayed there because of how the runoff went down
I'll try to bullet point this because it's hard to quote on mobile...
-out of the people who stayed on fore, it's you jaz and tainted, potent clears you*. -out of people who didn't have a vote on them day one it's you jaz** and carini. -hes been all over my move off zig but I was pretty clear in the reason and it was done to try to get a more beneficial runoff. I had no intention of zig falling out that was just as much on others as it was me. -he brings up the splits again in the post above, but again he likes to game them, he was called out for it last game, when he was gaming splits as mafia. -he was really quick to go after zig following the first whack, but I felt like the fozz whack was supposed to be a misdirection, and Jaz never really considered that. I don't think hoping onto bandwagons that fast is good for town and Jaz as a vet is generally played up so it's a little suspect.
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*potent clears both you and tainted. leaving jaz as the possible mafia member who was content with not moving off of Fore at that point.
**should be Thor, Tainted*, and Carini. with both of them cleared it leaves Carini as the possible member who didn't have a vote on them.
both of those reasons were why I voted for Thor at the beginning of D2, after the reveal it's clearer.
I just find it hard to believe that both of the first two whacks were misdirection. They both point to ZIG.
The second one more so, but the first whack pointing to zig is almost too obvious. Either they thought fozzie was inspector or they just thought he stirred up enough shit that he needed to go. But in the event mafia can't figure out inspector, finding a misdirect is a good strategy.
Also again I don't have any issue going after zig next, I still maybe think its Steve as #3, zigs next up.
I'll try to bullet point this because it's hard to quote on mobile...
-out of the people who stayed on fore, it's you jaz and tainted, potent clears you*. -out of people who didn't have a vote on them day one it's you jaz** and carini. -hes been all over my move off zig but I was pretty clear in the reason and it was done to try to get a more beneficial runoff. I had no intention of zig falling out that was just as much on others as it was me. -he brings up the splits again in the post above, but again he likes to game them, he was called out for it last game, when he was gaming splits as mafia. -he was really quick to go after zig following the first whack, but I felt like the fozz whack was supposed to be a misdirection, and Jaz never really considered that. I don't think hoping onto bandwagons that fast is good for town and Jaz as a vet is generally played up so it's a little suspect.
some edits
*potent clears both you and tainted. leaving jaz as the possible mafia member who was content with not moving off of Fore at that point.
**should be Thor, Tainted*, and Carini. with both of them cleared it leaves Carini as the possible member who didn't have a vote on them.
both of those reasons were why I voted for Thor at the beginning of D2, after the reveal it's clearer.
A few things. First, as previously explained, my vote on Fore was expressly to avoid going straight to a two-way runoff. Here is my vote and the tally afterwards.
That was at 8:29PM on a Sunday night. The next votes were by Fore at 11:47PM, by Tainted at 6:17AM, and by Potent at 9:18AM. I was in bed before any vote changes, and expected the round to be over before I woke up, so I didn't check the thread again until after I went into work at 1. If you want to just call all of that a calculated Mafia excuse then fine, that's your right and I understand being suspicious of all reasoning. But just like you said you made your move to get a more beneficial runoff and that others are to blame for not making moves, the exact same applies to me. I moved to get a third in the runoff and others didn't make the necessary moves to make that happen. Town collectively shit the bed in the first round, and we all can agree on that. Maybe I'm wrong about you and you're town. But don't act like your move is any more sufficiently explained or less suspicious then mine. Especially because - if you ARE town - your move saved what would be the remaining Mafia from the final runoff. I have every right to be suspicious of that.
You're claiming that I'm trying to "game splits". Here's the final runoff; townies in blue and Mafia in red. I'll leave myself as unknown.
Last game where I tried to manipulate the split with you and Pablo, we put all three of us on the same side because that counters what people expect. If I was Mafia with Steve and Carini, this would fall into a "traditional" 2-1 Mafia split, which is the exact opposite of trying to game it. All I was saying in my comment about splits was that since I know I'm town, I find it unlikely Steve was Mafia because it would mean that both of his Mafia partners would be voting for him. If you think I'm Mafia with Steve then fine - a traditional split would support that opinion, not be evidence of us manipulating it - but you're pulling accusations against me out of your ass, which tells me that you're either Mafia and really reaching or you're a townie who's just as misguided now as you have been the rest of the game. I believe it's the former. If it's the latter, take the goddamn blinders off dude.
Lastly, we had two whacks in a row that point to ZIG, but instead you're pushing the narrative that he was being framed, and that we should just kill be first and deal with ZIG later. Mafia's first job is to kill the inspector. Which is what I believed they were doing in the Fozzie whack. But instead for some reason you're assuming that the Mafia had no read on the Inspector and just whacked for misdirection. You seem quite convinced of what frankly is the less likely scenario.
If I'm you, I'm waiting on ZIG to make a vote first. Since you're cleared there is absolutely no reason to let ZIG off the hook here, and I'm very curious to see who he would bump up to 2, (Jaz or Maddog).
Would be best to include Fore and Zig along with at least one other voter Fozzie was voting against (Carini, Potent, me or Maddog). And maybe add one from the Fore voters.
LLL>>>ZIG.
I think this is where we're thinking it points to Zig, but it seems like she was stabbing at the dark out of Steve voters. One of which is carini. Her later posts seem more pointed towards zig, but knowing she's not inspector, and at this point not knowing about carini, she could have been whacked for being one of the few to be suggesting looking at Steve voters, while also providing a misdirection towards zig. I still think it's carini Steve and jaz, but if it's not Steve I can see it being zig and have no issue going there.