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They booked Chino Moreno's side project - crosses - in 2013 and have promoted Deftones shows in the past at Pomona, etc. Additionally, they have shown tendencies to book bands that were formerly untouchable after critical re-valuations (e.g. Brand New in 2015 and Jimmy Eat World in 2011 come to mind), and with Pitchfork et al now being super on the Deftones train, there'd be no reason not to book them if they wanted them. I think the issue would be more why would Deftones want to play the fest when they could probably just do an early summer gig at the Greek or maybe even take a long shot on the Forum. It's lined up for next year pretty nicely, though, with a new record probably out late 2018.
I also don't buy they'd have issues booking Metallica. They've worked with them as recently as late 2016 to put on the "surprise" Fonda Theater show in December 2016 and Lars wouldn't say the public comments he did if it was a managerial no-go for them. Dates - again - look pretty good for them next year and it would be their last window until... 2021? 2022? ever? ... so if it doesn't happen next year, I think the argument has more legs.
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I could be wrong here but it also seems like an established act like the Deftones would be more expensive than other acts they’d have in their place and might require a higher billing than than they’d be willing to give them. They have also been far more active than someone like APC so it would be much less rare and redundant.
Grab Serj and Chino’s side projects on the cheap? Sure why not. Book their more expensive project and put them on the second line? Not so much.
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Post by TickleMeElmo on Jun 12, 2018 1:10:29 GMT -5
Another thing to keep in mind is that GV booking and Coachella booking can be two completely different things. They don’t always share the same staff and interest. Just because something was a GV event doesn’t mean Coachella would do the same. They’ve also booked stuff for Coachella that GV has never booked before.
As far as Pearl Jam goes, the guys behind GV don’t like grunge which makes sense since they’ve never booked anybody for that genre. I’m guessing they lost interest in Metallica once they went commercial, same with Green Day.
Metallica went commercial in 1991. And maybe I'm not following your point correctly, but Coachella has booked Lady Gaga, Calvin Harris, Drake, RHCP, The Black Keys, Kings of Leon, Kanye West, Jay-Z, The Killers, and Jack Johnson, all commercial artists.
This is kinda my issue with the JT rumor, is he the “#1” on the poster next year? Usually there’s a big name that’s rare or unique. JT is undoubtedly a big name, but getting him on the tail end of a tour off a shitty album with a bunch of winter California and SW dates isn’t all that special. It doesn’t have the newsworth factor of GnR, OutKast, or a Beyonce one off. Even AC/DC was launching a tour in 2015. It also seems unlikely that he’s gonna drop another album, and less likely that if he did it’d be any better than his last album.
So if JT is on the poster, that means there will be a real “wow” #1, or a lame set of headliners. But the pool of headliners that are more newsworthy than him is small. Lame set of headliners or he won’t be there at all make more sense to me.
This is kinda my issue with the JT rumor, is he the “#1” on the poster next year? Usually there’s a big name that’s rare or unique. JT is undoubtedly a big name, but getting him on the tail end of a tour off a shitty album with a bunch of winter California and SW dates isn’t all that special. It doesn’t have the newsworth factor of GnR, OutKast, or a Beyonce one off. Even AC/DC was launching a tour in 2015. It also seems unlikely that he’s gonna drop another album, and less likely that if he did it’d be any better than his last album.
So if JT is on the poster, that means there will be a real “wow” #1, or a lame set of headliners. But the pool of headliners that are more newsworthy than him is small. Lame set of headliners or he won’t be there at all make more sense to me.
The Stones feel like one of the only ones left who fit the "wow" bill.
This is kinda my issue with the JT rumor, is he the “#1” on the poster next year? Usually there’s a big name that’s rare or unique. JT is undoubtedly a big name, but getting him on the tail end of a tour off a shitty album with a bunch of winter California and SW dates isn’t all that special. It doesn’t have the newsworth factor of GnR, OutKast, or a Beyonce one off. Even AC/DC was launching a tour in 2015. It also seems unlikely that he’s gonna drop another album, and less likely that if he did it’d be any better than his last album.
So if JT is on the poster, that means there will be a real “wow” #1, or a lame set of headliners. But the pool of headliners that are more newsworthy than him is small. Lame set of headliners or he won’t be there at all make more sense to me.
Pop-wise you can't top Beyonce. Rock-wise you can't top a GNR reunion. There isn't a headliner-level electronic artist that is worth a damn. And I can't think of any midcard-type act, regardless of genre, that is ready to make the jump.
The only possible exciting headliner-level reunion is R.E.M.
I feel like we're in for a long season of mostly underwhelming headliners across all festivals.
This is kinda my issue with the JT rumor, is he the “#1” on the poster next year? Usually there’s a big name that’s rare or unique. JT is undoubtedly a big name, but getting him on the tail end of a tour off a shitty album with a bunch of winter California and SW dates isn’t all that special. It doesn’t have the newsworth factor of GnR, OutKast, or a Beyonce one off. Even AC/DC was launching a tour in 2015. It also seems unlikely that he’s gonna drop another album, and less likely that if he did it’d be any better than his last album.
So if JT is on the poster, that means there will be a real “wow” #1, or a lame set of headliners. But the pool of headliners that are more newsworthy than him is small. Lame set of headliners or he won’t be there at all make more sense to me.
Pop-wise you can't top Beyonce. Rock-wise you can't top a GNR reunion. There isn't a headliner-level electronic artist that is worth a damn. And I can't think of any midcard-type act, regardless of genre, that is ready to make the jump.
The only possible exciting headliner-level reunion is R.E.M.
I feel like we're in for a long season of mostly underwhelming headliners across all festivals.
Iron Maiden kicking off their 2019 US dates kinda works. Metallica kinda works, although less so after playing ACL and having generally done the festival circuit. Stones for sure. Rihanna Bruce Dead Co would be newsworthy but won’t happen Jay-Z? Kanye? Daft Punk U2 Fleetwood Mac Adele
I dunno, it’s pretty easy to bet against most of those. Although, who really thought OutKast or GnR were gonna happen before they happened.
Pop-wise you can't top Beyonce. Rock-wise you can't top a GNR reunion. There isn't a headliner-level electronic artist that is worth a damn. And I can't think of any midcard-type act, regardless of genre, that is ready to make the jump.
The only possible exciting headliner-level reunion is R.E.M.
I feel like we're in for a long season of mostly underwhelming headliners across all festivals.
Dead Co would be newsworthy but won’t happen
If it were to happen, what two headliners do you think they'd be smart to pair them with?
If it were to happen, what two headliners do you think they'd be smart to pair them with?
Rihanna/Florence?
In my Dead Co plays Indio fantasy, you have someone like JT as a big mainstream draw, some rappers who take acid, a Skrillex or Bassnectar EDM name, Tame Impala, and then a bunch of the neu-Laurel Canyon acts in the small print.
This is kinda my issue with the JT rumor, is he the “#1” on the poster next year? Usually there’s a big name that’s rare or unique. JT is undoubtedly a big name, but getting him on the tail end of a tour off a shitty album with a bunch of winter California and SW dates isn’t all that special. It doesn’t have the newsworth factor of GnR, OutKast, or a Beyonce one off. Even AC/DC was launching a tour in 2015. It also seems unlikely that he’s gonna drop another album, and less likely that if he did it’d be any better than his last album.
So if JT is on the poster, that means there will be a real “wow” #1, or a lame set of headliners. But the pool of headliners that are more newsworthy than him is small. Lame set of headliners or he won’t be there at all make more sense to me.
This is kinda my issue with the JT rumor, is he the “#1” on the poster next year? Usually there’s a big name that’s rare or unique. JT is undoubtedly a big name, but getting him on the tail end of a tour off a shitty album with a bunch of winter California and SW dates isn’t all that special. It doesn’t have the newsworth factor of GnR, OutKast, or a Beyonce one off. Even AC/DC was launching a tour in 2015. It also seems unlikely that he’s gonna drop another album, and less likely that if he did it’d be any better than his last album.
So if JT is on the poster, that means there will be a real “wow” #1, or a lame set of headliners. But the pool of headliners that are more newsworthy than him is small. Lame set of headliners or he won’t be there at all make more sense to me.
I'd say it's special in the fact that he hasn't played a big multigenre festival in the States before. It's a step-down from Bey, but a really unique grab regardless.
This is kinda my issue with the JT rumor, is he the “#1” on the poster next year? Usually there’s a big name that’s rare or unique. JT is undoubtedly a big name, but getting him on the tail end of a tour off a shitty album with a bunch of winter California and SW dates isn’t all that special. It doesn’t have the newsworth factor of GnR, OutKast, or a Beyonce one off. Even AC/DC was launching a tour in 2015. It also seems unlikely that he’s gonna drop another album, and less likely that if he did it’d be any better than his last album.
So if JT is on the poster, that means there will be a real “wow” #1, or a lame set of headliners. But the pool of headliners that are more newsworthy than him is small. Lame set of headliners or he won’t be there at all make more sense to me.
Pop-wise you can't top Beyonce. Rock-wise you can't top a GNR reunion. There isn't a headliner-level electronic artist that is worth a damn. And I can't think of any midcard-type act, regardless of genre, that is ready to make the jump.
The only possible exciting headliner-level reunion is R.E.M.
I feel like we're in for a long season of mostly underwhelming headliners across all festivals.
Pop-wise you can't top Beyonce. Rock-wise you can't top a GNR reunion. There isn't a headliner-level electronic artist that is worth a damn. And I can't think of any midcard-type act, regardless of genre, that is ready to make the jump.
The only possible exciting headliner-level reunion is R.E.M.
I feel like we're in for a long season of mostly underwhelming headliners across all festivals.
true but we all know they will play bonnaroo first when they come back. maybe ole' coach will pick 'em up the next year.
