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I think Zig is detrimental to the town, though that's basically in every game I play. If he's not Mafia, he's their useful tool in creating enough chaos for Mafia to hide behind.
okaaaaay. Coming from the guy that is always Inspector and Mafia wins in everyone of those games...
Mafia, I want to say 96 - I was inspector, Kdogg faked it. I had Kdogg's name and picked off NBF, meanwhile you rode his nuts so hard that game. That loss was on you. Not me.
The more I think about it, the less I want him around.
If Kanye and LLL might be working together, it's worth exploring in Day 2.
What's the logic here?
These two people might be working together, so let's vote off an unaffiliated person now and deal with them later? So lets say the town votes wrong on both counts, we've wasted two days on the wrong trail.
I'm pretty sure you're the first to suggest LLL and Kanye might be working together. So if you're suspicious of that I don't understand why your vote doesn't show that. Instead you're making a grudge vote.
okaaaaay. Coming from the guy that is always Inspector and Mafia wins in everyone of those games...
Mafia, I want to say 96 - I was inspector, Kdogg faked it. I had Kdogg's name and picked off NBF, meanwhile you rode his nuts so hard that game. That loss was on you. Not me.
Hahaha. How about when when you were inspector in 106, or 104, or 101, or 92?
Looking at your record, you’ve literally been on the winning town team once in your last 8 games as inspector / town and that lone victory was in M102 when Inspector JR and townie ZIG dragged the rest of the participants to a finish. But I’m garbage...
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Mafia, I want to say 96 - I was inspector, Kdogg faked it. I had Kdogg's name and picked off NBF, meanwhile you rode his nuts so hard that game. That loss was on you. Not me.
Hahaha. How about when when you were inspector in 106, or 104, or 101, or 92?
Looking at your record, you’ve literally been on the winning town team once in your last 8 games as inspector / town and that lone victory was in M102 when Inspector JR and townie ZIG dragged the rest of the participants to a finish. But I’m garbage...
Simple win loss is kinda a bad metric to judge skill.
Post by potentpotables on Aug 22, 2018 17:08:51 GMT -5
Potent > ZIG > Kanye
I'm not comfortable with ZIG being voted off. Kanye, if you die, I'm sorry man, come back and play next game. I do hate that we vote out new players so quickly sometimes.
Hahaha. How about when when you were inspector in 106, or 104, or 101, or 92?
Looking at your record, you’ve literally been on the winning town team once in your last 8 games as inspector / town and that lone victory was in M102 when Inspector JR and townie ZIG dragged the rest of the participants to a finish. But I’m garbage...
Simple win loss is kinda a bad metric to judge skill.
I don’t necessarily disagree, however, LD’s basic reasoning for moving his vote to me was that essentially I’m detrimental to the town. Of all the people to throw out a lazy excuse to vote for me like “ZIG sucks” it screams the most lazy from someone like LD.
Yeah there's definitely shenanigans here. It's rare that you see vote switches late in the first round unless people have a concrete reason or suspicion, and the reasoning for some of the recent moves have been bullshit. I think it's likely that there's a Mafia between Zig/Kanye, and if that is indeed the case, I think have a partner in at least one of LLL/MadDog/LD/Potent.
Yeah there's definitely shenanigans here. It's rare that you see vote switches late in the first round unless people have a concrete reason or suspicion, and the reasoning for some of the recent moves have been bullshit. I think it's likely that there's a Mafia between Zig/Kanye, and if that is indeed the case, I think have a partner in at least one of LLL/MadDog/LD/Potent.
That's what I was saying, I think zig knew people would move off of him if he were in the last runoff and effectively get rid of me. Whether it be with Pablo or Dan or potent or something.
Both LD and potent never gave any “real” reasons for their switch. LD presumably because he doesn’t like zig and potent because “he’s not comfortable” with voting zig off with no further explanation. Not really sure what to make of both those switches.
Both LD and potent never gave any “real” reasons for their switch. LD presumably because he doesn’t like zig and potent because “he’s not comfortable” with voting zig off with no further explanation. Not really sure what to make of both those switches.
I'm not comfortable with people voting someone off because they "don't like" them. ZIG's move to up Pablo to 3 sucks in my opinion, and I think it actively hurt the town in this game. But that's the only reason I see to vote for ZIG, and I don't think it's a very good reason since he's been doing that for a few games now. I hate that the runoff is a guy who employed a tactic I didn't like vs. the new guy. Do I wish I would have moved to Pablo? Yes, but it still doesn't solve the general problem.
This game has been weird. We had a huge back and forth, probably at least a page of the game if not more, about whether it was a good game tactic to vote off a new guy. ZIG's move generated a lot of the other conversation. All of the Round Three vote switches probably saving one or the other person in the runoff. I feel like there's been a lot of tire spinning for not much action.
Post by Silver Surfer on Aug 22, 2018 19:32:43 GMT -5
The fact people are voting for me because people aren't comfortable with the reasons zig is being voted on rubs me the wrong way. Like I literally did nothing but because other people voted for zig, I'm being voted on for no other reason
Post by piggy pablo on Aug 22, 2018 20:08:50 GMT -5
Just got off work. No idea what's going on but I'm not gonna be switching. I feel like there's more reason to vote Kanye off and also more reason to keep ZIG around.
Post by SupeЯfuЯЯyanimal on Aug 22, 2018 20:22:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm not switching either. For one, I don't have a concrete reason to and LD's non-response doesn't make me confident. I also don't want to add to this pile of vote switches. If Jaz is right, and one of these two is mafia, I think it's better if we don't muddy the waters anymore for now. Unless someone can see a clear pattern to this. I really don't. I see how to make two arguments for it but I'm not sure there's enough info either way.
Post by Silver Surfer on Aug 22, 2018 20:26:03 GMT -5
I mean statistically speaking, it's easier to survive the runoff if you are mafia. Mafia wouldn't vote against their own so that's two votes off of them already. Zig knew to pin against me in the final runoff because people are more unsure about me and would most likely vote me out over him as he has the experience.
I mean statistically speaking, it's easier to survive the runoff if you are mafia. Mafia wouldn't vote against their own so that's two votes off of them already. Zig knew to pin against me in the final runoff because people are more unsure about me and would most likely vote me out over him as he has the experience.
Mafia do vote against their own here. It's very rare for mafia to have all three votes on the same person in round 1. Like less than 1 and 10 chance or something.
