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Post by piggy pablo on Apr 23, 2020 22:56:49 GMT -5
I've considered having tiers, maybe like T is saying. Like top-third, middle-third, bottom-third. Somewhat concerned that this will present issues similar to the Bonus Rounds of the Coachella draft. Not going to be the same in the sense that it's an auction and no one will be gifted an extra-valuable pick, but somewhat-arbitrary cutoffs could bring unforeseen challenges.
I'm not up for an auction-type draft seeing how many trades have happened with round 31. It's messy but I understand where people making these trades are coming from aswell.
I'm not up for an auction-type draft seeing how many trades have happened with round 31. It's messy but I understand where people making these trades are coming from aswell.
well you'd have less trades if everyone you wanted was available to you
The point of an auction is to avoid the inefficiencies of a snake draft and particularly the bonus round of the current draft.
What do you mean?
Auctions would usually require more skill because you'd have to balance a budget instead of just taking whomever is your best act available at a given round. Snake drafts leave a lot up to luck/randomness
Auctions would usually require more skill because you'd have to balance a budget instead of just taking whomever is your best act available at a given round. Snake drafts leave a lot up to luck/randomness
I don't think snake drafts leave a lot up to luck. I don't believe people who pick in the top 4/5 in the very first round have an advantage over people who pick later. How would that even work tho? You're given let's say 1000 bucks to book your line up, how'd that even work if someone wants a pick that bad he'd give half of his money for that one pick leaving nothing for other picks. It's slow aswell for everyone to constantly bid and people in other time zones are just in a complete disadvantage.
Auctions would usually require more skill because you'd have to balance a budget instead of just taking whomever is your best act available at a given round. Snake drafts leave a lot up to luck/randomness
I don't think snake drafts leave a lot up to luck. I don't believe people who pick in the top 4/5 in the very first round have an advantage over people who pick later. How would that even work tho? You're given let's say 1000 bucks to book your line up, how'd that even work if someone wants a pick that bad he'd give half of his money for that one pick leaving nothing for other picks. It's slow aswell for everyone to constantly bid and people in other time zones are just in a complete disadvantage.
I'm not saying we should do that. But Auctions are inherently fairer. Everyone at the beginning of the draft has equal chance of every act. What they choose to spend their money on is up to them. If you want to spend $1,000 on Radiohead and take 70 UDFAs that's your prerogative.
I don't think snake drafts leave a lot up to luck. I don't believe people who pick in the top 4/5 in the very first round have an advantage over people who pick later. How would that even work tho? You're given let's say 1000 bucks to book your line up, how'd that even work if someone wants a pick that bad he'd give half of his money for that one pick leaving nothing for other picks. It's slow aswell for everyone to constantly bid and people in other time zones are just in a complete disadvantage.
I'm not saying we should do that. But Auctions are inherently fairer. Everyone at the beginning of the draft has equal chance of every act. What they choose to spend their money on is up to them. If you want to spend $1,000 on Radiohead and take 70 UDFAs that's your prerogative.
In this case, there wouldn't be UFDA's... I think? Jake Jortles? And again, if you're setting a maxium of let's say 250 bucks per pick, there will always be people willingly to pay that amount so how do you decide who gets the artist in question anyways.
I'm not saying we should do that. But Auctions are inherently fairer. Everyone at the beginning of the draft has equal chance of every act. What they choose to spend their money on is up to them. If you want to spend $1,000 on Radiohead and take 70 UDFAs that's your prerogative.
In this case, there wouldn't be UFDA's... I think? Jake Jortles ? And again, if you're setting a maxium of let's say 250 bucks per pick, there will always be people willingly to pay that amount so how do you decide who gets the artist in question anyways.
I'm just saying how it works in other fantasy situations - don't really know any rules about this draft.
I'm not saying we should do that. But Auctions are inherently fairer. Everyone at the beginning of the draft has equal chance of every act. What they choose to spend their money on is up to them. If you want to spend $1,000 on Radiohead and take 70 UDFAs that's your prerogative.
In this case, there wouldn't be UFDA's... I think? Jake Jortles ? And again, if you're setting a maxium of let's say 250 bucks per pick, there will always be people willingly to pay that amount so how do you decide who gets the artist in question anyways.
Im not yet considering an auction for the iii points draft. Could be interesting to create a headliner pool and make only the two headliner picks an auction round. But for now I'm thinking its a snake.
Post by Jake Jortles on Apr 24, 2020 11:31:53 GMT -5
I don't think high first round picks will be as overpowered in the iii Points draft as they are in other drafts. I wouldn't even be surprised if someone began filling out the DJ Stage in round 1 of the iii points draft since their are so many potential headliners for iii Points and you only need 2.
So I think since everyone will have a different strategy, the Snake will be fine. Also, I plan on this draft being different enough, idk if this is the one where we throw that extra wrench in where we are altering the mechanics of how the draft functions.
I'm not saying we should do that. But Auctions are inherently fairer. Everyone at the beginning of the draft has equal chance of every act. What they choose to spend their money on is up to them. If you want to spend $1,000 on Radiohead and take 70 UDFAs that's your prerogative.
In this case, there wouldn't be UFDA's... I think? Jake Jortles ? And again, if you're setting a maxium of let's say 250 bucks per pick, there will always be people willingly to pay that amount so how do you decide who gets the artist in question anyways.
Dont see the value in setting a maximum $ per pick if going auction. If you pick Radiohead and then 70 "$0"bands you will lose, so theres not really a lot to gain to go that route.
Wouldn’t every person have to be present the whole time for an auction?
Nah it would just go a lot slower. You can give like 4 hours to bid and allow Proxy bidding, then also be able to be "out" which would have you skipped for the remaining bids for that band, which will speed things up.
Wouldn’t every person have to be present the whole time for an auction?
Nah it would just go a lot slower. You can give like 4 hours to bid and allow Proxy bidding, then also be able to be "out" which would have you skipped for the remaining bids for that band, which will speed things up.
So is Infinity first, then iii points or we doing it both or what's poppin'? cdevaneyJake JortlesJulie
How are you feeling about running another draft, cdevaney? Are you alright with all the madness going on right now? Idk if I've underestimated running a draft but I gotta say that I'd have never done it without Fred. That's for sure.
yeah if we do an auction the maximum bid should be the full allowance.
Typically in an auction the max bid is the budget minus a dollar for each remaining draft pick for that drafter. So if I have a 100 dollar budget and have to make thirteen picks, my max bid at the start is 88. I still have to spend at least a dollar on each of the last twelve acts. I can nominate an act for a dollar, but I have to hope no one bids two. If someone does, I'm then out on that artist. This would, for the most part, mean I'd be picking from the leftovers toward the end of the draft.
I would probably do some number of drafted acts like that, like 25, with a budget of, whatever, let's say 300. So the most anyone could spend for an act would be 276, and then they'd probably be picking semi-leftovers at the end with dollar bids. Then we could proceed with free agency in the usual way we do it.
But you are right, there would not be an arbitrarily lowered max bid, the way that NBA has max contracts. That would just lead people to max bid when they nominate their headliners, if I had to guess, meaning whoever jumped on X-act first would get them, rather than the person who valued them highest.
Also, most auctions have a set nomination order, non-snaking, so at the end, when the only players left to pick are those who have one dollar per pick to make, it turns into a non-snake draft like a typical IRL sports league draft. We could do that, but I have a couple alternative ideas that I think I like more.
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