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Is there a link for this? Not saying it’s not true, I just can’t find it. Everything I’ve seen has been “ CDC recommends universal indoor masking by all* students (ages 2 years and older), staff, teachers, and visitors to K-12 schools, regardless of vaccination status.”.
It appears I may have been misunderstanding an article by doctors I read arguing that guideline changes in other areas could pave the way for them to make this change, my bad. I stand by the crux of my opinion though. Particularly in schools where kids are all >5 (hence have vax access), the risk level doesn't justify the learning loss/mental health issues associated with permanent masking in class. There was a point where it did imo, but that point was pre-vaccine. The vax makes it so kids will almost never die from Covid, and it also extremely reduces long-Covid risk, I think a lot of people are underestimating just how great these vaccines are. Again, I'd rather wait until March 1 to drop these requirements, as by then Omciron will have long since peaked, but there need to be off ramps at some point. Living a life of constant restrictions and taking every mitigation method available to you (vaccination, no in-person social life, cancelling outside household hobbies, etc...) becomes super easy to burnout on when there aren't clear standards for when such restrictions/mitigations won't be necessary (imo it should've been when you're fully vaccinated, subject to getting needed boosters periodically). As a VA resident, I'm no Youngkin fan, I voted against him, but Covid isn't a political virus. The left/right have both been stuck in their Covid opinons since day 1. In the early days, Covid's risk level justified the restrictions of the left, but vaccines ironically have moved the risk-level of Covid down to the point where we are close to the right's "live like it's normal" stance... though the right undeniably cost us 100,000's of lives and their anti-vax sentiment is ironically the only thing that's holding us back from the normalcy they've demanded since day 1. So I guess in this case, it's a bit of a broke clock being right twice a day situation. We can't live a zero risk tolerance life, and ever since the vaccines have been widely distributed, Covid has been moving further and further into the category of an acceptable risk for the benefit of an open society.
Apparently a mask can make things not enter your ear holes and make it to ya brain!!!
There have been repeated studies showing that the restrictions imposed have caused learning loss for kids. That was never really debated, it was just a necessary trade-off for safety. Studies showed that taking off masks in particiularly caused 70% of students to say their learning experienced was enhanced. I'm not saying they were never justified, they absolutely were. However, making such a trade-off is making increasibly less sense in a world where we have highly effective vaccines available to all over 5, the Covid risk level to children is almost non-existent. An unvaxxed kid statistically is less at risk to Covid than a vaxxed 20-something. Add in a vax to that situation, and the risk to them is slim to none (the vax even reducces odds of long covid). Requiring a vaccine and requiring symptomatic students to stay home seems like a reasonable amount of mitigation. And kids who want to wear a mask can, and there's been lots of work to make quality masks (n95 not useless cloth) available to those who want them. What particular metrics are you waiting to see to remove the requirement for masking? I'm all for keeping the masks on until March, but by then Covid case levels + vaccine immunity should mean it's safe to live a relatively normal and unencumbered life.
Mask mandates should be a thing until covid cases really bottom out and we have the antiviral pills widely available. There are many cases of children developing diabetes after catching covid so its not exactly a zero risk for them. while it certainly sucks for kids due to it depriving them of reading lips and facial expressions, it seems like a fair trade off to me until we have a widely available treatment and lower case numbers. Also I agree with cloth masks being completely useless and the mandates should require surgical or better. cloth masks are completely pointless
Lolllll at masks giving kids setbacks. Guess who cares about masks? ADULTS. My students barely give two shits about wearing masks. Try again buddy. 🙄
Also wtf at that ableism??? Like who cares about disabled people right? You’re gross.
I'm all for making individual recommendations to students based on health conditions. Providing governmental financial support for homeschooling, virtual learning, etc for students who are in the 2.7% of the population that is immunocompromised (which is the stat for the general population, with 50 to 59 being the most heavily effected category, for children the level is likely much lower). What about the mental health effects that living with constant restrictions that prevent normal social behavior we are putting on the other >97.3% of students? This is a very real phenomena, there have been lots of reports of increased mental health disorders and suicide attempts amongst teens. All for a disease we have an extremely effective vaccine for and which these children were already at low-risk for relative to the population to begin with. Again, I think the changes are coming about a month to soon given Omicron levels, but there needs to be clear communication about when the restrictions will drop. IE: when covid cases in this area reach x level and we've limited attendance to our school to vaccinated students, etc. What metrics are you needing to see with Covid cases/vaccinations to get behind dropping these restrictions?
Mask mandates should be a thing until covid cases really bottom out and we have the antiviral pills widely available. There are many cases of children developing diabetes after catching covid so its not exactly a zero risk for them. while it certainly sucks for kids due to it depriving them of reading lips and facial expressions, it seems like a fair trade off to me until we have a widely available treatment and lower case numbers. Also I agree with cloth masks being completely useless and the mandates should require surgical or better. cloth masks are completely pointless
Has there been a study on how vaccines impact this risk of diabetes? It seems like it'd be a symptom that falls into the category of long-Covid, which the vaccine does decrease the risk of. I do see the need of masks in U5 children who don't have access to the vax, but again I think people in general underestimate just how effective these vaccines are at preventing serious Covid cases (both long and short-term).
There have been repeated studies showing that the restrictions imposed have caused learning loss for kids. That was never really debated, it was just a necessary trade-off for safety. Studies showed that taking off masks in particiularly caused 70% of students to say their learning experienced was enhanced. I'm not saying they were never justified, they absolutely were. However, making such a trade-off is making increasibly less sense in a world where we have highly effective vaccines available to all over 5, the Covid risk level to children is almost non-existent. An unvaxxed kid statistically is less at risk to Covid than a vaxxed 20-something. Add in a vax to that situation, and the risk to them is slim to none (the vax even reducces odds of long covid). Requiring a vaccine and requiring symptomatic students to stay home seems like a reasonable amount of mitigation. And kids who want to wear a mask can, and there's been lots of work to make quality masks (n95 not useless cloth) available to those who want them. What particular metrics are you waiting to see to remove the requirement for masking? I'm all for keeping the masks on until March, but by then Covid case levels + vaccine immunity should mean it's safe to live a relatively normal and unencumbered life.
So maybe save your argument for March then. The last two months have a been a no brainer for kids to be wearing masks. Since we can’t get that right it might not be time to talk about off ramps yet.
Well the restrictions aren't dropping in VA until mid-February, so the decision is actually extremely close to what I'd like to see. Seems reasonable to just say "I agree with this, but lets push the effective date of the change back two weeks." Covid is within days of reaching it's peak in VA, so by late Feb/early March cases should be back to reasonable levels.
Apparently a mask can make things not enter your ear holes and make it to ya brain!!!
There have been repeated studies showing that the restrictions imposed have caused learning loss for kids. That was never really debated, it was just a necessary trade-off for safety. Studies showed that taking off masks in particiularly caused 70% of students to say their learning experienced was enhanced. I'm not saying they were never justified, they absolutely were. However, making such a trade-off is making increasibly less sense in a world where we have highly effective vaccines available to all over 5, the Covid risk level to children is almost non-existent. An unvaxxed kid statistically is less at risk to Covid than a vaxxed 20-something. Add in a vax to that situation, and the risk to them is slim to none (the vax even reducces odds of long covid). Requiring a vaccine and requiring symptomatic students to stay home seems like a reasonable amount of mitigation. And kids who want to wear a mask can, and there's been lots of work to make quality masks (n95 not useless cloth) available to those who want them. What particular metrics are you waiting to see to remove the requirement for masking? I'm all for keeping the masks on until March, but by then Covid case levels + vaccine immunity should mean it's safe to live a relatively normal and unencumbered life.
If you think masks are the biggest thing impacting students’ ability to learn right now, you are so far out of touch. But please, tell me how you know more about my student than I do after 13 years of teaching. 🙄
And yeah. You REEK of disgusting ableism. Boooo hoooo you have to wear a mask but someone else gets to keep their life? Wow so awful!!! I can already tell your mouth is your worst feature, so not sure what you’re worried about.
Also- I have 1 out of 16 students in my class vaccinated. Are you going to come down here and make their parents vaccinate them?? Or should my children pay the price for their parents’ ignorance?
Well the restrictions aren't dropping in VA until mid-February, so the decision is actually extremely close to what I'd like to see. Seems reasonable to just say "I agree with this, but lets push the effective date of the change back two weeks." Covid is within days of reaching it's peak in VA, so by late Feb/early March cases should be back to reasonable levels.
Virginia started their “mask optional” policy in schools two days ago.
Appears I am mistaken again, my bad. But again, at the crux of what I'm saying is just that there need to be tangibly stated off ramps for when restrictions can end. As someone who's been isolating about 19 of the last 22 months, I just want a well-defined light at the end of the tunnel to be looking out for. Triple vaxxed, rarely leave the house and n95 or double cloth mask when I do, and have cancelled lots of plans the past two months to isolate. It just feels the data is increasingly showing how well the vaccines work and how little at risk vaxxed people are, suggesting they shouldn't be subject to mandatory restrictions once the Omicron peak passes (which is within days).
Also- I have 1 out of 16 students in my class vaccinated. Are you going to come down here and make their parents vaccinate them?? Or should my children pay the price for their parents’ ignorance?
Life would be a lot better if anti-vaxxers just didn't exist or all collectively changed their opinion, but for now unfortunately the only option is requiring the vax for all public schools. Most of the anti-vaxxers I know are not wealthy enough to send their kids to private school, they will relent when faced with the prospect of their kid not getting an education.
Also- I have 1 out of 16 students in my class vaccinated. Are you going to come down here and make their parents vaccinate them?? Or should my children pay the price for their parents’ ignorance?
Life would be a lot better if anti-vaxxers just didn't exist or all collectively changed their opinion, but for now unfortunately the only option is requiring the vax for all public schools. Most of the anti-vaxxers I know are not wealthy enough to send their kids to private school, they will relent when faced with the prospect of their kid not getting an education.
Ok….but that’s not going to happen. Especially not in Texas. So wearing a mask is like the bare minimum. My kids are way more traumatized by a million other things.
There have been repeated studies showing that the restrictions imposed have caused learning loss for kids. That was never really debated, it was just a necessary trade-off for safety. Studies showed that taking off masks in particiularly caused 70% of students to say their learning experienced was enhanced. I'm not saying they were never justified, they absolutely were. However, making such a trade-off is making increasibly less sense in a world where we have highly effective vaccines available to all over 5, the Covid risk level to children is almost non-existent. An unvaxxed kid statistically is less at risk to Covid than a vaxxed 20-something. Add in a vax to that situation, and the risk to them is slim to none (the vax even reducces odds of long covid). Requiring a vaccine and requiring symptomatic students to stay home seems like a reasonable amount of mitigation. And kids who want to wear a mask can, and there's been lots of work to make quality masks (n95 not useless cloth) available to those who want them. What particular metrics are you waiting to see to remove the requirement for masking? I'm all for keeping the masks on until March, but by then Covid case levels + vaccine immunity should mean it's safe to live a relatively normal and unencumbered life.
If you think masks are the biggest thing impacting students’ ability to learn right now, you are so far out of touch. But please, tell me how you know more about my student than I do after 13 years of teaching. 🙄
And yeah. You REEK of disgusting ableism. Boooo hoooo you have to wear a mask but someone else gets to keep their life? Wow so awful!!! I can already tell your mouth is your worst feature, so not sure what you’re worried about.
You reek of judgement. I've isolated 19 out of 22 months, fallen deeper and deeper into depression, gained 40 lbs, lost most of my meaningful friendships because my friends didn't want to keep isolating or just lost touch through lack of proximity, have seen my career prospects dwindle, and live with two at risk parents (one of whom refuses the vaccine) who I can't move away from because they rely on my financial support, so I've had my fair share of Covid-realted stress and sacrifice. I did get the vax at first chance, and got my booster when Omicron started. I n95 or double cloth mask everywhere I go (but I don't really go anywhere other than the grocery store). So sorry I'm such a piece of shit for saying that I think these incredible vaccines, once Omicron has peaked and started to subside, justify a return to relative normalcy imo, or at the very least public health officials providing tangible goal post metrics for when normalcy can return. I just want a light at the end of the tunnel, life is getting boring and lonely, and I'm frankly tired of being told what a selfish and inconsiderate asshole I am for wanting such reasonable things out of public health officials.
If you think masks are the biggest thing impacting students’ ability to learn right now, you are so far out of touch. But please, tell me how you know more about my student than I do after 13 years of teaching. 🙄
And yeah. You REEK of disgusting ableism. Boooo hoooo you have to wear a mask but someone else gets to keep their life? Wow so awful!!! I can already tell your mouth is your worst feature, so not sure what you’re worried about.
You reek of judgement. I've isolated 19 out of 22 months, fallen deeper and deeper into depression, gained 40 lbs, lost most of my meaningful friendships because my friends didn't want to keep isolating or just lost touch through lack of proximity, have seen my career prospects dwindle, and live with two at risk parents (one of whom refuses the vaccine) who I can't move away from because they rely on my financial support, so I've had my fair share of Covid-realted stress and sacrifice. I did get the vax at first chance, and got my booster when Omicron started. I n95 or double cloth mask everywhere I go (but I don't really go anywhere other than the grocery store). So sorry I'm such a piece of shit for saying that I think these incredible vaccines, once Omicron has peaked and started to subside, justify a return to relative normalcy imo, or at the very least public health officials providing tangible goal post metrics for when normalcy can return. I just want a light at the end of the tunnel, life is getting boring and lonely, and I'm frankly tired of being told what a selfish and inconsiderate asshole I am for wanting such reasonable things out of public health officials.
What does any of that have to do with kids wearing masks at school?
You reek of judgement. I've isolated 19 out of 22 months, fallen deeper and deeper into depression, gained 40 lbs, lost most of my meaningful friendships because my friends didn't want to keep isolating or just lost touch through lack of proximity, have seen my career prospects dwindle, and live with two at risk parents (one of whom refuses the vaccine) who I can't move away from because they rely on my financial support, so I've had my fair share of Covid-realted stress and sacrifice. I did get the vax at first chance, and got my booster when Omicron started. I n95 or double cloth mask everywhere I go (but I don't really go anywhere other than the grocery store). So sorry I'm such a piece of shit for saying that I think these incredible vaccines, once Omicron has peaked and started to subside, justify a return to relative normalcy imo, or at the very least public health officials providing tangible goal post metrics for when normalcy can return. I just want a light at the end of the tunnel, life is getting boring and lonely, and I'm frankly tired of being told what a selfish and inconsiderate asshole I am for wanting such reasonable things out of public health officials.
What does any of that have to do with kids wearing masks at school?
Because if the least at risk group is going to be perpetually subjected to restrictions then the much more at risk adults are certainly going to be. I don't think restrictions should go away rn (again March seems better), but there needs to be clear communication about what metrics will be used to make such a decision and they should stick to it. Everyone who's been isolating or changing their behavior substantially for Covid deserves to at least have a light at the end of the tunnel, and that can easily be provided by publicly stating what metrics will be used to determine when this can move to an endemic, manage the risk on your own, stage.
What does any of that have to do with kids wearing masks at school?
Because if the least at risk group is going to be perpetually subjected to restrictions then the much more at risk adults are certainly going to be. I don't think restrictions should go away rn (again March seems better), but there needs to be clear communication about what metrics will be used to make such a decision and they should stick to it. Everyone who's been isolating or changing their behavior substantially for Covid deserves to at least have a light at the end of the tunnel, and that can easily be provided by publicly stating what metrics will be used to determine when this can move to an endemic, manage the risk on your own, stage.
How does a mask impact your life negatively other than being annoying? If anyone should be complaining it is me and my sad lipsticks that never get worn!! Masks are literally the easiest “restriction”.
Because if the least at risk group is going to be perpetually subjected to restrictions then the much more at risk adults are certainly going to be. I don't think restrictions should go away rn (again March seems better), but there needs to be clear communication about what metrics will be used to make such a decision and they should stick to it. Everyone who's been isolating or changing their behavior substantially for Covid deserves to at least have a light at the end of the tunnel, and that can easily be provided by publicly stating what metrics will be used to determine when this can move to an endemic, manage the risk on your own, stage.
How does a mask impact your life negatively other than being annoying? If anyone should be complaining it is me and my sad lipsticks that never get worn!! Masks are literally the easiest “restriction”.
It prevents me from doing activities I love, such as playing sports, moshing, dating, eating at restaurants, etc. It's also just incredibly fatiguing to wear a n95 mask all day, I don't know if that's just a me thing because I'm overweight and don't have the best lung capacity or a universal experience. I also struggle with audibly speaking in an n95 mask, which makes stuff like playing board games with friends difficult. I mask everytime I go out now, but that means skipping all the above listed activities. Which I'm fine with doing to keep myself and others safe, it just feels increasingly that with being triple vaxxed I'm not really keeping anyone much safer by sacrificing these things. I just want clear guideance from public health officials on when such restrictions won't be necessary anymore, why is that to much to ask?
How does a mask impact your life negatively other than being annoying? If anyone should be complaining it is me and my sad lipsticks that never get worn!! Masks are literally the easiest “restriction”.
It prevents me from doing activities I love, such as playing sports, moshing, dating, eating at restaurants, etc. It's also just incredibly fatiguing to wear a n95 mask all day, I don't know if that's just a me thing because I'm overweight and don't have the best lung capacity or a universal experience. I also struggle with audibly speaking in an n95 mask, which makes stuff like playing board games with friends difficult. I mask everytime I go out now, but that means skipping all the above listed activities. Which I'm fine with doing to keep myself and others safe, it just feels increasingly that with being triple vaxxed I'm not really keeping anyone much safer by sacrificing these things. I just want clear guideance from public health officials on when such restrictions won't be necessary anymore, why is that to much to ask?
The one thing keeping you from doing the things you love is not the mask mandates. It’s you. You can still do these things. You just have to get creative. Instead of spinning class, I ride my bike. When it’s cold, I hit the community center indoor track. In a mask. I go to restaurants at off peak hours or patronize places that are not as busy and can really use my money. I still go to shows, wearing a mask. Keep the temp a little cooler, makes wearing a mask easier so you can play board games. There a lot of things you can do.
As far as children, parents won’t get them vaccinated around here. Much less masked.
And the reason you can’t get clear guidance from public health officials on when such restrictions wont be necessary is because they don’t fucking know. So few people want to do what is necessary to stop it. How the hell do they know when it will be over.
PS-My sister is a teacher, so don’t bother with the kids don’t need a mask speech. It’s wasted on me.
How does a mask impact your life negatively other than being annoying? If anyone should be complaining it is me and my sad lipsticks that never get worn!! Masks are literally the easiest “restriction”.
It prevents me from doing activities I love, such as playing sports, moshing, dating, eating at restaurants, etc. It's also just incredibly fatiguing to wear a n95 mask all day, I don't know if that's just a me thing because I'm overweight and don't have the best lung capacity or a universal experience. I also struggle with audibly speaking in an n95 mask, which makes stuff like playing board games with friends difficult. I mask everytime I go out now, but that means skipping all the above listed activities. Which I'm fine with doing to keep myself and others safe, it just feels increasingly that with being triple vaxxed I'm not really keeping anyone much safer by sacrificing these things. I just want clear guideance from public health officials on when such restrictions won't be necessary anymore, why is that to much to ask?
If you feel this way why do you continue to sacrifice these things? Also, don't see how kids wearing masks in schools has anything to do with you not going to a restaurant.
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It prevents me from doing activities I love, such as playing sports, moshing, dating, eating at restaurants, etc. It's also just incredibly fatiguing to wear a n95 mask all day, I don't know if that's just a me thing because I'm overweight and don't have the best lung capacity or a universal experience. I also struggle with audibly speaking in an n95 mask, which makes stuff like playing board games with friends difficult. I mask everytime I go out now, but that means skipping all the above listed activities. Which I'm fine with doing to keep myself and others safe, it just feels increasingly that with being triple vaxxed I'm not really keeping anyone much safer by sacrificing these things. I just want clear guideance from public health officials on when such restrictions won't be necessary anymore, why is that to much to ask?
If you feel this way why do you continue to sacrifice these things? Also, don't see how kids wearing masks in schools has anything to do with you not going to a restaurant.
I live with two at risk parents (60s/diabetics) who rely on my help to pay their bills (so there's no moving out, even though I can afford to). Neither of them have prolific social lives, so I'm practically their only exposure to Covid other than the grocery store. One of them is an anti-vaxxer, the other has some serious health/immune system problems (but is vaxxed). As much as I want to go back to living life how I want, it just feels wrong to put them at risk. I could care less if I get Covid, because I know my vaccine will protect me, but I can't risk giving it to loved ones it could kill, so my "return to normalcy" has been getting postponed a month ever since I got the vax w/ the exception of June and October when I lived a little because cases were low. I'm genuinely optimistic about getting my life going again in March when Omicron relaxs.
While I feel the risk level for my household is high enough to justify changing of behavior, I don't understand why the risk level is high enough for society as a whole to have restrictions, rather than letting individuals make their own decision as I am. The vaccines were supposed to be the path to normalcy, and they work incredibly well at preventing serious cases. Hospitals are flooded with anti-vaxxers, while the vaxxed are just getting a more flu-like virus, or even weaker. I just don't understand the restrictions for vaxxed people, particularly children, who have been shown to suffer the most from restrictions despite being the least at risk from the virus. Put the onus of restrictions on anti-vaxxers, make them pay for their idiocy and selfishness.
It prevents me from doing activities I love, such as playing sports, moshing, dating, eating at restaurants, etc. It's also just incredibly fatiguing to wear a n95 mask all day, I don't know if that's just a me thing because I'm overweight and don't have the best lung capacity or a universal experience. I also struggle with audibly speaking in an n95 mask, which makes stuff like playing board games with friends difficult. I mask everytime I go out now, but that means skipping all the above listed activities. Which I'm fine with doing to keep myself and others safe, it just feels increasingly that with being triple vaxxed I'm not really keeping anyone much safer by sacrificing these things. I just want clear guideance from public health officials on when such restrictions won't be necessary anymore, why is that to much to ask?
Do you even have kids? Cause if not I’m really not interested in your opinions about what is and isn’t necessary for mine. Cause however much you may have read about what’s safe for kids and thought about what’s right for kids, I guarantee you it’s a fraction of the amount I have (and that’s without even getting into the fact you’ve been provably wrong about some of the shot you’ve been preaching here)
No one wants to wear masks for the rest of our lives. But people are sacrificing a hell of a lot more than you are and watching half the world not give a shit. So there’s really just no patience for your “well actually we need to talk about off ramps” because it’s just not anywhere close to the experience a lot of others are living right now.
Nope, I'm 25. No closer to having kids than I was at 23, because dating is basically impossible if you're taking the pandemic seriously. I have read plenty on vaccine efficacy though, and all the data of that shows that a vaxxed kid has absolutely nothing to worry about from Covid, unless they get extremely extremely unlucky. Whereas the disruption of routine and lack of proper socialization (which I have experienced the young adult version of during this pandemic, not the school child one, but I imagine it's similar), is extremely depressing and more likely to effect a larger percentage of children. Mental health and educational growth have both been severely harmed in kids during this pandemic, suicide rate (especially for girls) is up. I remember back in 2020 when the goal of shutting down schools was to the adults they could transmit to, as it was acknowledged kids were in a low risk bracket. Now we have a nearly perfectly working vaccine (at preventing death) for all 5+, but we're still forcing kids to wear mask and avoid proper social routines... because why? So while I don't have a kid, I can relate to the unfair position kids are being put in rn. The vaccine was supposed to give them their normal education and childhood back, but for some reason it isn't, despite it working incredibly well.
Kids don't get to decide whether or not they are vaccinated. It is one thing to argue that we shouldn't care how lifting safety precautions may negatively affect non-vaccinated adults(even though this is quite problematic), but how can you think this about kids when their vaccination status is completely out of their hands.
Kids don't get to decide whether or not they are vaccinated. It is one thing to argue that we shouldn't care how lifting safety precautions may negatively affect non-vaccinated adults(even though this is quite problematic), but how can you think this about kids when their vaccination status is completely out of their hands.
Strict vax requirement for kids at schools, if the parents don't like it force them to either pay out of their own pocket for a private education/homeschooling or relent. Tired of playing games with these anti-vaxxers, got to take a hardline. Plenty of other vaccines are required for schools, almost every college worth anything requires the Covid vax already.
Kids don't get to decide whether or not they are vaccinated. It is one thing to argue that we shouldn't care how lifting safety precautions may negatively affect non-vaccinated adults(even though this is quite problematic), but how can you think this about kids when their vaccination status is completely out of their hands.
Strict vax requirement for kids at schools, if the parents don't like it force them to either pay out of their own pocket for a private education/homeschooling or relent. Tired of playing games with these anti-vaxxers, got to take a hardline. Plenty of other vaccines are required for schools, almost every college worth anything requires the Covid vax already.
I agree but this is never going to happen in most of the country so you need to move on from that.
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I have my international flight coming up (Saturday-Saturday). My first flight is a few days after all CDC isolation and additional masking recommendations end and the return is a week later (about three weeks after sickness). I also have felt really good for past 5+ days (and my at home on Friday was negative), so I feel as confident as one can be that I will pass the testing requirement to come back into the country. Do you think there is a reason to try to hunt down a "documentation of recovery" to cover my bases? I only have a few days to get this done, so getting an appt somewhere would be hard/expensive and I am not even sure where to start. Thoughts if I should be good or should be trying to find that?
Related, I would love to get some outside thoughts on my sister's travel. She's on the cusp of fully cancelling, but also considering just arriving a few days later to wait out the CDC recommended period and then maybe staying at a hotel rather than staying with us as an extra buffer. Obviously she has lots of things to consider but I am asking for thoughts specifically pertaining to the return too. She would be over 2 weeks at her return, but she is also worried about needing that document, but probably couldn't get it before the trip as there.
TLDR: How long are people generally testing positive on a viral test after contracting COVID? If someone is out of the recommended isolation and masking period (and has been feeling good and symptom free for much longer), is it pretty safe to say that a viral test would test negative? Who knows things about getting a documentation of recovery?
When we were in Fiji we started showing symptoms on Dec 28. Positive PCRs on Dec 29 & Jan 5. Jan 7 PCR came back negative. But I know people can be testing positive 30+ days from their first sign of symptoms. It really just varies person to person.
When do you need to do your departure PCR?
I'm not sure what the US' entry requirements are (or the country you're going to...) but if I were you I'd have the letter of recovery/fit to fly letter. Because the worst case scenario is that they don't let you on the plane, and that's a pretty shit worst case scenario.
This travel group has been incredibly helpful for COVID international travel questions. They can prob point you in the right direction on where to start to get your fit to fly letter. www.facebook.com/groups/687470195328250
That wonderful feeling when work keeps emailing you to make and send in sub plans even tho IT IS THEIR FAULT YOU GOT SICK.
good luck with that y’all
That's why my wife went back before she was ready. She felt guilty about them having to find subs for her and her five days were up. She was struggling to keep up with all of the sub plans (she's a specialist who has four grades coming to her every day). She's been back a week and she should still be home.
So, my cousin is a school nurse and she tested positive officially on Tuesday (so maybe Monday your time?). And they told her to come back to work on Thursday if she's negative. And she did. She's returning to work tomorrow, despite JUST having started showing symptoms on like Saturday or Sunday. It is insane to me that she had symptoms, tested positive, and in under a week is returning to work.
I don't understand y'all's 5 day rule. Here if you're positive you have to isolate for 10 days. And if you're a close contact, you have to isolate for 7 days. Our CLOSE CONTACT iso period is longer than your POSITIVE iso period. It's absolutely bonkers to me how we can have such drastic differences for a disease. It's not like COVID affects Americans differently than Australians, so how are these timeframes based in science??
Honestly, reading yours and EAP 's comments here about how your school districts are treating teachers testing positive is just infuriating. /rant
That's why my wife went back before she was ready. She felt guilty about them having to find subs for her and her five days were up. She was struggling to keep up with all of the sub plans (she's a specialist who has four grades coming to her every day). She's been back a week and she should still be home.
So, my cousin is a school nurse and she tested positive officially on Tuesday (so maybe Monday your time?). And they told her to come back to work on Thursday if she's negative. And she did. She's returning to work tomorrow, despite JUST having started showing symptoms on like Saturday or Sunday. It is insane to me that she had symptoms, tested positive, and in under a week is returning to work.
I don't understand y'all's 5 day rule. Here if you're positive you have to isolate for 10 days. And if you're a close contact, you have to isolate for 7 days. Our CLOSE CONTACT iso period is longer than your POSITIVE iso period. It's absolutely bonkers to me how we can have such drastic differences for a disease. It's not like COVID affects Americans differently than Australians, so how are these timeframes based in science??
Honestly, reading yours and EAP 's comments here about how your school districts are treating teachers testing positive is just infuriating. /rant
My mom is a nurse in a hospital. She had symptoms on Saturday and went for a pcr test Monday morning. While waiting on the results of that, she took a home test Tuesday, which came back positive. She still hasn’t gotten her pcr results, but her supervisor texted her yesterday to say that she could come back today and wear an n95 mask. Didn’t even ask if she was still having symptoms or how she felt or anything.
I really don't need people without children telling me that I need to unmask my kids for their safety and development.
Like, I’m not trying to be one of those “only I know what’s best for my kids” people. I listen to other parents. I listen to teachers. I listen to experts. But some 25 year old telling me “well actually you can just force kids to get vaccinated” is so far removed from the reality of what parents are dealing with it’s insulting.
exactly, theres the whole other elephant in the room of kids who cant get vaxxed due to being immunocompromised or even kids whos shithead republican parents wont let them
I haven't completely caught up because, you know I was at the hospital ALL DAY with my husband that has COVID and I got too mad to continue reading what this fucking asshat is saying about masks and the virus. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? Go fuck yourself.
