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I threw Roth into the mix for a potential run off but at this point, I don’t really think we need to go through with that. I’m in accordance with most of what Potent has pointed out here.
To not understand how locking works as newcomer, that’s pretty fair. But basically everything else in his defense doesn’t make sense to me/doesn’t hold water.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
If you were mafia, and whacked me last night, it would point directly to you because I was the only living person not voting for JTR. Whether or not that's fair, that's what is true.
Edit to add - I voted for you yesterday.
That makes sense to me, and I see how it looks. But consider this y'all. Maybe potent was trying to throw suspicion off of himself yesterday by voting for me, knowing full well we would stone JTR. You were the second to last to vote, so you were watching the way the field would be played among the remaining townspeople. And I was the last to vote, because I was rereading and I was still unsure if JTR was inspector or not. And I'm glad I didn't change my vote because he still could have been lying to protect himself. Meaning that potent might be mafia because JTR only picked people who were still alive and weren't whacked or stoned so he could back up his story.
I don't know why y'all are latching onto potent so hard. I don't know if he's actually mafia or not (to be fair, any of you could be and be delighted with murdering another townsperson), but if he is, you guys are sheep being led by a lion to its den. I've done my best to address the concerns, but I guess I've done all I can do. Tell my family I loved them, and carve the following epitaph on my headstone:
Here lies Travisty, not so keen the town, his head, with rocks did beam innocent of all acts unclean this fact the town had not clearly seen
and now they lie, in graves beside the innocent man, all condemned to die because of potent, who aimed with folly leaving the mafia much, much too jolly
Post by potentpotables on May 27, 2020 15:06:45 GMT -5
I love the poem, but I'm not sure why you are blaming me. There are four people voting for you. You voted for JTR yesterday, expressed mild skepticism, today said you were the only one who expressed any skepticism, which is easily provably false, have voted for three different players today, expressed that you believe JTR as inspector, and then focused on me, a guy who YOUR INSPECTOR said was cleared as town. If you believe JTR, there is no way that you should be voting for me. NO WAY.
I love the poem, but I'm not sure why you are blaming me. There are four people voting for you. You voted for JTR yesterday, expressed mild skepticism, today said you were the only one who expressed any skepticism, which is easily provably false, have voted for three different players today, expressed that you believe JTR as inspector, and then focused on me, a guy who YOUR INSPECTOR said was cleared as town. If you believe JTR, there is no way that you should be voting for me. NO WAY.
My vote is locked.
I was going to make a longer post explaining my vote a little more, but not really needed with Potent's post.
I love the poem, but I'm not sure why you are blaming me. There are four people voting for you. You voted for JTR yesterday, expressed mild skepticism, today said you were the only one who expressed any skepticism, which is easily provably false, have voted for three different players today, expressed that you believe JTR as inspector, and then focused on me, a guy who YOUR INSPECTOR said was cleared as town. If you believe JTR, there is no way that you should be voting for me. NO WAY.
My vote is locked.
Okay, two parter hypothesis here.
1. You're the mafia. I never expressly said I 100% believed JTR was inspector. That's important, because that's mostly what your basing your vote gaining strategy on me for. Which is fair. I know I've choked a bit, and you can really only play the new guy card so much before it seems to wear thin. So altering the perceptions of the townsfolk is easier.
I didn't see open skepticism from you, aside from a different vote, which doesn't mean much. He could have been mafia and you didn't want to vote for your brethren. Or you didn't want to draw attention to yourself down the line by voting for him so it didn't seem like you wanted the potential inspector dead.
2. You're not the mafia. You're right, there are others voting for me. Let's put aside your suspicion of me for a second. Just hear me out. I will say right now that if you kill me tonight, its gonna be tough to figure out which one of the quiet voters is the mafia. They're probably giggling from their murder dungeon, excited that the townsfolk are doing their work for them. Let's back up, work together, and find other possibilities for suspicion.
I can find more suspicious stuff on others here based on the JTR situation.
Rothric votes for JTR first. Believes JTR when he reveals. Wants JTR dead, without being suspicious. Indicates disbelief of inspector claim by saying "Thanks but no thanks", even though he voted for JTR based on an assumption that JTR would be a special role.
I wouldn't mind witching my vote again because I have no idea which one of y'all is either playing me or waiting and watching from the shadows. I urge you all to take another look at everyone left, rather than running off the the assumptions that potent has made.
I can find more suspicious stuff on others here based on the JTR situation.
Rothric votes for JTR first. Believes JTR when he reveals. Wants JTR dead, without being suspicious. Indicates disbelief of inspector claim by saying "Thanks but no thanks", even though he voted for JTR based on an assumption that JTR would be a special role.
Tell me that's not sus.
Huh? That's not what happened at all.
You're really flailing now.
My vote for JTR shows I believed Kanye over JTR. What don't you get?
I can find more suspicious stuff on others here based on the JTR situation.
Rothric votes for JTR first. Believes JTR when he reveals. Wants JTR dead, without being suspicious. Indicates disbelief of inspector claim by saying "Thanks but no thanks", even though he voted for JTR based on an assumption that JTR would be a special role.
Tell me that's not sus.
Huh? That's not what happened at all.
You're really flailing now.
My vote for JTR shows I believed Kanye over JTR. What don't you get?
Sounds like mafia talk to me. Shoot a couple of lines, make it seem like matter of fact, just keep sailing by until you've murdered everyone.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
And of course my most solid town read (Potent) is gone so....gonna need to review Roth and Jaz’s earlier votes & plays tonight. About to watch a movie so might not vote for a few hours.
I feel like Jaz and I typically are pretty mutually distrustful of each other if we are both alive in a D5, but I don’t want to fall down that rabbit hole since it might be absolutely the wrong direction to go this time. Both of y’all are on the quiet side. Neither has done anything outwardly sus or off IMO. I think this will come down to analysis of reviewing the game, especially d1 & 2.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
I've read over the game and feel pretty confident that it's Rothric. I've said previously that I thought Rothric is town, so I'm I thinking they may have left me alive because they thought I'd be more likely to vote for Rummy. But I'm not getting Mafia vibes from Rummy this game, and JTR's vote for Rothric at the end of last round is reading to me like a feeble attempt to distance. I'm not 100% on this, but I feel good about it.
I legitimately don't have a good read on either of you right now.
The only thing I KNOW, is that LD was mafia.
Both of you ended up NOT voting for LD D2. However, Jaz had a vote on LD, then moved it to me on D2. I then moved my vote to LD, a move that kept LD in the game and ultimately got him voted out.
Just hoping the other townie sees this and realizes that I'm town as well.
Still not ready to cast my vote, won't be able to do a full read through and a post of more substance till probably 3 am or so.
I legitimately don't have a good read on either of you right now.
The only thing I KNOW, is that LD was mafia.
Both of you ended up NOT voting for LD D2. However, Jaz had a vote on LD, then moved it to me on D2. I then moved my vote to LD, a move that kept LD in the game and ultimately got him voted out.
Just hoping the other townie sees this and realizes that I'm town as well.
Still not ready to cast my vote, won't be able to do a full read through and a post of more substance till probably 3 am or so.
Yeahhhh so here's how that went down, check the timestamps:
Suspicious of LD and Potent at the moment. Moreso of LD. My moving my vote to Jortles was completely random, so I'm suspicious of the people who piled on. It's not listed in the tally (attn: Jeremy Fragrance ), but Dan and LD were the first to move their votes to him and I couldn't help but notice that they were both on him while they were the other two people in the runoff. That's why I wanted to move my vote back to LD before realizing that it was VERY close to the deadline and moving my vote from Jortles would result in an outright lynch. Potent is lower on my suspicion list, but he moved off and LD and on to Jortles. He may have moved off of Jortles, but if it was a town/town runoff no townie or decent Mafia worth their salt would have stayed on Jortles at that point. I also think Rothric makes a good candidate for the runoff, esp because he received no votes in D1. I am a good candidate for this runoff also, for the same reasons (Jortles voter, didn't receive votes).
I am SO good at stacking unintentionally. I'll move it this time now that we have some info.
Jaz > LD > Rothric
I moved my vote literally immediately after I voted for LD when I saw that I had stacked when I didn't mean to. It's not like I bullshitted around and tried to save him later in the round or anything. Nobody had even posted between the minute that it took for me to notice and revote. While your literal description of my vote move is correct, the context shows that it was basically as if I hadn't voted for LD at all.
I legitimately don't have a good read on either of you right now.
The only thing I KNOW, is that LD was mafia.
Both of you ended up NOT voting for LD D2. However, Jaz had a vote on LD, then moved it to me on D2. I then moved my vote to LD, a move that kept LD in the game and ultimately got him voted out.
Just hoping the other townie sees this and realizes that I'm town as well.
Still not ready to cast my vote, won't be able to do a full read through and a post of more substance till probably 3 am or so.
I see it and agree that if LD was Mafia, you very likely *aren't* with him but in my review of things, I'm just not dead set on the fact that LD was Mafia/that Kanye is Real Inspector. There are holes and questions remaining for me both in scenarios: of JTR as Inspector and as Kanye as Inspector.
As mentioned yesterday, in my mind the by far LEAST likely scenario is that which Kanye is Mafia; I think he either faked as town (and if so, will have some questions for him post-game...) or was real Inspector. At first JTR's reveal seemed like total BS but then he had some good valid points to back it up. Although....now that I think about it, he also had a lot of time to plan/prep that shit if he was faking.
Huh. Ok that's interesting. So normally when a Mafioso fakes as Inspector to counter an existing claim, they've got to think things out on the fly--like, sure, maybe they can buy a little time by not posting *right away* but if they're trying to counter a claim, they've got to act pretty rapidly if they have any hope of people believing the counter. But this was a unique time in which Kanye revealed in the BEGINNING of the nighttime which could've allowed Mafia Team to finesse their Counter Claim really nicely. I gotta admit, I thought some of the Dan quotes that JTR pulled made it seem more believable, but if I was Mafia named at the beginning of N2 and knew I was gonna have to counter, I could probably find some great shit to pull between then and start of D3, too.
Not to mention that something else I keep coming back to is the fact that I just don't really think Mafia would opt to whack what they knew to be a Fake Inspector (if Kanye was faking as town, that is, and thus the LD/JTR names were bullshit) over trying to get rid of Real Inspector N2. In that case, they'd know they're keeping Real Inspector alive to reveal the next day, and if it had been anyone OTHER than JTR, the counter claim would've carried a lot more weight and worth of consideration for Town.
Alright sorry for the brain-to-keyboard working through of things but I think I am feeling confident that JTR was Mafia with LD and that Kanye was our Real Inspector. With that in mind, gonna give things a final once-over.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Bleh but then if I trust that JTR was Mafia with LD because Kanye was Real Inspector, that *does* make me lean away from Roth being the third. But it sucks because I don't find you particularly sus, Jaz--like at all. I just can see it a little better than with Roth.
Am I missing something key here though? It is just hard to imagine that D2 voting would've panned out as it did if Roth/LD/JTR were a Team: Roth went onto JTR then switched over to LD, and JTR switched off of Jaz onto Roth... yes, LD started on Kanye, but god that would've been an unfortunate, and dare I say sorta dumb, series of moves by Mafia Team in D2 to basically push themselves into a Teammate v Teammate final run off there with Roth and LD.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Bleh but then if I trust that JTR was Mafia with LD because Kanye was Real Inspector, that *does* make me lean away from Roth being the third. But it sucks because I don't find you particularly sus, Jaz--like at all. I just can see it a little better than with Roth.
Am I missing something key here though? It is just hard to imagine that D2 voting would've panned out as it did if Roth/LD/JTR were a Team: Roth went onto JTR then switched over to LD, and JTR switched off of Jaz onto Roth... yes, LD started on Kanye, but god that would've been an unfortunate, and dare I say sorta dumb, series of moves by Mafia Team in D2 to basically push themselves into a Teammate v Teammate final run off there with Roth and LD.
That's the one piece that I keep coming back to as well. It stands in stark contrast with your lack of interaction with LD and JTR. You placed no votes on them in Days 1 and 2 and received no votes from them either.
