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the person who told me the date only knew that. nothing else unfortunately. I would imagine if we dont get the announcement of the announcement by 12 today itll be next week
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the person who told me the date only knew that. nothing else unfortunately. I would imagine if we dont get the announcement of the announcement by 12 today itll be next week
Trying to find solace in that they wouldn't have posted on Monday if there was a risk of not dropping the line up this week
I have very high hopes for this lineup, would b nice to get another 2017 situation where they come out with a shockingly good lineup compared to their contemporaries.
Dawes is at least as popular as Rainbow Kitten Surprise or Manchester Orchestra, both of whom played Boston Calling recently.
Dawes averages 675k streams on Spotify per month, compared with 1.6m for Manchester Orchestra and 6.75m for RKS, but okay
Fair point, but aren't ticket sales a better indicator of popularity in a market than Spotify streams which provide a total number of plays around the world? An artist might have a huge footprint in Europe, South America, or Asia, resulting in a lot of play on Spotify, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're a bigger concert attraction in the U.S. than a band without a large international following.
Dawes have drawn solid crowds to shows at the Orpheum and Wang on their last few tours. Maybe not complete sellouts, but 75% of the house. Don't RKS and MO also fall into that "good sized crowd" at 2K-4K capacity venue category, with shows at the House of Blues in recent years?
Plus, singling out a single streaming music platform as determinant of an artist's popularity ignores the reality that you can only get a true read of the popularity of an artist's recorded music by bringing Spotify, Pandora, Apple Music, TIDAL, PONO, YouTube, SiriusXM, and terrestrial radio into the analysis. Different demographic segments of the music listening audience favor some platforms over others; an artist which appeals most strongly to 12-18, 18-34, people with college degrees, or any other demographic group will obviously have better numbers on the platforms which are favored by the people who tend to like their music.
If you're running a phone survey to poll voters before an election, it's important to make sure you're reaching both landlines and mobile phones, because to do otherwise means that your results will be skewed by the exclusion of that portion of the electorate which uses the type of phone that you didn't call. The same principle applies here.
Dawes averages 675k streams on Spotify per month, compared with 1.6m for Manchester Orchestra and 6.75m for RKS, but okay
Fair point, but aren't ticket sales a better indicator of popularity in a market than Spotify streams which provide a total number of plays around the world? An artist might have a huge footprint in Europe, South America, or Asia, resulting in a lot of play on Spotify, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're a bigger concert attraction in the U.S. than a band without a large international following.
Dawes have drawn solid crowds to shows at the Orpheum and Wang on their last few tours. Maybe not complete sellouts, but 75% of the house. Don't RKS and MO also fall into that "good sized crowd" at 2K-4K capacity venue category, with shows at the House of Blues in recent years?
Plus, singling out a single streaming music platform as determinant of an artist's popularity ignores the reality that you can only get a true read of the popularity of an artist's recorded music by bringing Spotify, Pandora, Apple Music, TIDAL, PONO, YouTube, SiriusXM, and terrestrial radio into the analysis. Different demographic segments of the music listening audience favor some platforms over others; an artist which appeals most strongly to 12-18, 18-34, people with college degrees, or any other demographic group will obviously have better numbers on the platforms which are favored by the people who tend to like their music.
If you're running a phone survey to poll voters before an election, it's important to make sure you're reaching both landlines and mobile phones, because to do otherwise means that your results will be skewed by the exclusion of that portion of the electorate which uses the type of phone that you didn't call. The same principle applies here.
sorry but Dawes is faux-americana for the last ailing remnants of Gen X, nobody cares enough to book them for a festival except maybe strum-and-snooze fests like NFF or whatever
I have very high hopes for this lineup, would b nice to get another 2017 situation where they come out with a shockingly good lineup compared to their contemporaries.
It feels like they have the the bones to do it, if they keep Rage/RTJ or even just RTJ at this point they are off to a good start in my book.
I have very high hopes for this lineup, would b nice to get another 2017 situation where they come out with a shockingly good lineup compared to their contemporaries.
It feels like they have the the bones to do it, if they keep Rage/RTJ or even just RTJ at this point they are off to a good start in my book.
I feel like thyeve done a very good job at booking lineups that cut out all the “fat” thats typically in multigenre fests so heres hoping they stick to that. The extra budget from no RHCP should help them a lot
Fair point, but aren't ticket sales a better indicator of popularity in a market than Spotify streams which provide a total number of plays around the world? An artist might have a huge footprint in Europe, South America, or Asia, resulting in a lot of play on Spotify, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they're a bigger concert attraction in the U.S. than a band without a large international following.
Dawes have drawn solid crowds to shows at the Orpheum and Wang on their last few tours. Maybe not complete sellouts, but 75% of the house. Don't RKS and MO also fall into that "good sized crowd" at 2K-4K capacity venue category, with shows at the House of Blues in recent years?
Plus, singling out a single streaming music platform as determinant of an artist's popularity ignores the reality that you can only get a true read of the popularity of an artist's recorded music by bringing Spotify, Pandora, Apple Music, TIDAL, PONO, YouTube, SiriusXM, and terrestrial radio into the analysis. Different demographic segments of the music listening audience favor some platforms over others; an artist which appeals most strongly to 12-18, 18-34, people with college degrees, or any other demographic group will obviously have better numbers on the platforms which are favored by the people who tend to like their music.
If you're running a phone survey to poll voters before an election, it's important to make sure you're reaching both landlines and mobile phones, because to do otherwise means that your results will be skewed by the exclusion of that portion of the electorate which uses the type of phone that you didn't call. The same principle applies here.
sorry but Dawes is faux-americana for the last ailing remnants of Gen X, nobody cares enough to book them for a festival except maybe strum-and-snooze fests like NFF or whatever
the person who told me the date only knew that. nothing else unfortunately. I would imagine if we dont get the announcement of the announcement by 12 today itll be next week
Trying to find solace in that they wouldn't have posted on Monday if there was a risk of not dropping the line up this week
The only likely source of a delay would be if RATM isn't yet clear themselves upon when their tour can begin and are asking festivals at which they're booked to hold off on finalizing their posters/dropping their lineups until then. If they drop out, it'll be a bad look for Boston Calling either way, but much worse if they drop the full poster and RATM drops out a few weeks later.
It would be better to wait a week or two and counter the bad news for many with a strong replacement and overall lineup at the same time.
We arent getting any crossover from beach road, highly doubt thats going to happen.
It is a full three months between Boston Calling and Beach Road. Plus, artists have played Newport Folk and done Boston shows within a few months of each other in recent years, so I wouldn't rule it out entirely.
We arent getting any crossover from beach road, highly doubt thats going to happen.
It is a full three months between Boston Calling and Beach Road. Plus, artists have played Newport Folk and done Boston shows within a few months of each other in recent years, so I wouldn't rule it out entirely.
even so, itd be more likely they make appearances at Solid Sound the same weekend, because that fest books mostly Americana stuff which BC seemed to be pivoting away from in the 2020 lineup aside from Isbell
We arent getting any crossover from beach road, highly doubt thats going to happen.
It is a full three months between Boston Calling and Beach Road. Plus, artists have played Newport Folk and done Boston shows within a few months of each other in recent years, so I wouldn't rule it out entirely.
Looking at 2019 and 2020 line ups, I didnt see a single shared act, not to say it cant happen just seems unlikely
It is a full three months between Boston Calling and Beach Road. Plus, artists have played Newport Folk and done Boston shows within a few months of each other in recent years, so I wouldn't rule it out entirely.
even so, itd be more likely they make appearances at Solid Sound the same weekend, because that fest books mostly Americana stuff which BC seemed to be pivoting away from in the 2020 lineup aside from Isbell
Isbell, Brittany Howard, and Orville Peck...sure, that's around half of what they booked at the previous Harvard editions.
It's never going to be a major part of the Boston Calling mix, but it's always in there.
If Phoebe comes back and bon iver shows up I’ll be one happy boy
those plus Brockhampton, Earl, and one of Disclosure or Flume would be enough for me to be happy. Sudan Archives is an awesome undercard booking too, very excited for her
It is a full three months between Boston Calling and Beach Road. Plus, artists have played Newport Folk and done Boston shows within a few months of each other in recent years, so I wouldn't rule it out entirely.
Looking at 2019 and 2020 line ups, I didnt see a single shared act, not to say it cant happen just seems unlikely
Well, Beach Road 2019 was mainly jam and classic rock. I can't see Boston Calling booking Phil Lesh or John Fogerty. While most multi-genre festivals will throw one classic rock act into the mix each year, Boston Calling has only booked a few acts in its history who were recording and touring before the 90's.
Similarly, last year's Beach Road went heavy on jam, with moe. and Tedeschi Trucks.
It's Beach Road expanding their musical borders that makes it more likely that they will end up sharing an act or two with Boston Calling this year or in the future.
Looking at 2019 and 2020 line ups, I didnt see a single shared act, not to say it cant happen just seems unlikely
Well, Beach Road 2019 was mainly jam and classic rock. I can't see Boston Calling booking Phil Lesh or John Fogerty. While most multi-genre festivals will throw one classic rock act into the mix each year, Boston Calling has only booked a few acts in its history who were recording and touring before the 90's.
Similarly, last year's Beach Road went heavy on jam, with moe. and Tedeschi Trucks.
It's Beach Road expanding their musical borders that makes it more likely that they will end up sharing an act or two with Boston Calling this year or in the future.
have you not noticed Boston Calling also switching up directions? We've been steadily heading towards becoming more of a Gov Ball type festival, losing some of the more unique elements. We might get 1 token americana/folk type act and that's about it
