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i don't really think theorizing about hypothetical replacements is in bad taste. Everyone wishes we weren't in this situation and obviously taylor's death is incredibly tragic and sad... but what else are we supposed to do, not talk about it for a couple of weeks just because it's a sad reason that there's likely a lineup change? can't we feel awful about what happened while also talking about the actual festival situation separately? i mean, if people feel differently then they don't have to participate, i just don't really get it (but i'm also a typical cynical emotionally-disconnected new englander, so i'm probably the asshole here.)
i don't really think theorizing about hypothetical replacements is in bad taste. Everyone wishes we weren't in this situation and obviously taylor's death is incredibly tragic and sad... but what else are we supposed to do, not talk about it for a couple of weeks just because it's a sad reason that there's likely a lineup change? can't we feel awful about what happened while also talking about the actual festival situation separately? i mean, if people feel differently then they don't have to participate, i just don't really get it (but i'm also a typical cynical emotionally-disconnected new englander, so i'm probably the asshole here.)
It's an awkward situation for all involved. It's entirely reasonable for the band and their team to not want to think about when they'll be ready (in any regard) to perform again, but there are four festival headlining spots in April and May, and if they're not going to be able to make those dates, it's only fair to give Beale Street, NOLA Jazz & Heritage, Welcome to Rockville, and Boston Calling enough lead time to book suitable replacement headliners.
It's easy enough to cancel/postpone your own headlining shows on short notice, but there are way more moving parts with festivals.
I can't help wondering whether any of these four festivals are already talking to artists about potential willingness to replace the Foo Fighters on fairly short notice, should it take a few weeks to sort this out. Beale Street is at the end of April, so we're going to know something fairly soon.
(If the Foo Fighters do end up cancelling, I do wonder whether this means we're locked into Foos and Rage as two of the three headliners for 2023. That's fine on paper, but what happens if some unexpected reunions which could be even bigger draws happen next year? If you get a chance at booking a top line of R.E.M., Outkast, and Oasis, you go for it. Similarly, if someone like Beyonce, Taylor Swift, or Ed Sheeran decides to do a festival run beyond the 4 or 5 largest North American festivals, how do you not pursue any of them out of a misplaced sense of duty to replicate the 2020 top line as much as possible? Heck, we could actually wind up with the 2020 top line intact in 2023...and that may not be a good thing, depending upon whom else is on the circuit next year.)
i don't really think theorizing about hypothetical replacements is in bad taste. Everyone wishes we weren't in this situation and obviously taylor's death is incredibly tragic and sad... but what else are we supposed to do, not talk about it for a couple of weeks just because it's a sad reason that there's likely a lineup change? can't we feel awful about what happened while also talking about the actual festival situation separately? i mean, if people feel differently then they don't have to participate, i just don't really get it (but i'm also a typical cynical emotionally-disconnected new englander, so i'm probably the asshole here.)
It's an awkward situation for all involved. It's entirely reasonable for the band and their team to not want to think about when they'll be ready (in any regard) to perform again, but there are four festival headlining spots in April and May, and if they're not going to be able to make those dates, it's only fair to give Beale Street, NOLA Jazz & Heritage, Welcome to Rockville, and Boston Calling enough lead time to book suitable replacement headliners.
It's easy enough to cancel/postpone your own headlining shows on short notice, but there are way more moving parts with festivals.
I can't help wondering whether any of these four festivals are already talking to artists about potential willingness to replace the Foo Fighters on fairly short notice, should it take a few weeks to sort this out. Beale Street is at the end of April, so we're going to know something fairly soon.
(If the Foo Fighters do end up cancelling, I do wonder whether this means we're locked into Foos and Rage as two of the three headliners for 2023. That's fine on paper, but what happens if some unexpected reunions which could be even bigger draws happen next year? If you get a chance at booking a top line of R.E.M., Outkast, and Oasis, you go for it. Similarly, if someone like Beyonce, Taylor Swift, or Ed Sheeran decides to do a festival run beyond the 4 or 5 largest North American festivals, how do you not pursue any of them out of a misplaced sense of duty to replicate the 2020 top line as much as possible? Heck, we could actually wind up with the 2020 top line intact in 2023...and that may not be a good thing, depending upon whom else is on the circuit next year.)
It's an awkward situation for all involved. It's entirely reasonable for the band and their team to not want to think about when they'll be ready (in any regard) to perform again, but there are four festival headlining spots in April and May, and if they're not going to be able to make those dates, it's only fair to give Beale Street, NOLA Jazz & Heritage, Welcome to Rockville, and Boston Calling enough lead time to book suitable replacement headliners.
It's easy enough to cancel/postpone your own headlining shows on short notice, but there are way more moving parts with festivals.
I can't help wondering whether any of these four festivals are already talking to artists about potential willingness to replace the Foo Fighters on fairly short notice, should it take a few weeks to sort this out. Beale Street is at the end of April, so we're going to know something fairly soon.
(If the Foo Fighters do end up cancelling, I do wonder whether this means we're locked into Foos and Rage as two of the three headliners for 2023. That's fine on paper, but what happens if some unexpected reunions which could be even bigger draws happen next year? If you get a chance at booking a top line of R.E.M., Outkast, and Oasis, you go for it. Similarly, if someone like Beyonce, Taylor Swift, or Ed Sheeran decides to do a festival run beyond the 4 or 5 largest North American festivals, how do you not pursue any of them out of a misplaced sense of duty to replicate the 2020 top line as much as possible? Heck, we could actually wind up with the 2020 top line intact in 2023...and that may not be a good thing, depending upon whom else is on the circuit next year.)
Boston Calling is not booking Beyonce
not to defend mr TW12 but i think he was hypothesizing a situation a la Eminem, where he did that random Festival tour in 2018 despite being a stadium level act.
Yup, will be interesting to see who they get. Green Day as said earlier definitely makes the most sense, unless they pull a rabbit our of their hat and get Pearl Jam. I will say if you go look at the RHCP show at Fenway its basically sold out, not a whole lot of tickets left. Curious if that they could reopen the door for them, not that I want that. Selfishly, I hope its Florence.
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I agree that Green Day seems most likely. Wouldn't be surprised if it was Pearl Jam. Maybe Nine Inch Nails? Honestly, they may have to bring back Tame Impala sooner than most of us would like them to.
I'm sure they're going to try their hardest to keep it somewhat genre-adjacent to keep people happy who already bought tickets, but obviously there aren't a ton of options out there so I also wouldn't be surprised if they have to go in another direction.
I do wonder whether this means we're locked into Foos and Rage as two of the three headliners for 2023.
I wouldn’t be quick to put Foos on any mocks at all for the foreseeable future. I’m sure it’s been discussed elsewhere but there’s definitely a non-insignificant chance they’re done for good.
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It's an awkward situation for all involved. It's entirely reasonable for the band and their team to not want to think about when they'll be ready (in any regard) to perform again, but there are four festival headlining spots in April and May, and if they're not going to be able to make those dates, it's only fair to give Beale Street, NOLA Jazz & Heritage, Welcome to Rockville, and Boston Calling enough lead time to book suitable replacement headliners.
It's easy enough to cancel/postpone your own headlining shows on short notice, but there are way more moving parts with festivals.
I can't help wondering whether any of these four festivals are already talking to artists about potential willingness to replace the Foo Fighters on fairly short notice, should it take a few weeks to sort this out. Beale Street is at the end of April, so we're going to know something fairly soon.
(If the Foo Fighters do end up cancelling, I do wonder whether this means we're locked into Foos and Rage as two of the three headliners for 2023. That's fine on paper, but what happens if some unexpected reunions which could be even bigger draws happen next year? If you get a chance at booking a top line of R.E.M., Outkast, and Oasis, you go for it. Similarly, if someone like Beyonce, Taylor Swift, or Ed Sheeran decides to do a festival run beyond the 4 or 5 largest North American festivals, how do you not pursue any of them out of a misplaced sense of duty to replicate the 2020 top line as much as possible? Heck, we could actually wind up with the 2020 top line intact in 2023...and that may not be a good thing, depending upon whom else is on the circuit next year.)
Boston Calling is not booking Beyonce
Probably not, but the principle is the point here: Any desire to reconstruct the 2020 top line in 2023 is less important than booking the best lineup that they can. There may be acts which weren't available to them in 2020 or 2022 whom they may want to pursue.
Yup, will be interesting to see who they get. Green Day as said earlier definitely makes the most sense, unless they pull a rabbit our of their hat and get Pearl Jam. I will say if you go look at the RHCP show at Fenway its basically sold out, not a whole lot of tickets left. Curious if that they could reopen the door for them, not that I want that. Selfishly, I hope its Florence.
Florence just announced yesterday for TD Garden, so she's out.
Yup, will be interesting to see who they get. Green Day as said earlier definitely makes the most sense, unless they pull a rabbit our of their hat and get Pearl Jam. I will say if you go look at the RHCP show at Fenway its basically sold out, not a whole lot of tickets left. Curious if that they could reopen the door for them, not that I want that. Selfishly, I hope its Florence.
The question with booking RHCP is whether there are enough people without Fenway tickets who want to see them or who are such big fans that they'd want to see the same set twice this year for them to be a good booking for this year.
Completely understand their decision - I’m sure the Boston Calling team is working around the clock for that Friday headliner.
I suspected that this would be the case. They've never been a favorite of mine, but I've always respected Dave Grohl's integrity and commitment to his band, his fans, and rock and roll. He doesn't seem like someone who'd want to throw a new lineup together quickly just to make those dates.
Post by Jeremy Fragrance on Mar 29, 2022 17:05:33 GMT -5
Tyler played Worcester on this tour which I guess could cover the Boston area, but his dates are so perfect to make Friday work. He’s doing Forecastle in Kentucky on Sunday before hitting a whole European tour, he could easily add a date in Boston at the start of it
Tyler played Worcester on this tour which I guess could cover the Boston area, but his dates are so perfect to make Friday work. He’s doing Forecastle in Kentucky on Sunday before hitting a whole European tour, he could easily add a date in Boston at the start of it
Tyler would definitely be ideal, also with his mosh pits it should be easy to head over there after being close for Rufus
edit: though, given so many people must have bought friday tix already, id bet you they get a rock act to replace them
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I agree that Green Day seems most likely. Wouldn't be surprised if it was Pearl Jam. Maybe Nine Inch Nails? Honestly, they may have to bring back Tame Impala sooner than most of us would like them to.
I'm sure they're going to try their hardest to keep it somewhat genre-adjacent to keep people happy who already bought tickets, but obviously there aren't a ton of options out there so I also wouldn't be surprised if they have to go in another direction.
I'd be happy with Tame Impala in that spot, especially since I gave away my ticket to see them at the Garden recently, but are there enough people in the Boston area who'd be motivated to pick up tickets to see them at Boston Calling, since most of the diehards saw them in town this month?
That seems like a bigger issue to me than the fact that they played the last edition of the festival in 2019.
FWIW, they're not as big as the headliners Boston Calling usually books now (although arguably as big as The Strokes), but My Morning Jacket is theoretically available (like Pearl Jam, in the middle of a break between tour legs), and they haven't played Boston since three shows in 2015. They're not huge, but all of their local fans will turn out for this, since it's been so long.
Tool's European tour wraps up on the 24th. They sold out the Garden very quickly for their February show, so they'd probably be a safer bet than Tame Impala, in regard to bringing someone back that quickly.
Nine Inch Nails are in the same situation as MMJ; early May to mid June tour break, with Boston Calling right in the middle of that break. It seems so much more likely to me that a band like Tool or Green Day who start or finish a tour leg within a few days of Boston Calling would be more open to adding the date, compared to MMJ, Pearl Jam, or NIN. I'd have to think that at least a couple of members of any band in the middle of a month plus tour break probably have family plans for their time off.
