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Four without votes at this point - Theo, Rummy, Jaz, SFA
Stacking decisions:
LD - didn't stack on Dan Jaz - didn't stack on Dan or Silver Silver - stacked on Dan over Maddog Dan - didn't stack on Silver or Maddog Rummy - didn't stack on Silver/Maddog/Potent Jortles - stacked LD instead of Silver/Maddog/Potent SFA - didn't stack on Silver/Maddog/Potent Maddog - didn't stack on Silver/Potent/LLL
probably good to work through some of the first two lists during the runoff
Originally I was gonna just come out the gate swinging at MD for his shenanigans on D1. Jaz was the main beneficiary for MD trying to boss up, but now we have Jaz voting for MD. Could be a distancing move. Could be Jaz as town being suss of MD as well.
Four without votes at this point - Theo, Rummy, Jaz, SFA
Stacking decisions:
LD - didn't stack on Dan Jaz - didn't stack on Dan or Silver Silver - stacked on Dan over Maddog Dan - didn't stack on Silver or Maddog Rummy - didn't stack on Silver/Maddog/Potent Jortles - stacked LD instead of Silver/Maddog/Potent SFA - didn't stack on Silver/Maddog/Potent Maddog - didn't stack on Silver/Potent/LLL
probably good to work through some of the first two lists during the runoff
Was thinking the same thing--and it seems a good call to throw in the person who is in both these lists.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Post by Jeremy Fragrance on Dec 8, 2020 22:59:41 GMT -5
I have no idea if Jortles is inspector or not, but the whack feels very much like an attempt to get town to vote for Maddog whether or not Jortles is inspector. Also I'm not sure at all about this read but Maddog feels like town to me because it doesn't feel like he's working with other mafia if he is one, he's just going out on his own to try to not die day 1. I feel like in general if someone is doing big moves day 1 they are usually town because it's putting unnecessary attention on yourself if you're mafia. If Jortles is inspector his given name could very likely be either Dan or Maddog, but I personally feel like out of the 2 it's more likely to be Dan than Maddog.
probably good to work through some of the first two lists during the runoff
Was thinking the same thing--and it seems a good call to throw in the person who is in both these lists.
Rums>SFA
In regards to the second list.... I had a revote coming and I was voted for. Out of everything you could base a vote on, being on both these lists seems rather weak. Like you could also argue that the LLL vote is virtually meaningless anyway because it's a given. But within the parameters of that list my name would have been removed after all the original votes were in.
But in general. There are 7 people on those lists. We going to go through all of them? Like I'm sure there's mafia there but we might want to connect some more dots.
Like I could point out that Me, You, Potent and Jaz are all LD voters and I think there's at least a chance the whack could be because the mafia thought he switched off LD voters based on his given name. That seems the most logical after a straightforward whack because of his Dan vote or his hounding of Jimdawg.
Post by potentpotables on Dec 9, 2020 9:56:37 GMT -5
End of D1 count - Jortles/Potent are town, Dan is unknown, Maddog is sketch.
Dan - 6 (Theo, Silver, LLL, LD, Madd g, Jortles)
LD - 5 (Rummy, SFA, Dan, Jaz, Potent)
I still come back to the LD panic move that dropped the runoff from 3 to 2. I understand why Maddog's move was sketchy to people, but I would believe he was just speeding the game up as has been happening in this quarantine year, and expected Dan to also move his vote to create the next runoff. Instead, LD panicked and saved Maddog, putting Dan into the runoff. This is not to blame you, LD, as I may have done the same thing. I think it would have been more prudent to ask the rest of us if anyone wanted to move. If people found Maddog's move sketchy, it would have made sense for someone to move onto Maddog. Currently, all of this gives me a town read on LD.
I think Dan was town - I read his defense of not moving as sincere, and think he would have been slightly more engaged if he were mafia. This helps me justify Maddog's actions and makes me think that Maddog is town, and Jortles was the whack to point at Maddog. I could easily be wrong about that. But there's a lot of action between Dan/LD/Maddog/Jortles that makes me think the Jortles whack is misdirection and that the mafia is trying to make us chase our tail.
If I eliminated Maddog/LD, that gets us to three Dan voters (along with 3 LD voters) whose status I'm unsure of, and 3 of those would need to be mafia. I find it notable that LLL and SFA chose LD and Dan over Jaz in the D1 runoff. SFA did come out and vote Jaz at the beginning of this day, so that explains that away a bit. There hasn't been much talk about how Jaz escaped the runoff relatively scot free because of all the talk about how Maddog escaped the runoff. This could have been coincidence for Jaz of course, I don't know.
Because of my reads, I prefer a runoff of Dan voters. Silver already has a vote and Maddog is probably going to advance, so I'm going to vote for LLL.
End of D1 count - Jortles/Potent are town, Dan is unknown, Maddog is sketch.
Dan - 6 (Theo, Silver, LLL, LD, Madd g, Jortles)
LD - 5 (Rummy, SFA, Dan, Jaz, Potent)
I still come back to the LD panic move that dropped the runoff from 3 to 2. I understand why Maddog's move was sketchy to people, but I would believe he was just speeding the game up as has been happening in this quarantine year, and expected Dan to also move his vote to create the next runoff. Instead, LD panicked and saved Maddog, putting Dan into the runoff. This is not to blame you, LD, as I may have done the same thing. I think it would have been more prudent to ask the rest of us if anyone wanted to move. If people found Maddog's move sketchy, it would have made sense for someone to move onto Maddog. Currently, all of this gives me a town read on LD.
I think Dan was town - I read his defense of not moving as sincere, and think he would have been slightly more engaged if he were mafia. This helps me justify Maddog's actions and makes me think that Maddog is town, and Jortles was the whack to point at Maddog. I could easily be wrong about that. But there's a lot of action between Dan/LD/Maddog/Jortles that makes me think the Jortles whack is misdirection and that the mafia is trying to make us chase our tail.
If I eliminated Maddog/LD, that gets us to three Dan voters (along with 3 LD voters) whose status I'm unsure of, and 3 of those would need to be mafia. I find it notable that LLL and SFA chose LD and Dan over Jaz in the D1 runoff. SFA did come out and vote Jaz at the beginning of this day, so that explains that away a bit. There hasn't been much talk about how Jaz escaped the runoff relatively scot free because of all the talk about how Maddog escaped the runoff. This could have been coincidence for Jaz of course, I don't know.
Because of my reads, I prefer a runoff of Dan voters. Silver already has a vote and Maddog is probably going to advance, so I'm going to vote for LLL.
Potent > LLL
Wait, am I reading this wrong here, or are you stating that you think all three Maf HAVE to have been Dan voters? You don't think one of them could be on LD?
Or do you mean that between the three Dan voters and three LD voters whose status you feel unsure of, that group of six has to comprise the Maf Team? This comment would make a lot more sense haha, but I just want to clarify because the way it is written is a bit confusing.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
End of D1 count - Jortles/Potent are town, Dan is unknown, Maddog is sketch.
Dan - 6 (Theo, Silver, LLL, LD, Madd g, Jortles)
LD - 5 (Rummy, SFA, Dan, Jaz, Potent)
I still come back to the LD panic move that dropped the runoff from 3 to 2. I understand why Maddog's move was sketchy to people, but I would believe he was just speeding the game up as has been happening in this quarantine year, and expected Dan to also move his vote to create the next runoff. Instead, LD panicked and saved Maddog, putting Dan into the runoff. This is not to blame you, LD, as I may have done the same thing. I think it would have been more prudent to ask the rest of us if anyone wanted to move. If people found Maddog's move sketchy, it would have made sense for someone to move onto Maddog. Currently, all of this gives me a town read on LD.
I think Dan was town - I read his defense of not moving as sincere, and think he would have been slightly more engaged if he were mafia. This helps me justify Maddog's actions and makes me think that Maddog is town, and Jortles was the whack to point at Maddog. I could easily be wrong about that. But there's a lot of action between Dan/LD/Maddog/Jortles that makes me think the Jortles whack is misdirection and that the mafia is trying to make us chase our tail.
If I eliminated Maddog/LD, that gets us to three Dan voters (along with 3 LD voters) whose status I'm unsure of, and 3 of those would need to be mafia. I find it notable that LLL and SFA chose LD and Dan over Jaz in the D1 runoff. SFA did come out and vote Jaz at the beginning of this day, so that explains that away a bit. There hasn't been much talk about how Jaz escaped the runoff relatively scot free because of all the talk about how Maddog escaped the runoff. This could have been coincidence for Jaz of course, I don't know.
Because of my reads, I prefer a runoff of Dan voters. Silver already has a vote and Maddog is probably going to advance, so I'm going to vote for LLL.
Potent > LLL
Wait, am I reading this wrong here, or are you stating that you think all three Maf HAVE to have been Dan voters? You don't think one of them could be on LD?
Or do you mean that between the three Dan voters and three LD voters whose status you feel unsure of, that group of six has to comprise the Maf Team? This comment would make a lot more sense haha, but I just want to clarify because the way it is written is a bit confusing.
Sorry for the confusion, I was trying to write this during a zoom meeting, probably not a great idea.
I meant the 3 dan voters I identified, plus the 3 LD voters - a pool of 6 for me. I could be wrong, obviously, but that's where I want to go at this moment.
End of D1 count - Jortles/Potent are town, Dan is unknown, Maddog is sketch.
Dan - 6 (Theo, Silver, LLL, LD, Madd g, Jortles)
LD - 5 (Rummy, SFA, Dan, Jaz, Potent)
I still come back to the LD panic move that dropped the runoff from 3 to 2. I understand why Maddog's move was sketchy to people, but I would believe he was just speeding the game up as has been happening in this quarantine year, and expected Dan to also move his vote to create the next runoff. Instead, LD panicked and saved Maddog, putting Dan into the runoff. This is not to blame you, LD, as I may have done the same thing. I think it would have been more prudent to ask the rest of us if anyone wanted to move. If people found Maddog's move sketchy, it would have made sense for someone to move onto Maddog. Currently, all of this gives me a town read on LD.
I think Dan was town - I read his defense of not moving as sincere, and think he would have been slightly more engaged if he were mafia. This helps me justify Maddog's actions and makes me think that Maddog is town, and Jortles was the whack to point at Maddog. I could easily be wrong about that. But there's a lot of action between Dan/LD/Maddog/Jortles that makes me think the Jortles whack is misdirection and that the mafia is trying to make us chase our tail.
If I eliminated Maddog/LD, that gets us to three Dan voters (along with 3 LD voters) whose status I'm unsure of, and 3 of those would need to be mafia. I find it notable that LLL and SFA chose LD and Dan over Jaz in the D1 runoff. SFA did come out and vote Jaz at the beginning of this day, so that explains that away a bit. There hasn't been much talk about how Jaz escaped the runoff relatively scot free because of all the talk about how Maddog escaped the runoff. This could have been coincidence for Jaz of course, I don't know.
Because of my reads, I prefer a runoff of Dan voters. Silver already has a vote and Maddog is probably going to advance, so I'm going to vote for LLL.
I know this is gonna sound weird coming from me, but I'm on a similar wavelength to Potent. I know, I know.
I think Dan was town. Jortles was most likely town. I believe one or two Dan voters should be in this runoff.
But I keep going back to last round. Maddog, I'm not sure of yet. But certainly the beneficiary of his move was Jaz, and nobody came over to push Jaz in a runoff in MD's place.
Wait, am I reading this wrong here, or are you stating that you think all three Maf HAVE to have been Dan voters? You don't think one of them could be on LD?
Or do you mean that between the three Dan voters and three LD voters whose status you feel unsure of, that group of six has to comprise the Maf Team? This comment would make a lot more sense haha, but I just want to clarify because the way it is written is a bit confusing.
Sorry for the confusion, I was trying to write this during a zoom meeting, probably not a great idea.
I meant the 3 dan voters I identified, plus the 3 LD voters - a pool of 6 for me. I could be wrong, obviously, but that's where I want to go at this moment.
Thx for clarifying, that certainly makes more sense than the other option (that you were saying all three Maf had to be Dan voters).
2-1 Maf vote split is most common D1, though ofc we have seen 3-0 at times too. But for you to jump to idea that it HAD to be 3-0 would've been more than a little odd lol
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Might be a complete misdirect but might not be either. It's worth a vote, at least.
Jaz > Maddog
shoes flipped I'd 100% be advocating for me to at least be involved so I'm not worried too much.
this is also to say that I knew I was going in so I'm definitely planning on seeing where everyone ends up before I vote. I'll try not to do it too close to the deadline
shoes flipped I'd 100% be advocating for me to at least be involved so I'm not worried too much.
this is also to say that I knew I was going in so I'm definitely planning on seeing where everyone ends up before I vote. I'll try not to do it too close to the deadline
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
If Jortles isn’t inspector I wonder if the inspector guessed Maddog and got it wrong
Circling back to this--certainly is possible. Am curious though, what is it specifically that made you posit this scenario ?
Just throwing ideas out there. Everything about mafia's play last night felt like an attempt to frame Maddog to me, because his actions on D1 gave me more of a town read on him than most other people. Part of that frame is trying to get the inspector to make a guess on a town
g, Jortles)