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- Fully realized concept that would be easy to market: American artists performing for a universally liked American cause. No perceived divisive agenda, and something for every demographic at home to enjoy - Huge reunions that would bring in tons of money and viewers (Creedence Clerwater Revival, N.W.A, R.E.M) - Every act except the day openers can play arenas or bigger on their own - First broadcasted Frank Ocean performance ever (I think) - My Chemical Romance sold 228,600 tickets in 6 hours when they announced their 2020 tour that was cancelled, don't forget - Dave Chappelle might be one of the most respected/liked people in the country right now IMO. At this point a Chappelle monologue is must-watch TV, a full set would do crazy numbers - First Fiona Apple performance after a hugely celebrated album - The Chicks and Sturgill Simpson bring in a huge country audience and they don't suck - All exclusive acts except Cardi B, which I think should count for something. Also Cardi B sold more tickets than Garth Brooks at the Houston Rodeo, just saying.
I sort of don't buy Talking Heads as a huge ticket mover.
assuming if they came back the only arenas they could really sell out would be MSG, maybe staples, but I think it would make more sense for them/fans to do like a radio city/greek run of shows.
*maybe also something like United
Yeah, don't see it this way. Not only have the Heads not played a show since 1984, but they didn't even play that many shows when they did tour. For a one-off show, they could quickly sell out a stadium. There's 30-40 years of fans that have never seen them play a show
3 Platinum albums (honestly more than I thought, but one live), very little in way of hit singles
I think the difference in crowd between a byrne show and a heads show isn't even close to a plant/zep difference.
- Fully realized concept that would be easy to market: American artists performing for a universally liked American cause. No perceived divisive agenda, and something for every demographic at home to enjoy - Huge reunions that would bring in tons of money and viewers (Creedence Clerwater Revival, N.W.A, R.E.M) - Every act except the day openers can play arenas or bigger on their own - First broadcasted Frank Ocean performance ever (I think) - My Chemical Romance sold 228,600 tickets in 6 hours when they announced their 2020 tour that was cancelled, don't forget - Dave Chappelle might be one of the most respected/liked people in the country right now IMO. At this point a Chappelle monologue is must-watch TV, a full set would do crazy numbers - First Fiona Apple performance after a hugely celebrated album - The Chicks and Sturgill Simpson bring in a huge country audience and they don't suck - All exclusive acts except Cardi B, which I think should count for something. Also Cardi B sold more tickets than Garth Brooks at the Houston Rodeo, just saying.
Yeah, don't see it this way. Not only have the Heads not played a show since 1984, but they didn't even play that many shows when they did tour. For a one-off show, they could quickly sell out a stadium. There's 30-40 years of fans that have never seen them play a show
3 Platinum albums (honestly more than I thought, but one live), very little in way of hit singles
I think the difference in crowd between a byrne show and a heads show isn't even close to a plant/zep difference.
yeah I mean Zepp would probably be the best selling show. I just don’t know how good it would be now, but no one would so they would def still buy tix.
- Fully realized concept that would be easy to market: American artists performing for a universally liked American cause. No perceived divisive agenda, and something for every demographic at home to enjoy - Huge reunions that would bring in tons of money and viewers (Creedence Clerwater Revival, N.W.A, R.E.M) - Every act except the day openers can play arenas or bigger on their own - First broadcasted Frank Ocean performance ever (I think) - My Chemical Romance sold 228,600 tickets in 6 hours when they announced their 2020 tour that was cancelled, don't forget - Dave Chappelle might be one of the most respected/liked people in the country right now IMO. At this point a Chappelle monologue is must-watch TV, a full set would do crazy numbers - First Fiona Apple performance after a hugely celebrated album - The Chicks and Sturgill Simpson bring in a huge country audience and they don't suck - All exclusive acts except Cardi B, which I think should count for something. Also Cardi B sold more tickets than Garth Brooks at the Houston Rodeo, just saying.
- Fully realized concept that would be easy to market: American artists performing for a universally liked American cause. No perceived divisive agenda, and something for every demographic at home to enjoy - Huge reunions that would bring in tons of money and viewers (Creedence Clerwater Revival, N.W.A, R.E.M) - Every act except the day openers can play arenas or bigger on their own - First broadcasted Frank Ocean performance ever (I think) - My Chemical Romance sold 228,600 tickets in 6 hours when they announced their 2020 tour that was cancelled, don't forget - Dave Chappelle might be one of the most respected/liked people in the country right now IMO. At this point a Chappelle monologue is must-watch TV, a full set would do crazy numbers - First Fiona Apple performance after a hugely celebrated album - The Chicks and Sturgill Simpson bring in a huge country audience and they don't suck - All exclusive acts except Cardi B, which I think should count for something. Also Cardi B sold more tickets than Garth Brooks at the Houston Rodeo, just saying.
I think what’s hard about voting for popularity is how to balance the headliner vs undercard. The Japan lineup has BTS, ABBA, and Rihanna, three massive acts, but then has some pretty small acts in the undercard.
Edit: not considering my own, the only lineup that seems like it has to move on is the WHO lineup. No other sure things imo
I think what’s hard about voting for popularity is how to balance the headliner vs undercard. The Japan lineup has BTS, ABBA, and Rihanna, three massive acts, but then has some pretty small acts in the undercard.
Edit: not considering my own, the only lineup that seems like it has to move on is the WHO lineup. No other sure things imo
I feel like you might be slightly underestimating the size of some of those international undercard acts
I think what’s hard about voting for popularity is how to balance the headliner vs undercard. The Japan lineup has BTS, ABBA, and Rihanna, three massive acts, but then has some pretty small acts in the undercard.
Edit: not considering my own, the only lineup that seems like it has to move on is the WHO lineup. No other sure things imo
I feel like you might be slightly underestimating the size of some of those international undercard acts
Nah I’m talking about the knife and justice mostly. The others are international I get that. The knife plays like the house of blues size venues.
Post by Jeremy Fragrance on Jan 25, 2021 22:51:15 GMT -5
Oasis - Massive reunion, probably stadium level
One Direction - Another massive reunion, absolutely stadium level. Also a lot of you seem to like Harry now
Talking Heads - Already been discussed quite a bit
J Balvin - One of the biggest names in music currently, you're kidding yourself if you don't think a stadium in Spain wouldn't sell out with him there
Beastie Boys - ZDLR replacing MCA, first show since like 2009
Kate Bush - Played like 1 show since 1990, even though she might not have stadium level appeal on her own there's tons of people that would tune in for her show
The Cure - Fest headliner, always put on a good show and is pretty big in Spain
Karol G - Pretty huge reggaeton act, international appeal galore
Chloe x Halle - Up and coming act, lots of grammy noms this year, wide appeal
Anderson .Paak - Puts on an incredible show, not the biggest name but I personally feel fits in great into the schedule
New Order - Also fits into the run very well
The Cat Empire - the best band in the world, gets those crucial extra 4 viewers from Australia that otherwise wouldn't have turned on the teleton
I feel like you might be slightly underestimating the size of some of those international undercard acts
Nah I’m talking about the knife and justice mostly. The others are international I get that. The knife plays like the house of blues size venues.
The Knife haven't played a show in six years and were number two on their day at Coachella in 2014. I think they're ok for being basically the smallest thing on the lineup, aside from Kidjo.
WHO didn't fuck around, only drafter to pick 12 headliners, I was hoping more lineups would end up looking like that 🤷♂️
Edit: Lil Pumpkin and Ligmathon came pretty close though, I feel like those are also locks to move on
if that was the only goal, you would’ve seen more but there’s a balance to it. No point trying super hard to get through the first round if you’re just gonna get steamrolled next round.
Post by trantsgiving on Jan 25, 2021 23:06:31 GMT -5
Zack is a great rapper but he doesn’t really blend with Beasties imo. He’s not really that goofy and practically all the parts that are more tailored to his voice (Sabotage, etc) are already being done by Ad Rock. Plus, a Beasties live show was all about the chemistry. It was just a ton of fun to watch 3 best friends of 30 years goof around.
WHO didn't fuck around, only drafter to pick 12 headliners, I was hoping more lineups would end up looking like that 🤷♂️
Edit: Lil Pumpkin and Ligmathon came pretty close though, I feel like those are also locks to move on
if that was the only goal, you would’ve seen more but there’s a balance to it. No point trying super hard to get through the first round if you’re just gonna get steamrolled next round.
I'm gonna phrase the next question in a way that size is still important wrt quality
I feel like I sell out a stadium no question. two of the biggest bands ever, two of the biggest pop acts now, two of the biggest international acts (which imo no international acts is a kill shot for this), two big following hip hop acts, two elusive big americana acts to open, and two big in their field rock acts. everything under 20 million spotify is either a reunion, rare, or the Pink Floyd
I feel like I sell out a stadium no question. two of the biggest bands ever, two of the biggest pop acts now, two of the biggest international acts (which imo no international acts is a kill shot for this), two big following hip hop acts, two elusive big americana acts to open, and two big in their field rock acts. everything under 20 million spotify is either a reunion, rare, or the Pink Floyd
I mean, every single one of these lineups sells out a stadium, no doubt about it. The question is, what gets the viewers who couldn't be there to tune in? (I voted for yours)
can't imagine a moment in this tourney making more money than watching Paul and ringo play hey jude for the first time in 60 years with Lynne doing the harmony while the casuals are like this song is about Sean Lennon
*idk could be when all the nebraska father's hear Dawn Chorus for the first time and break down in tears
can't imagine a moment in this tourney making more money than watching Paul and ringo play hey jude for the first time in 60 years with Lynne doing the harmony while the casuals are like this song is about Sean Lennon
*idk could be when all the nebraska father's hear Dawn Chorus for the first time and break down in tears
I think Jeff Lynne and Sean Lennon aren't nearly as influential in Nebraska as you think they are.
