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Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Feb 6, 2022 8:01:00 GMT -5
Some of this is self-preservation/not voting for self. But it is interesting that the same group of folks have voting together the last round of each day, both days. I don't usually put too much stock in this pattern until later in the game, but because it is consistently it may be worth noting now. I don't usually see this line up like this.
Roo Dan LLL Otter Pablo
Potent Rummy Browell Jortles MD (Dead)
First day Browell and Otter fell out of the run-off. Otter fell out because of Silver and Jortles switching to Roo. Browell fell out when MD switched to Roo.
If Roo is Mafia, I doubt Jortles is one of his partners. If MD was mafia, def chance that Browell ia a partner. Browell has consistently voted with Rummy, Potent, Jortles and MD voted with that group as well.
Second day runoff LLL sort of fell out, initially had two votes that went elsewhere in the middle of round one (Pablo and Dan, who have also consistently voted together) Rummy looks like she is falling out, due to vote changes from LLL, Pablo and Jortles. Otter looks like he is falling out, in spite of vote change from Jortles on to him.
I would doubt Browell to be partners with LLL and Pablo due to the vote changes on to him. I would doubt Otter to be partners with Jortles.
Not sure if that even helped me make heads or tails of things.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Some of this is self-preservation/not voting for self. But it is interesting that the same group of folks have voting together the last round of each day, both days. I don't usually put too much stock in this pattern until later in the game, but because it is consistently it may be worth noting now. I don't usually see this line up like this.
Roo Dan LLL Otter Pablo
Potent Rummy Browell Jortles MD (Dead)
First day Browell and Otter fell out of the run-off. Otter fell out because of Silver and Jortles switching to Roo. Browell fell out when MD switched to Roo.
If Roo is Mafia, I doubt Jortles is one of his partners. If MD was mafia, def chance that Browell ia a partner. Browell has consistently voted with Rummy, Potent, Jortles and MD voted with that group as well.
Second day runoff LLL sort of fell out, initially had two votes that went elsewhere in the middle of round one (Pablo and Dan, who have also consistently voted together) Rummy looks like she is falling out, due to vote changes from LLL, Pablo and Jortles. Otter looks like he is falling out, in spite of vote change from Jortles on to him.
I would doubt Browell to be partners with LLL and Pablo due to the vote changes on to him. I would doubt Otter to be partners with Jortles.
Not sure if that even helped me make heads or tails of things.
I enjoyed the use of referring to yourself in the third person here.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I def see ties here with Rummy, Browell and MD. IF MD was Mafia, (an if, obviously) I could see this being the Mafia team. We are already on Browell, who is on your list. What is making you want to switch to Rummy? I think both of them have been playing differently from the last game, and I see that their posts/banter kind of lined up the first day + and their voting does too. I didn't really like the way that Rummy was being piled on at the beginning of this day, however. It seems like something that happens a lot when she isn't Mafia. So that made me second guess my vote on her. Do you have a reason she may be a better choice here than Browell?
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I def see ties here with Rummy, Browell and MD. IF MD was Mafia, (an if, obviously) I could see this being the Mafia team. We are already on Browell, who is on your list. What is making you want to switch to Rummy? I think both of them have been playing differently from the last game, and I see that their posts/banter kind of lined up the first day + and their voting does too. I didn't really like the way that Rummy was being piled on at the beginning of this day, however. It seems like something that happens a lot when she isn't Mafia. So that made me second guess my vote on her. Do you have a reason she may be a better choice here than Browell?
Like I said, don't really feel strongly about one over the other. Either is fine with me. Hard to judge Browell given this is his second game and I didn't play last game (but I read along). Trying to think of how eliminating either would leave us for D3. Probably best to just leave it how it is given the amount of changes we'd need, and I suppose Browell is more of a wildcard so maybe better to eliminate him first
I def see ties here with Rummy, Browell and MD. IF MD was Mafia, (an if, obviously) I could see this being the Mafia team. We are already on Browell, who is on your list. What is making you want to switch to Rummy? I think both of them have been playing differently from the last game, and I see that their posts/banter kind of lined up the first day + and their voting does too. I didn't really like the way that Rummy was being piled on at the beginning of this day, however. It seems like something that happens a lot when she isn't Mafia. So that made me second guess my vote on her. Do you have a reason she may be a better choice here than Browell?
your intuition is correct here: I was piled on bc I’m town & the Bros just love using me as a scapegoat. Getting pretty old tbh.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Has a correlation between who has voted last, those with no votes and Mafia been found? I was wondering this last game. I did look at the last few games, and I can't find much rhyme or reason to it. It goes from 1 Mafia with a final 4 vote and one with votes on them, to 2 Mafia with a final vote and 2 with votes on them, to no Mafia voting in the final 4 and 2 with votes on them, to 1 Mafia in the final 4 and all 3 Mafia with votes on the. I'm just not seeing a pattern, but I only looked at a handful of games. Trying to decide if this is something I should be considering as I play out the game. I am always in the last 4 votes, as it turns out, regardless of role.
One thing that I did note when I read all through those old games during last game is that we are more likely to have two Mafia in first round run-off if we have 4 or 5 folks in the run-off. The last 7 non special games, we had at least one Mafia in every first round run-off. If we had 4 or more people in the run off, 4 out of the 6 times we had 2 Mafia in there. Everyone knows this, but it was interesting to see the numbers back it up, even if the sample size is small.
Picking any 4 players at random likely has 1 maf in it by pure odds
I agree - this trend toward "sniping" on D1 really kinda irritates me (and not just because I was an innocent bystander getting sniped last game).
I don’t really have an issue with sniping (I’ve done it plenty), just seems weird that multiple people are talking like they have real reads and things to go off of. Will be interesting to look back on
i'll tell ya why - because i did my initial scroll of his quoted posts before my coffee has kicked in, and i misread otter>MD as MD>otter
read: i am dumb
rummy>null lmao sorry, am trying to multitask with a couple work things right now so need to come back to this at my lunch break to actually pay attention and vote properly
You don't find it odd that the whack votes for Otter and then Jortles immediately moves to save him? I find that odd. Also, we know that *usually* we have a maf in the first runoff, and the people who fall out of the runoffs are good candidates.
I'm convincing myself to vote Otter, so I'll do that.
Potent > Otter
What do you think of my post last page about his switch to mad dog pointing to Pablo and LLL? If otter was silvers giving seems weird he would switch off him
I think it's hard to figure out why a potential inspector does things. Maybe Silver felt like he wanted to back off a given? Maybe Silver accidentally stumbled on a non given? Maybe Otter is town? Maybe Silver is not inspector?
There's lots of reasons I'd buy. I think at this point we're all grasping for anything.
Ya also have in the back of my mind that it’s possible no one really mentioned a maf and they just went for silver bc he was quiet
You loving that? I see it. It’s not a stretch but idk. Does Pablo or LLL really get scared when they see that switch and decide to wack based on it?
How are you feeling about Potent on a gut level after my back and forth with him?
I guess not loving it, but not sure what other direction to go in. If maf wasn’t really namedropped a lot yesterday it makes sense since they’d be grasping at straws for the whack.
Potent I’m unknown, don’t think he’s the move today regardless
Now that I think about it mad dog being maf could also make sense for the silver whack. Not sure I think that’s likely but something to keep back of mind
lmao for two guys who like to call out other people seeming "too chummy" and "too friendly" together in games, what the hell is this cutesy back n forth convo?
also very odd to me that danny says "now that i think about it....huh, maybe silv whack could point to MD" when that's overtly the thing that makes most sense. he only just now calibrated this fact?
idk this whole exchange feels weird to me
Overtly? Just because it’s the first thing that came to your mind doesn’t mean it’s overt
i see that you're also pointing to LLL/pablo as potentials for *why* Silv switched his vote, but are you telling me that alongside this, you don't also see that the maf team could've easily perceived that as Silv specifically wanting to go ONTO maddog?
just don't quite understand how you see one possibility so quickly and not the other.
I know Pablo and LLL make the most sense based on the whack, but there are some sketchy characters floating around. I'm fine with one of those two but on a gut level neither of them are cracking my top 4 sus list.
I truly don't get how Silver changing his vote TWO DAYS after mine, in THE NEXT ROUND, to reshape the run-off after MD voted for Browell and forced the top 3 in the runoff to be Browell,Otter,Roo-Silver then tosses MD back in there as a top 3. Not sure how that points to me as making the most sense when he gets whacked. I can see it as something folks would have to consider and keep us on the radar, but I def don't see it as "the most sense". To me it looks like MD is the most sense as suspect number one and that we should be looking at who looks most attached to him.
oh absolutely. and always sucks to be town and know the people pushing you forward are either misguided townies or maf with an agenda, but of course no one but myself knows this to be true.
theres no reason JTR should've had to extend this - everyone has checked in and should've placed votes in time. and here we are currently with a runoff with only two people, both of which the whack doesn't even really point to at all. gr8 work so far.
theres been quite a lot of talk around otter to have him at just a single vote right now/not set to advance.
i think not having LLL *or* Pablo go forward is also strange given the whack. hence my being on Pablo.
That was kinda where I was but LLL and Pablo were both rooloo voters (basically ending the day voting with silver) so if he switched to avoid one of them why wouldn’t he do it again? Wouldn’t whacking silver implicate the MD voters as pointed out by LLL? Otter I don’t see as connected to the whack since silver switch off of him which idk if he would do if otter was given
yeah, they were both rooloo voters but we all know there was more than likely a split so it isn't as if MD being maf (if he was) means that LLL or Pablo weren't a maf member voting opposite him. but your logic ain't wrong. i wish i werent in the D1 Otter Voters Sus Pool, but it is what it is. if MD was maf, there was likely another maf with him on otter; there also was likely one on MD himself.
re the bolded: yeah, i dont see otter tied to the whack either, hence why i moved to null after reading silver's quoted posts wrong initially. but others have talked about him a fair amount, thinking he seems a lil sus and i think it was potent who mentioned that folks who fall out of the d1 runoff can be a good place to look. so i just find it interesting that hes only at the one vote, is all. the mass of single votes on people in general is strange/annoying... i will move if i have to but would appreciate someone joining me on pablo.
Not sure I’m following. If the argument is LLL and Pablo Should be looked at because they were on otter and silver switched because of that, then why would he be fine ultimately voting alongside them at the end of the day?
yeah im not articulating my thoughts well at all. i need to reconsider posting when i can only give half attention to the game (e.g. during my work day if it's busy) but right now the deadline is coming up so im trying to be present where i can but it isnt with full attention.
the reality is that the whack can be interpreted a host of different ways because there isnt one clear direction to follow (silv didnt post much and outside of that vote switch, not much thats tangible is relevant to look at), and so it makes sense folks are going different ways with it. but since im sus of pablo already, for similar reasons that rooloo just cited, it even makes me wonder about the "H" post. i doubt that mafia would whack someone for naming the first letter of a maf member's name but who fucking knows lol
i moved to otter *to appease* someone else bc as of right now i think he might be town (potent) -- even though you (dan) were an option, and i couldve moved to you instead but im trying to play as a team.
and how is raising your name an act of self preservation at all? honestly kind of reminds me of last game when i raised suspicions of jortles (who was mafia) when others weren't sus of him, knowing that it would look bad on me but opting to do it anyway bc i felt my read was on the right track
if i cared merely about self preservation, i wouldve silently moved somewhere that i think already has traction & that wouldve been that.
it's all good, dude - i really ought to be working right now myself but this game is about halfway to breaking my psyche, and i feel like no better time than the present to lose one's townie shit on all the absurdity that has gone down.
Top Jesters are Pablo and Dan. idk what jortles is doing - he def might be town, but i think his choice to get me into the runoff over the other options is very strange. i would think a townie jortles would read my legit frustrations right now as, in fact, legit/genuine. i imagine you do. i hope you do.
specifically i'd love to hear your thoughts on 1) dan's reply to my mentioning suspicions of him before the round ended, (namely, his claim that i was trying to self preserve - if this is is me as maf with an attempt at self preservation, i dont think i could possibly be worse at it...), and 2) pablo finally deciding to join us wherein he just states "rummy is full of shit" without referencing what or how or why, and then voting me but saying he's sus of browell too who IMO seems townie for sure)
Self preservation can be done as town, never called u mafia
This post fails to account for the fact that one of the few things one could reasonably point to from the whack is that it points away from me.
Slight aside, but I also still think it’s weird and worth pointing out that no one else even mentioned that Dan said he was mafia. I think this is worth feeling out moving forward.
didnt mean to ignore you/this - just got caught up defending being called pathetic, etc etc.
1. i was riled up. it might've been "wrong person, right time" sort of thing where i was annoyed that basically no one was in thread trying to work shit out with me to create an actually-useful runoff (this one IS NOT USEFUL - it is two people we had in d1 plus me, who if people dont see as chaotic/frustrated townie, idk what to say...who would i even be mafia with?! oh right, my fellow cat, how could i forget)... but his response to me did rub me in the wrong way similar to when Maf Jortles tried to flip shit around on me last game when i called out suspicions of him. idk, i don't want to fall down the rabbit hole too much right now and dan isn't sus enemy number 1 or 2 for me, but ive got my eye on him for sure. i feel like he tends to be a bit more chill/go-with-the-flow when maf, and he's seemed like that this game. we had our tiff but then he backed off...compared to last game, as town, we had a tiff and he did NOT back down from it
2. pablo is so fucking sus, i dont get this
3. im on otter. it seems the best way to go of the piss poor options we have here. why jortles/otter for you as top sussies?
The difference between this game and last game for me “backing down” or whatever is I was trying to defend from getting exiled. Here I’m not at risk and honestly don’t feel like going back and forth on your gut read of me (which is lame you’re using jortles behavior last game and extrapolating it to me). You’re certainly flailing but for what it’s worth I think you’re town
Post by potentpotables on Feb 7, 2022 11:13:54 GMT -5
Conclusion seems to be that Dan was all over the place and named almost every player remaining. He basically didn't accuse rooloo of anything, so I don't see a tie to the whack for rooloo.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
