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We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I have both opening statements but realize there’s a lot of people traveling this weekend so we’re gonna push this back to next week. I’ll post the opening statements Monday night.
At the risk of angering my big, initial alliance of Teddy, Tranter, Mads, and formerly rummy, I also had a separate alliance with Rummy and SFA that started following the infamous challenge that made us answer questions about each other. I stayed in my initial alliance group chat and played along to everything they said and leveraged their strength in numbers to eliminate the most deserving winner by a jury, SFA. I knew that my initial alliance was acting out of emotion with Rummy and did everything I could to keep her in to the very end, and helping her take them out 1 by 1, suggesting we take out stronger players like Teddy. I knew any other opponent would be a greater challenge in this moment.
There have been multiple moments where the fortnite.com team has wondered why I didn't get put on the chopping block and someone else did. That is because Rummy and I agreed to make it to the end. This was especially true of SFA's demise
You may hate this method but it has gotten me here and I feel like I am the most deserving player for balancing all of these deals and somehow not tipping off anyone.
“Beware the quiet man. For while others speak, he watched. And while others act, he plans. And when they finally rest… he strikes.” - the movie Vice lol
So here we are at the finals. Realistically speaking, I figure I'm only addressing this really to 4 folks on the jury as there is no world in which I imagine Cum/Teddy/Tranter would vote for me here, and that's aight. The reality is that I played it the best I could to get to the end, and there was clear math/qualitative strategy involved there--my actions did not come from some deep-seated backstabbing/two-faced mindset. That really isn't my style: not in real life but also not really in online games, either.
Let's go back to the beginning. I was invited into the alliance of Teddy/Tranter/Cum/KPO (the last one in, mind you--which they made sure to remind me of pretty frequently!), and I waffled on it initially because I knew that I wanted to do a Girls Rock vibe to push back against how, lets be real, inforoo games are often v male dominant. I love my Maf Bros, but this is just the truth. So I liked the idea of the girls club for this game! I told Cum *from the very start* that I'd be down to join this larger alliance and stay true to it til push came to shove, e.g. once it became a thing of them vs. the ladies. We had an official alliance name and everything: The Coven. It felt like me, LLL, and Cum were all on the same page that we'd float around and do our own thangs for a while but have loyalty to each other in the end.
And so I did stay true to that larger alliance all the while, but Cum and I were chatting on the sidelines and BOTH discussing "ok when does it make sense to split off?" None of this felt deceitful or conniving at all to me because I thought I'd been so transparent from the get-go to the two ladies I was trying to go the distance with, and the larger alliance asserted from the start that at some point, we'd naturally have to break up. I wanted to straight up tell LLL about our larger alliance in that I was in it for the time being but it wasn't my ultimate loyalty, but Cum talked me out of it multiple times. Would be a great time for screenshots to be allowed, but alas.
Then we got to that comp where I won literally all of the shitty/rude ones, and I can brush my shoulders off just fine (I exist as a female on inforoo, it is a necessary skill especially in Mafia), but that made it pretty blatantly evident to me that when it came down to it, I was going to be the first one in that alliance of five to be pushed out. That sucked to recognize, but again--it is a game, and we were all doing our best to win! But of course this realization influenced my strategy moving forward: I knew that if I got HOH control, I needed to try and get Teddy or Tranter out. These dudes know I like them IRL but again............it is a game. And I was well aware at this point that they wouldn't be saving me when it came down to it, either.
Which is why the reaction that has ensued from me quite literally making the ONLY possible move that made sense for me to potentially advance to the finals has turned into a thing of "Rummy is a snake, she's a liar, she's an idiot," blah blah is patently absurd -- when let's be real, fam, you weren't planning to bring me along to the finals with you either? My maneuver wasn't out of disdain or contempt or mindfuckery or any of that shit - I realized I was going to be pushed out by the larger alliance AND I realized that Cum wasn't actually planning to be loyal to the Coven after all. To the jurors that are actually reading this and pondering the decision, I ask you: what would you have done here? Stayed meek and quiet, only to probably be the next one voted out that next week?
Oh and as for performance on the comps: you can just go check the OP. I sucked at the dang virtual puzzles but did pretty damn well on others, and I believe I got HOH a total of either 3 or 4 times.
Am open to questions and discussions! Have also really enjoyed playing alongside KPO and am happy for either of us to win here.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on May 31, 2022 12:48:33 GMT -5
Trying to incorporate a point system of some kind for myself here because KPO also earned himself a point with his explanation stating that he also planned a smaller alliance, knowing his place in the larger alliance could be in peril depending on what backroom talks the other 3 were having with one another. This is a key game strategy for this game. I know that Rummy had employed it, obviously, earning her a point from me. But I wasn't sure if you had actually gone fully in on it. Nice work! You both get a point for that general concept. I guess extra points may come with planning, so:
KPO. At what point did you start those cogs moving with Rummy? At what point did the two of you come together to try to overtake the larger alliance and who initiated? Had you started anything similar with another player who may have gone out previously? Rummy is indicating that she was already employing that tactic from the beginning with The Coven, but had to change that when one member went out. Did you have something similar going on with anyone else?
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Trying to incorporate a point system of some kind for myself here because KPO also earned himself a point with his explanation stating that he also planned a smaller alliance, knowing his place in the larger alliance could be in peril depending on what backroom talks the other 3 were having with one another. This is a key game strategy for this game. I know that Rummy had employed it, obviously, earning her a point from me. But I wasn't sure if you had actually gone fully in on it. Nice work! You both get a point for that general concept. I guess extra points may come with planning, so:
KPO . At what point did you start those cogs moving with Rummy? At what point did the two of you come together to try to overtake the larger alliance and who initiated? Had you started anything similar with another player who may have gone out previously? Rummy is indicating that she was already employing that tactic from the beginning with The Coven, but had to change that when one member went out. Did you have something similar going on with anyone else?
I was beginning to feel the heat a bit before this challenge and reached out to rummy before this challenge, but after the "who is most likely getting voted out next" thing a handful of people reached out saying that the fortnite.com crew was about to backstab me so I took that a bit more seriously. I imagine Rummy being the one to outwardly betray helped me immensely because it shifted the team's focus to the external.
It was kind of a weird team but me, rummy and SFA were all in until SFA was out. We never had one group chat. Just individually talked
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on May 31, 2022 12:59:12 GMT -5
Previously my thoughts on how to pick a winner here is who employed the strategies that win games like Big Brother and Survivor, and who won the most challenges. It seemed like Rummy was the clear winner here, because I didn't realize that you had gone all the way in employing the strategy of the larger alliance and smaller alliance, and had been willing to betray the alliance you saw as either less likely to succeed, or that you saw yourself as likely to be able to make it to the end with. I think I am going to look at not only the individual challenges won, but also the number won by each alliance a person was trying to ride meaning, did they choose wisely in who they aligned with in the end. That is why I am interested to know if you had any earlier smaller alliances. Until your statement, I didn't think you had any points. Now you do so I probably need to figure out a better metric now.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I'd say my biggest move was deciding to partner with Rummy rather than anyone else in the game, and she played into it fantastically. I knew someone like Teddy, SFA, or LLL would be too good and deserving in a finale because a jury would vote them 10 times out of 9 for the great work they constantly put into challenges. I couldn't have them going up against me because they objectively played better in a pretty big regard, even if I feel like I did better in challenges than I'm given credit for. Rummy was great to work with and I felt like I could more often than not encourage moves that were beneficial to me when she would win something. It ended up working for her too obviously.
Tranter or Mads would have been good for the finale too, but I would just worry they'd vote for the other and I'd start out with at least one less vote than everyone else because obviously they want the record
Julie Chen has a question for the finalists. What would you say was your biggest move in the game?
My biggest move was also my most controversial one, demonstrating my shift in loyalty away from the larger alliance in the interest of trying to make it to the end here--though I maintain that there is no reason beyond pettiness (or intentional over-dramatization? idk) that a certain couple people should be so positively livid that I opted to, you know, actually make a move to keep myself in the game instead of passively letting that round probably be my final one (had I not bounced from the larger alliance when I did).
In Mafia sometimes I can play a little bit tooooo much with my heart instead of head (sometimes that works out well when my gut reads are spot-on as a townie, but other times at the end of a game I'm like "damn, I should've taken a step back to look at {whatever detail} more objectively. And I've been criticized here and there for that exact thing in Mafia, so I find it quite fascinating that now that I (very intentionally, btw) chose to do more head over heart in this Big Brother game, it is worthy of such criticism too.
After The Coven dissipated, I ramped up my chats with SFA more (I'd already been talking with him some during the game but not in an explicitly alliance-y way) as well as accepting the "I've got your back if you've got mine" proposal that KPO reached out to me with. It certainly worked out in my favor that SFA and KPO were open to being chummy with and helpful to each other, too, but nonetheless it was a delicate balance. KPO was understandably unnerved about the idea of SFA making it to the finals since he'd been so strong and dedicated throughout, but I made it clear to KPO that we needed to get out Teddy first and foremost - which allowed SFA to stay in another round and give me two-man armor again whilst Cum and Tranter both only had each other's loyalty and protection at that point.
I have no way of knowing, unless they opt to speak to it directly here, whether Teddy/Cum/Tranter now see me and KPO in similar lights, given the betrayal tactic he's now revealed he employed too--but if they don't, and still see me as this One Sole Villian of the season, I have no words. So I hope they're able to take a step back and look at this more objectively now that we are here at the finals & it turns out that both final contenders did a super similar thing to both ultimately make it to the end. The larger
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
trantsgiving
Inforoo Influencer Well known PRANKSTER
Julie Chen has a question for the finalists. What would you say was your biggest move in the game?
My biggest move was also my most controversial one, demonstrating my shift in loyalty away from the larger alliance in the interest of trying to make it to the end here--though I maintain that there is no reason beyond pettiness (or intentional over-dramatization? idk) that a certain couple people should be so positively livid that I opted to, you know, actually make a move to keep myself in the game instead of passively letting that round probably be my final one (had I not bounced from the larger alliance when I did).
In Mafia sometimes I can play a little bit tooooo much with my heart instead of head (sometimes that works out well when my gut reads are spot-on as a townie, but other times at the end of a game I'm like "damn, I should've taken a step back to look at {whatever detail} more objectively. And I've been criticized here and there for that exact thing in Mafia, so I find it quite fascinating that now that I (very intentionally, btw) chose to do more head over heart in this Big Brother game, it is worthy of such criticism too.
After The Coven dissipated, I ramped up my chats with SFA more (I'd already been talking with him some during the game but not in an explicitly alliance-y way) as well as accepting the "I've got your back if you've got mine" proposal that KPO reached out to me with. It certainly worked out in my favor that SFA and KPO were open to being chummy with and helpful to each other, too, but nonetheless it was a delicate balance. KPO was understandably unnerved about the idea of SFA making it to the finals since he'd been so strong and dedicated throughout, but I made it clear to KPO that we needed to get out Teddy first and foremost - which allowed SFA to stay in another round and give me two-man armor again whilst Cum and Tranter both only had each other's loyalty and protection at that point.
I have no way of knowing, unless they opt to speak to it directly here, whether Teddy/Cum/Tranter now see me and KPO in similar lights, given the betrayal tactic he's now revealed he employed too--but if they don't, and still see me as this One Sole Villian of the season, I have no words. So I hope they're able to take a step back and look at this more objectively now that we are here at the finals & it turns out that both final contenders did a super similar thing to both ultimately make it to the end. The larger
the question was about you and you’ve still somehow used it to complain about me. Focus on your game, I’m not in it anymore.
What record do you two want? Might influence my decision
well KPO's answer is gonna win this one because he would use this opportunity to get his gf a record, but it shouldn't be held against me that my partner doesn't have a record player!!!
as for my selection - haven't 100% decided but leaning In Colour
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
My biggest move was also my most controversial one, demonstrating my shift in loyalty away from the larger alliance in the interest of trying to make it to the end here--though I maintain that there is no reason beyond pettiness (or intentional over-dramatization? idk) that a certain couple people should be so positively livid that I opted to, you know, actually make a move to keep myself in the game instead of passively letting that round probably be my final one (had I not bounced from the larger alliance when I did).
In Mafia sometimes I can play a little bit tooooo much with my heart instead of head (sometimes that works out well when my gut reads are spot-on as a townie, but other times at the end of a game I'm like "damn, I should've taken a step back to look at {whatever detail} more objectively. And I've been criticized here and there for that exact thing in Mafia, so I find it quite fascinating that now that I (very intentionally, btw) chose to do more head over heart in this Big Brother game, it is worthy of such criticism too.
After The Coven dissipated, I ramped up my chats with SFA more (I'd already been talking with him some during the game but not in an explicitly alliance-y way) as well as accepting the "I've got your back if you've got mine" proposal that KPO reached out to me with. It certainly worked out in my favor that SFA and KPO were open to being chummy with and helpful to each other, too, but nonetheless it was a delicate balance. KPO was understandably unnerved about the idea of SFA making it to the finals since he'd been so strong and dedicated throughout, but I made it clear to KPO that we needed to get out Teddy first and foremost - which allowed SFA to stay in another round and give me two-man armor again whilst Cum and Tranter both only had each other's loyalty and protection at that point.
I have no way of knowing, unless they opt to speak to it directly here, whether Teddy/Cum/Tranter now see me and KPO in similar lights, given the betrayal tactic he's now revealed he employed too--but if they don't, and still see me as this One Sole Villian of the season, I have no words. So I hope they're able to take a step back and look at this more objectively now that we are here at the finals & it turns out that both final contenders did a super similar thing to both ultimately make it to the end. The larger
the question was about you and you’ve still somehow used it to complain about me. Focus on your game, I’m not in it anymore.
the way y'all have spoken about me in this thread ever since "the big betrayal" is extremely pertinent to my answer to this question. I'm not complaining about you, I am addressing the very relevant factor of how now that KPO has revealed he did something similar, I would hope the Angry Mob would be able to see that neither he nor I should be condemned for a decision that quite literally was the difference maker for both of us making it to the end.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
the question was about you and you’ve still somehow used it to complain about me. Focus on your game, I’m not in it anymore.
the way y'all have spoken about me in this thread ever since "the big betrayal" is extremely pertinent to my answer to this question. I'm not complaining about you, I am addressing the very relevant factor of how now that KPO has revealed he did something similar, I would hope the Angry Mob would be able to see that neither he nor I should be condemned for a decision that quite literally was the difference maker for both of us making it to the end.
in that quoted post you called me “livid” and “petty”. You also said implied that I called you an “idiot” earlier.
Talk about your game without saying these things. It’s doable, I promise.
the way y'all have spoken about me in this thread ever since "the big betrayal" is extremely pertinent to my answer to this question. I'm not complaining about you, I am addressing the very relevant factor of how now that KPO has revealed he did something similar, I would hope the Angry Mob would be able to see that neither he nor I should be condemned for a decision that quite literally was the difference maker for both of us making it to the end.
in that quoted post you called me “livid” and “petty”. You also said implied that I called you an “idiot” earlier.
Talk about your game without saying these things. It’s doable, I promise.
im sorry dude but you truly have responded in a livid and petty manner. like, i could quote up a storm to explicitly demonstrate the veracity of this statement - that isn't a good use of my time here, though, so i wont do that.
but i am not calling you a livid or petty person, and you know i wouldn't do that. don't twist my words please.
and let me clarify: i know you didn't use the word "idiot" but goddamn if you didn't insinuate it. MULTIPLE posts of "wow look at rummy just absolutely fucking herself over with this decision making" / "if you had stayed in the alliance, you would've had a chance - you've ruined your chances now." you absolutely indicated that i lack strategic intelligence and forethought, and it was genuinely hurtful.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
trantsgiving
Inforoo Influencer Well known PRANKSTER
in that quoted post you called me “livid” and “petty”. You also said implied that I called you an “idiot” earlier.
Talk about your game without saying these things. It’s doable, I promise.
im sorry dude but you truly have responded in a livid and petty manner. like, i could quote up a storm to explicitly demonstrate the veracity of this statement - that isn't a good use of my time here, though, so i wont do that.
but i am not calling you a livid or petty person, and you know i wouldn't do that. don't twist my words please.
question time isn't so you can play defense against what I've said. You are trying to make your case why you should win against KPO and you've spent half of your posts just complaining about me, cum, and Teddy.
im sorry dude but you truly have responded in a livid and petty manner. like, i could quote up a storm to explicitly demonstrate the veracity of this statement - that isn't a good use of my time here, though, so i wont do that.
but i am not calling you a livid or petty person, and you know i wouldn't do that. don't twist my words please.
question time isn't so you can play defense against what I've said. You are trying to make your case why you should win against KPO and you've spent half of your posts just complaining about me, cum, and Teddy.
well im not going to shit talk KPO in any sort of way to "prove" that i deserve to win, so my responses are going to talk about my play and my strategy/why I made the decisions I did, and talking about the larger alliance is part of that.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Finalists, what do you think your biggest mistake was in the game?
I don’t think I have any big “omg shouldn’t have done that moments, but I do wish I could have done a little better in challenges. Some were really fun. I just kinda had life get in the way very often.
Finalists, what do you think your biggest mistake was in the game?
this isn't a huge thing, but I do wish I'd had more time to dedicate to the scavenger hunt since some others really kicked ass in that comp -- and my performance definitely paled in comparison. similar to KPO, life things came up multiple times during this BB game where i had to focus on that instead, but alas, so it goes.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
