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Both strategic & social. I truly have valued and prioritized the social bond aspect of the game and the only "betrayal" I conducted was one that I knew from the start of the game was likely to have to occur at some point closer to the end by way of the basic math/numbers of it all, and it was then and only then that the strategic part came out ahead of the social. So then my social "angle" switched a bit in that I was only in chats with SFA and KPO (obv would've been with LLL too if she was still around in the final rounds <3), but I really did value those, not just from a strategy standpoint, and have enjoyed that piece of the game, for sure.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
SupeЯfuЯЯyanimal
Bleary-Eyed Bonnawook Globlist Facist Slave Dog
At the risk of angering my big, initial alliance of Teddy, Tranter, Mads, and formerly rummy, I also had a separate alliance with Rummy and SFA that started following the infamous challenge that made us answer questions about each other. I stayed in my initial alliance group chat and played along to everything they said and leveraged their strength in numbers to eliminate the most deserving winner by a jury, SFA. I knew that my initial alliance was acting out of emotion with Rummy and did everything I could to keep her in to the very end, and helping her take them out 1 by 1, suggesting we take out stronger players like Teddy. I knew any other opponent would be a greater challenge in this moment.
There have been multiple moments where the fortnite.com team has wondered why I didn't get put on the chopping block and someone else did. That is because Rummy and I agreed to make it to the end. This was especially true of SFA's demise
You may hate this method but it has gotten me here and I feel like I am the most deserving player for balancing all of these deals and somehow not tipping off anyone.
“Beware the quiet man. For while others speak, he watched. And while others act, he plans. And when they finally rest… he strikes.” - the movie Vice lol
I'm curious what you mean by this. The math was so that it didn't matter who was placed in the runoff. The winner of the veto challenge was almost certainly going to be the only person voting that week. Rummy and I discussed this. I didn't care if I was put in the runoff because it didn't really matter if one of us didn't win over Tranter.
So here we are at the finals. Realistically speaking, I figure I'm only addressing this really to 4 folks on the jury as there is no world in which I imagine Cum/Teddy/Tranter would vote for me here, and that's aight. The reality is that I played it the best I could to get to the end, and there was clear math/qualitative strategy involved there--my actions did not come from some deep-seated backstabbing/two-faced mindset. That really isn't my style: not in real life but also not really in online games, either.
Let's go back to the beginning. I was invited into the alliance of Teddy/Tranter/Cum/KPO (the last one in, mind you--which they made sure to remind me of pretty frequently!), and I waffled on it initially because I knew that I wanted to do a Girls Rock vibe to push back against how, lets be real, inforoo games are often v male dominant. I love my Maf Bros, but this is just the truth. So I liked the idea of the girls club for this game! I told Cum *from the very start* that I'd be down to join this larger alliance and stay true to it til push came to shove, e.g. once it became a thing of them vs. the ladies. We had an official alliance name and everything: The Coven. It felt like me, LLL, and Cum were all on the same page that we'd float around and do our own thangs for a while but have loyalty to each other in the end.
And so I did stay true to that larger alliance all the while, but Cum and I were chatting on the sidelines and BOTH discussing "ok when does it make sense to split off?" None of this felt deceitful or conniving at all to me because I thought I'd been so transparent from the get-go to the two ladies I was trying to go the distance with, and the larger alliance asserted from the start that at some point, we'd naturally have to break up. I wanted to straight up tell LLL about our larger alliance in that I was in it for the time being but it wasn't my ultimate loyalty, but Cum talked me out of it multiple times. Would be a great time for screenshots to be allowed, but alas.
Then we got to that comp where I won literally all of the shitty/rude ones, and I can brush my shoulders off just fine (I exist as a female on inforoo, it is a necessary skill especially in Mafia), but that made it pretty blatantly evident to me that when it came down to it, I was going to be the first one in that alliance of five to be pushed out. That sucked to recognize, but again--it is a game, and we were all doing our best to win! But of course this realization influenced my strategy moving forward: I knew that if I got HOH control, I needed to try and get Teddy or Tranter out. These dudes know I like them IRL but again............it is a game. And I was well aware at this point that they wouldn't be saving me when it came down to it, either.
Which is why the reaction that has ensued from me quite literally making the ONLY possible move that made sense for me to potentially advance to the finals has turned into a thing of "Rummy is a snake, she's a liar, she's an idiot," blah blah is patently absurd -- when let's be real, fam, you weren't planning to bring me along to the finals with you either? My maneuver wasn't out of disdain or contempt or mindfuckery or any of that shit - I realized I was going to be pushed out by the larger alliance AND I realized that Cum wasn't actually planning to be loyal to the Coven after all. To the jurors that are actually reading this and pondering the decision, I ask you: what would you have done here? Stayed meek and quiet, only to probably be the next one voted out that next week?
Oh and as for performance on the comps: you can just go check the OP. I sucked at the dang virtual puzzles but did pretty damn well on others, and I believe I got HOH a total of either 3 or 4 times.
Am open to questions and discussions! Have also really enjoyed playing alongside KPO and am happy for either of us to win here.
question time isn't so you can play defense against what I've said. You are trying to make your case why you should win against KPO and you've spent half of your posts just complaining about me, cum, and Teddy.
well im not going to shit talk KPO in any sort of way to "prove" that i deserve to win, so my responses are going to talk about my play and my strategy/why I made the decisions I did, and talking about the larger alliance is part of that.
but im done with this back and forth.
I honestly think jury behavior is relevant to the discussion since that's where the votes are coming from. The jury room was pretty much useless because several people in the large alliance had no intention of having an actual discussion on who has played the better game. It's one thing to be loyal to the person that they thought was loyal to them. It's another to ignore the majority of the points being made and rely on snide comments with zero value. Or constantly reminding everyone who they aren't voting for. We wouldn't have been better off with them not talking at all. And LOL at getting mad about name calling. Oh boy.
But let's stick to "who deserves to win." Putting aside alliance drama, what are your thoughts on how much winning competitions should matter here?
SupeЯfuЯЯyanimal I certainly think that winning comps should have substantial weight.
And given that I won Week 4, week 7, week 9 AND then two of the three HOH final comps in week 10 to ultimately give me final HOH status, yeah i think it should be considered just a wee bit. Because that means I won the majority of HOH comps I was eligible to compete in - I wasn't able to try for HOH status weeks 5 or 8, and yet I still won 4 of the 10 total.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
well im not going to shit talk KPO in any sort of way to "prove" that i deserve to win, so my responses are going to talk about my play and my strategy/why I made the decisions I did, and talking about the larger alliance is part of that.
but im done with this back and forth.
I honestly think jury behavior is relevant to the discussion since that's where the votes are coming from. The jury room was pretty much useless because several people in the large alliance had no intention of having an actual discussion on who has played the better game. It's one thing to be loyal to the person that they thought was loyal to them. It's another to ignore the majority of the points being made and rely on snide comments with zero value. Or constantly reminding everyone who they aren't voting for. We wouldn't have been better off with them not talking at all. And LOL at getting mad about name calling. Oh boy.
But let's stick to "who deserves to win." Putting aside alliance drama, what are your thoughts on how much winning competitions should matter here?
that really genuinely sucks to hear. i've sorta had the inclination that a few people had their minds made up, but to learn that they won't even engage in discussion or let you speak your opinion is super shitty. and i still dont fucking understand why im the villian here.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
I am trying to decide if I want to take into consideration the difficulty of the game, but they were all competitions chosen by our fearless leader, Julie, so I am leaning towards that not being a considering. Don't want to question her wisdom or work here.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
trantsgiving
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I am trying to decide if I want to take into consideration the difficulty of the game, but they were all competitions chosen by our fearless leader, Julie, so I am leaning towards that not being a considering. Don't want to question her wisdom or work here.
eh I mean even the most competitive of sports require a little luck.
I am trying to decide if I want to take into consideration the difficulty of the game, but they were all competitions chosen by our fearless leader, Julie, so I am leaning towards that not being a considering. Don't want to question her wisdom or work here.
Rule of thumb is that HOH competitions are usually up for grabs for anybody and Veto competitions are more skill and effort based
Dude straight up cried about it and didn’t respond to our arguments lmao
This is absolute bullshit. Post the entire chat log right now. I don’t care.
LLL and I both tried to make thoughtful arguments in there. I responded to pretty much everything I saw of value until I got sick of listening to the snide remarks. One of you cursed at LLL after she spent a lot of time making points on how she viewed the game. Not a single one of you said anything but smart ass stuff in response and she had to tell one of you not to curse at her.
That’s why I was fucking pissed. I’m not sorry and I don’t regret it. It was a waste of time discussing anything.
The only thing I recall not responded to was your claim Rummy suggested going after KPO first. I have no way to know if that was true or not. Rummy and LLL both said Cum brought it up. They told me this like a month ago and i have no reason not to Believe them.
And I didn’t response to the paragraphs of Cum talking in circles about alliances and shit. I do know she’s lying about some of it but, again, I’m not in those chats so I can’t rightfully argue back on things I don’t know.
Post by SupeЯfuЯЯyanimal on May 31, 2022 21:03:02 GMT -5
The simple truth is 3 out of 7 jurors had their minds made up. Which is fine. I was pretty much set in voting Rummy but I was going to be a juror and talk things out with everyone. You guys made that almost impossible and were so clearly set lying out to make sure one person lost that there was no way to have a thoughtful conversation.
Again, post the screenshots right now. I don’t care.
Would there be something I could say that would sway you or are you mostly in team rummy
you’re almost certainly gonna win this anyway since three people were entirely unswayable as of weeks ago, regardless of how everything else played out. Let me have my one or two votes please.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on May 31, 2022 21:14:25 GMT -5
So HOH winners Teddy-1 Celibate Surfer-1 SFA-3 Cum-1 Rummy-4
Veto winners-- Teddy-3(while in alliance with both) Teddy-1-While in alliance with KPO in his eyes, but KPO was also now in alliance with Rummy LLL-1 Celibate surfer-1 KPO-1 Tranter-1 (while in alliance with both) Tranter-2 while in alliance with only KPO, but KPO also now in alliance with Rummy
yeah, this didn't really help with who I feel like looking at just by numbers like I thought it would and who they aligned with when. unless we just look at pure wins, and it goes Teddy and and then Rummy. Until the point of the break, Teddy and SFA were really the people to be aligned with. And both players did that, Rummy doing it first.
Competition by competition Rummy wins here 4 to 1, if I want to just look at it in simple terms of who is left.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
SupeЯfuЯЯyanimal
Bleary-Eyed Bonnawook Globlist Facist Slave Dog
Would there be something I could say that would sway you or are you mostly in team rummy
. I had a question above.
I think you played a good game and I’m happy you made it to the end. Truly. I just think Rummy took more risks and won challenges when she absolutely had to. She also saved me and kept me in the game… which I trust you would have done too. At least before the end. So I gotta be loyal there.
But I think you have the votes to win if I’m not wrong so it doesn’t matter all that much.
We discussed it in the jury room, SFA flipped out, called us babies and hasn’t responded since lol. He’s just lying .
this doesnt sound like something SFA would do at all unless severely provoked but ok
in all fairness, he did a classic SFA mafia type game blow up for real. One could split hairs on provocation. There was plenty of provocaton to go around from many parties. JTR and Silver being about the only two not guilty. He is LOLing at me at calling out name calling because I didn't find his response appropriate or helpful. But this isn't the first time mom has reigned dad in, so he is used to it and hopefully didn't take offense or feel shushed.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Teddy Flair
Which Ditch Bridge Troll Doesn't Want This
Dude straight up cried about it and didn’t respond to our arguments lmao
This is absolute bullshit. Post the entire chat log right now. I don’t care.
LLL and I both tried to make thoughtful arguments in there. I responded to pretty much everything I saw of value until I got sick of listening to the snide remarks. One of you cursed at LLL after she spent a lot of time making points on how she viewed the game. Not a single one of you said anything but smart ass stuff in response and she had to tell one of you not to curse at her.
That’s why I was fucking pissed. I’m not sorry and I don’t regret it. It was a waste of time discussing anything.
The only thing I recall not responded to was your claim Rummy suggested going after KPO first. I have no way to know if that was true or not. Rummy and LLL both said Cum brought it up. They told me this like a month ago and i have no reason not to Believe them.
And I didn’t response to the paragraphs of Cum talking in circles about alliances and shit. I do know she’s lying about some of it but, again, I’m not in those chats so I can’t rightfully argue back on things I don’t know.
I made multiple messages regarding my thought process and it wasn’t what you’re describing. If you could see through your tears, you would understand.
