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Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Do you think there's a chance Cum and Jortles are mafia together? If there are two left, this is the only combo that makes sense to me.
now hold on boys if im supposedly mafia i cant be mafia with half of the people left, come on. i feel like these flailing accusations this late in the game are enough proof that im not whacking anyone.
Do you think there's a chance Cum and Jortles are mafia together? If there are two left, this is the only combo that makes sense to me.
now hold on boys if im supposedly mafia i cant be mafia with half of the people left, come on. i feel like these flailing accusations this late in the game are enough proof that im not whacking anyone.
what im saying is that this looks like a terrible lack of coordination on my part if i was mafia (which im not) i worded it little weird. need coffee.
Do you think there's a chance Cum and Jortles are mafia together? If there are two left, this is the only combo that makes sense to me.
can you give just a couple quick notes on why this pairing makes sense to you?
you don't think if theres two left (and you're town) that jortles/theo makes more sense? they've voted alongside each other today until theo switched, d3 neither voted for each other. i think it's less likely they're maf together now that Theo did switch but if they're confident we'll vote you out tomorrow instead of theo, i could see it happening.
again, i dont think it's particularly likely at this point due to theo's willingness to switch onto jortles w me but it makes more sense to me than cum/jortles for sure
I think you're putting too much weight into what has happened from D3 onward, and not enough on what happened before the inspector reveal. Theo voted for Jortles D1 and allowed him to go into the runoff. There's nothing inherently right or wrong with that, maf vote for each other on D1 and sometimes it leads to them being in the runoff, sure. LD then voted for Jortles right out the gate in the 4way D1. This makes me think that LD/Jortles/Theo is an unlikely combo.
Now contrast that with Cum's votes on D1. She initially voted for me, which is fine. I voted for LD and then switched off him (which, to me, should be the biggest argument for me being mafia - obviously I know I'm not but I couldn't blame town for looking at that). There was then some weird movement with LD/JTR/Cum - LD retaliates against me, I switch off LD unknowingly, JTR switches to LD (and then later says he didn't realize I moved off), LD switches off me and retaliates on JTR, JTR then switches off LD (noting he missed my vote switch) onto townie Tranter, and then Cum (who originally voted for me) throws her vote on LD, which is meaningless because he's not advancing into the runoff. This leaves the three revoters at the end of D1R1 as LD/Cum/Teddy, with a runoff of Jortles/Rooloo/Teddy/Tranter. We know 2 of those 4 are town. LD comes out and votes Jortles (as noted above), Teddy votes Tranter, Cum votes Rooloo.
I'm thinking hard about that sequence of votes. Teddy inspector votes for Town Tranter, OK. But mafia LD comes out and votes unknown Jortles, and unknown Cum comes out and votes unknown Rooloo (who ends up dying). Note who doesn't get a vote to advance - inspector Ted. Then the whole "don't do that"/Poochie exchange happens, which which leads Cum to switch her vote now to our inspector. This was the beginning of the sequence of events that led to Teddy having to reveal.
I think anything that has happened after Teddy revealed is a result of mafia scrambling and doing whatever they can do to survive. But this sequence of events surrounding LD/rooloo/Jortles/Cum/JTR is too weird. We know there's one maf in there, I feel confident there's a second and possibly a third based on the above.
I read through basically everything and the prevailing town narratives this entire game have been so so unconvincing yet adopted by a majority like crazy. An example being the “it’s gotta be JTR or potent”. Those were my top two as well but where the fuck is the one person thinking differently. Bet maf is riding an “acceptable” storyline there. If it’s potent and someone else, the someone else is Theo or cum but I really lean cum.
I’m staying on potent as long as nobody else is interested in cum. More important than anything said in this game is that potent pouted and stamped his feet when he was about to go out. That’s his tell.
regardless of whether my read aligns with yours, you popped in to to cast a vote then tell us how you're better at reading others than us, and then peaced back out.
if town, how is this helpful to us other townies?
im just really struggling to see what tranter has done thats so off. if hes town, surely at least one of the three on him is maf but it cant be all three of you!
it’s helpful to Town if my read is right? I can’t remember if you played last game or not but I voted for JTR with no explanation then went on sabbatical and my read was right. It’s difficult to comprehend how fire my reads are I get it, but it’s something I was born with. Killing any order of Potent and JTR the next two days then tranter on day 5 gets a dub. Book it
doesnt look so good now bc tranter is confirmed town but why are you deviating from your own plan for success so hard?
can you give just a couple quick notes on why this pairing makes sense to you?
you don't think if theres two left (and you're town) that jortles/theo makes more sense? they've voted alongside each other today until theo switched, d3 neither voted for each other. i think it's less likely they're maf together now that Theo did switch but if they're confident we'll vote you out tomorrow instead of theo, i could see it happening.
again, i dont think it's particularly likely at this point due to theo's willingness to switch onto jortles w me but it makes more sense to me than cum/jortles for sure
I think you're putting too much weight into what has happened from D3 onward, and not enough on what happened before the inspector reveal. Theo voted for Jortles D1 and allowed him to go into the runoff. There's nothing inherently right or wrong with that, maf vote for each other on D1 and sometimes it leads to them being in the runoff, sure. LD then voted for Jortles right out the gate in the 4way D1. This makes me think that LD/Jortles/Theo is an unlikely combo.
Now contrast that with Cum's votes on D1. She initially voted for me, which is fine. I voted for LD and then switched off him (which, to me, should be the biggest argument for me being mafia - obviously I know I'm not but I couldn't blame town for looking at that). There was then some weird movement with LD/JTR/Cum - LD retaliates against me, I switch off LD unknowingly, JTR switches to LD (and then later says he didn't realize I moved off), LD switches off me and retaliates on JTR, JTR then switches off LD (noting he missed my vote switch) onto townie Tranter, and then Cum (who originally voted for me) throws her vote on LD, which is meaningless because he's not advancing into the runoff. This leaves the three revoters at the end of D1R1 as LD/Cum/Teddy, with a runoff of Jortles/Rooloo/Teddy/Tranter. We know 2 of those 4 are town. LD comes out and votes Jortles (as noted above), Teddy votes Tranter, Cum votes Rooloo.
I'm thinking hard about that sequence of votes. Teddy inspector votes for Town Tranter, OK. But mafia LD comes out and votes unknown Jortles, and unknown Cum comes out and votes unknown Rooloo (who ends up dying). Note who doesn't get a vote to advance - inspector Ted. Then the whole "don't do that"/Poochie exchange happens, which which leads Cum to switch her vote now to our inspector. This was the beginning of the sequence of events that led to Teddy having to reveal.
I think anything that has happened after Teddy revealed is a result of mafia scrambling and doing whatever they can do to survive. But this sequence of events surrounding LD/rooloo/Jortles/Cum/JTR is too weird. We know there's one maf in there, I feel confident there's a second and possibly a third based on the above.
In order of the bolded parts (#1=response to first bolded part above, etc.) 1. That's a fair take but also speaks to a difference in how you and I play; it isn't as if I ignore voting data by any measure but it is the easiest manipulated thing by mafia whereas cracks showing d3/d4 with inconsistencies and weird pushes, stuff like that... I think that shit is highly important to look at too. 2. Kind of like when you said earlier in the game (sometime in d3) that you had a level of sympathy for JTR bc you felt like people were hounding him as potential maf for the same reasons used upon you (namely the weird movement on/around LD y'all had in D1), I similarly feel for Cum here because I know how bad it looked on me to encourage a teddy/rooloo runoff once teddy came out. It was a bad move that upon reflection ofc I regretted but at the time i felt sus on teddy. As for the potential reasons a Maf Cum would switch off rooloo onto Ted (shortly before he revealed)...i mean, idk, if cum is maf with rooloo I guess? But I think it's way more likely Cum made an ill advised move as town just as I did that Day. 3. Yeah we agree here. I just don't think cum is it and also doubt rooloo was it. So let's just go Jortles here and if we get to a d5 instead of Town winning in D4, the remaining townies will do what they gotta do (e.g. you opting to vote cum if thats where your heart leads you)
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
I read through basically everything and the prevailing town narratives this entire game have been so so unconvincing yet adopted by a majority like crazy. An example being the “it’s gotta be JTR or potent”. Those were my top two as well but where the fuck is the one person thinking differently. Bet maf is riding an “acceptable” storyline there. If it’s potent and someone else, the someone else is Theo or cum but I really lean cum.
I’m staying on potent as long as nobody else is interested in cum. More important than anything said in this game is that potent pouted and stamped his feet when he was about to go out. That’s his tell.
it’s helpful to Town if my read is right? I can’t remember if you played last game or not but I voted for JTR with no explanation then went on sabbatical and my read was right. It’s difficult to comprehend how fire my reads are I get it, but it’s something I was born with. Killing any order of Potent and JTR the next two days then tranter on day 5 gets a dub. Book it
doesnt look so good now bc tranter is confirmed town but why are you deviating from your own plan for success so hard?
because I die if you kill me instead of potent? Am I not dead already?
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
it was lower for me and now it seems that's correct?
uhh…. Per Theo’s post, If it was me and cum we literally would’ve won. What are you talking about??
right, so theo asked and I couldn't respond before the deadline. When I responded, I said "it was lower for me" meaning I was not thinking it was likely, and "now it seems that's correct" in reference to me placing rummy/cum low on the likely pairs. I don't remember how much after Danbob I posted but I thought it was pretty clear in my post that I realized it wasn't the case since danbob didn't end the day. Does this clarify it for you?
