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Post by man1cpixiedreamgirl on Apr 20, 2022 11:34:04 GMT -5
People 25 and under should be in their own dating pool. No one older should date them because their brains haven't formed.
EDIT: Obviously something like 1 - 3 years older/younger than 25 is ok, but even a 20 year old dating a 25 year old are two huge different life placements.
People 25 and under should be in their own dating pool. No one older should date them because their brains haven't formed.
EDIT: Obviously something like 1 - 3 years older/younger than 25 is ok, but even a 20 year old dating a 25 year old are two huge different life placements.
Most toxic relationship/dating I ever did were girls in their early 20s when I was 30/31. I look back on it with no real resentment. They were just, as you said, not fully formed, still experimenting and trying to figure out what they wanted. It was dumb of me to expect them to be on my level in terms of respect and maturity. When I'm honest with myself I only stayed in it so long because they both were just really, really fucking hot with major physical attraction. But the dishonesty and mind games took their toll on me mentally and after the 2nd one ended, I changed my age settings on the apps to 27 at the youngest.
People 25 and under should be in their own dating pool. No one older should date them because their brains haven't formed.
EDIT: Obviously something like 1 - 3 years older/younger than 25 is ok, but even a 20 year old dating a 25 year old are two huge different life placements.
Most toxic relationship/dating I ever did were girls in their early 20s when I was 30/31. I look back on it with no real resentment. They were just, as you said, not fully formed, still experimenting and trying to figure out what they wanted. It was dumb of me to expect them to be on my level in terms of respect and maturity. When I'm honest with myself I only stayed in it so long because they both were just really, really fucking hot with major physical attraction. But the dishonesty and mind games took their toll on me mentally and after the 2nd one ended, I changed my age settings on the apps to 27 at the youngest.
My experience is pretty much the same. I had a 21yo hitting on me at the bar the other day and as much as I enjoyed it, I had to tell her I felt too old for her (didn't want to say she was too young for me).
People 25 and under should be in their own dating pool. No one older should date them because their brains haven't formed.
EDIT: Obviously something like 1 - 3 years older/younger than 25 is ok, but even a 20 year old dating a 25 year old are two huge different life placements.
Most toxic relationship/dating I ever did were girls in their early 20s when I was 30/31. I look back on it with no real resentment. They were just, as you said, not fully formed, still experimenting and trying to figure out what they wanted. It was dumb of me to expect them to be on my level in terms of respect and maturity. When I'm honest with myself I only stayed in it so long because they both were just really, really fucking hot with major physical attraction. But the dishonesty and mind games took their toll on me mentally and after the 2nd one ended, I changed my age settings on the apps to 27 at the youngest.
I wasn't dating in my early 20's because I was in the closet, but my GF had a totally different experience (she's totally cool with me sharing about it). She's said that when she turned 30, she realized how weird and gross it would be to date someone in their early 20's. She felt like it would be predatory. I think she said something like "It's like going back to your elementary school. Too weird of a vibe." And then she proceeded to confront her exes! Not my bag, but she said it helped give her closure.
People 25 and under should be in their own dating pool. No one older should date them because their brains haven't formed.
EDIT: Obviously something like 1 - 3 years older/younger than 25 is ok, but even a 20 year old dating a 25 year old are two huge different life placements.
I think once people are out college / university they shouldn't hook up with people younger than them anymore. It's weird, imo.
I had my kid at 22, my son's father was 7 years older than me. After him I never dated anyone more than 2 years older/younger than me. I know quite a few May/December romances, more in my parent's age group, but it is just not something for me.
I have a coworker who told me she hooked up with some rando that's 16 years younger.
With that said, what's y'all take on age range?
it is so so context dependent on what the age is of the younger party involved.
e.g. a 30 year old deciding to consensually do whatev they want with someone in their 50s? it might not be my personal preference of age range, but i would not judge or take any issue with it. both are fully mentally formed adults who can decide what the fuck and who the fuck they want to do.
however, a 30 year old...with an 18 year old? nahhhh fam. that 18 year old may be legally able to consent but they're a literal teenager and their frontal cortex (the part of the brain responsible for decision making, thinking through problems, etc.) is far from fully developed. it typically isn't until age 23-25, depending on the person.
whereas a 23 or 24 year old with someone in their 30s, again that seems much more OK to me because of the aforementioned scientific factual difference.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
People 25 and under should be in their own dating pool. No one older should date them because their brains haven't formed.
EDIT: Obviously something like 1 - 3 years older/younger than 25 is ok, but even a 20 year old dating a 25 year old are two huge different life placements.
lol, typed out my post with specific mention of the same brain thing--before seeing yours! jinx
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
As for biggest age ranges I've personally experienced: when I was 23 I dated a guy for just a little while who was mid 30s (I think 33/34 at the time?) and then at 24 another mid-30s dude for almost a year. Any younger than that and I'd feel weird about it reflecting on it now, but at 23 I think I was pretty well matured (not saying 100% on that brain component but close to it).
Oh and in the same timeframe I was dating the mid-30s guy when I was 24, I actually was dating a woman too who was older than him--she was either 38 or 39 at the time. Ultimately the age difference was part of what made us decide to just be friends after a handful of months. That isn't to say 15 years difference has to be a deal breaker, but it was enough that after a while of dating we mutually agreed it felt more natural to be friends.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
Most toxic relationship/dating I ever did were girls in their early 20s when I was 30/31. I look back on it with no real resentment. They were just, as you said, not fully formed, still experimenting and trying to figure out what they wanted. It was dumb of me to expect them to be on my level in terms of respect and maturity. When I'm honest with myself I only stayed in it so long because they both were just really, really fucking hot with major physical attraction. But the dishonesty and mind games took their toll on me mentally and after the 2nd one ended, I changed my age settings on the apps to 27 at the youngest.
I wasn't dating in my early 20's because I was in the closet, but my GF had a totally different experience (she's totally cool with me sharing about it). She's said that when she turned 30, she realized how weird and gross it would be to date someone in their early 20's. She felt like it would be predatory. I think she said something like "It's like going back to your elementary school. Too weird of a vibe." And then she proceeded to confront her exes! Not my bag, but she said it helped give her closure.
Anyway, glad you figured it out.
As a 34 year old now, I honestly look back on it and, wouldn't say I feel "gross", but definitely just didnt feel like it ever had any chance of being real, to the point where I just now feel foolish. The first was a friend of a friend who was making big moves on me at a party. We dated for several months but had a near year-long break up that resulted in a giant schism in the mutual friend group. The 2nd was a tinder match with pretty much the only girl I ever met in Asia who was big into festivals and acid and tripping and the like. Dating her made me feel like I was 23 again and re-living that life, but alas along came a French man to steal her away.
The main thing I gathered is that people that young just aren't yet fully aware of how their actions affect others, most likely because no one has acted so shittily towards them yet.
Most toxic relationship/dating I ever did were girls in their early 20s when I was 30/31. I look back on it with no real resentment. They were just, as you said, not fully formed, still experimenting and trying to figure out what they wanted. It was dumb of me to expect them to be on my level in terms of respect and maturity. When I'm honest with myself I only stayed in it so long because they both were just really, really fucking hot with major physical attraction. But the dishonesty and mind games took their toll on me mentally and after the 2nd one ended, I changed my age settings on the apps to 27 at the youngest.
My experience is pretty much the same. I had a 21yo hitting on me at the bar the other day and as much as I enjoyed it, I had to tell her I felt too old for her (didn't want to say she was too young for me).
So the only two post/in-covid experiences I've had lately in NYC involves 22yo or 24yo hitting on me and me having to step back. I feel like I can't date younger than 29 right now (I'm 36.) Also I'll admit it was nice being flirted at, but all the energy felt like it sucked out when I realized I had 10 years on them.
I wasn't dating in my early 20's because I was in the closet, but my GF had a totally different experience (she's totally cool with me sharing about it). She's said that when she turned 30, she realized how weird and gross it would be to date someone in their early 20's. She felt like it would be predatory. I think she said something like "It's like going back to your elementary school. Too weird of a vibe." And then she proceeded to confront her exes! Not my bag, but she said it helped give her closure.
Anyway, glad you figured it out.
As a 34 year old now, I honestly look back on it and, wouldn't say I feel "gross", but definitely just didnt feel like it ever had any chance of being real, to the point where I just now feel foolish. The first was a friend of a friend who was making big moves on me at a party. We dated for several months but had a near year-long break up that resulted in a giant schism in the mutual friend group. The 2nd was a tinder match with pretty much the only girl I ever met in Asia who was big into festivals and acid and tripping and the like. Dating her made me feel like I was 23 again and re-living that life, but alas along came a French man to steal her away.
The main thing I gathered is that people that young just aren't yet fully aware of how their actions affect others, most likely because no one has acted so shittily towards them yet.
That's such an interesting perspective.
I have my own experience with age gap relationships, but it's really different in lesbian relationships than in hetero dynamics. My GF refuses to join the forum because she generally hates "being online" (i love her) but she's literally over my shoulder asking me to say this so:
"OK, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but when I've dated older man as a younger woman - barely not-a-girl anymore - I can tell you that none of those men thought about the consequences of their actions, or the responsibility they had when dating someone younger. They got off on being with someone with tons of energy and very little life experience. My standards weren't high because I didn't even know what was normal to expect in relationships. There's a power dynamic with more lived experience, and then when you add being male on top of it, there's a lot that can go wrong for the younger female partner. Not every single guy I dated with an age gap sucked, but they certainly were looking for someone who would put up with their shit. Because now, in my thirties I wouldn't look at them twice. Rose-colored glasses come with inexperience. Also a lot of girls are socialized to trust older men, and see them as vehicles of validation, which consciously or not, men use to their advantage.
Not to say that it's always bad or harmful, but the potential for it to be is a lot more than when it's peer-level."
People 25 and under should be in their own dating pool. No one older should date them because their brains haven't formed.
EDIT: Obviously something like 1 - 3 years older/younger than 25 is ok, but even a 20 year old dating a 25 year old are two huge different life placements.
I think once people are out college / university they shouldn't hook up with people younger than them anymore. It's weird, imo.
It wasn't always weird. I went to a coed Catholic high school, and there were very few girls in my school who weren't dating guys in college or who worked. It wasn't an issue at all back then who dated who and what the spread was. That became creepy later, but it was totally normal and expected in the 1980's. Times changed and attitudes changed. But I don't judge anyone. If a 30 year old girl wants to hook up with an 80 year old guy or vice versa, that's their business. Same goes for same-side relationships. After his wife passed away, former Pennsylvania Senator Harris Wooford at the ripe age of 90 met a guy who he fell in love with and married who was 40. Might seem weird to some people, but I feel like adults shouldn't judge other adults.
I think once people are out college / university they shouldn't hook up with people younger than them anymore. It's weird, imo.
It wasn't always weird. I went to a coed Catholic high school, and there were very few girls in my school who weren't dating guys in college or who worked. It wasn't an issue at all back then who dated who and what the spread was. That became creepy later, but it was totally normal and expected in the 1980's. Times changed and attitudes changed. But I don't judge anyone. If a 30 year old girl wants to hook up with an 80 year old guy or vice versa, that's their business. Same goes for same-side relationships. After his wife passed away, former Pennsylvania Senator Harris Wooford at the ripe age of 90 met a guy who he fell in love with and married who was 40. Might seem weird to some people, but I feel like adults shouldn't judge other adults.
I think the main debate here isn't with people over 25. I think the debate here is over preference (obviously wildly different between people) and what feels "acceptable" now. I HOPE I would have felt icky as fuck in that era dating someone 12 years younger than me at say 30? I don't think anyone thinks it's that weird when you push past your 30's.
As a 34 year old now, I honestly look back on it and, wouldn't say I feel "gross", but definitely just didnt feel like it ever had any chance of being real, to the point where I just now feel foolish. The first was a friend of a friend who was making big moves on me at a party. We dated for several months but had a near year-long break up that resulted in a giant schism in the mutual friend group. The 2nd was a tinder match with pretty much the only girl I ever met in Asia who was big into festivals and acid and tripping and the like. Dating her made me feel like I was 23 again and re-living that life, but alas along came a French man to steal her away.
The main thing I gathered is that people that young just aren't yet fully aware of how their actions affect others, most likely because no one has acted so shittily towards them yet.
That's such an interesting perspective.
I have my own experience with age gap relationships, but it's really different in lesbian relationships than in hetero dynamics. My GF refuses to join the forum because she generally hates "being online" (i love her) but she's literally over my shoulder asking me to say this so:
"OK, I'm not trying to pick a fight, but when I've dated older man as a younger woman - barely not-a-girl anymore - I can tell you that none of those men thought about the consequences of their actions, or the responsibility they had when dating someone younger. They got off on being with someone with tons of energy and very little life experience. My standards weren't high because I didn't even know what was normal to expect in relationships. There's a power dynamic with more lived experience, and then when you add being male on top of it, there's a lot that can go wrong for the younger female partner. Not every single guy I dated with an age gap sucked, but they certainly were looking for someone who would put up with their shit. Because now, in my thirties I wouldn't look at them twice. Rose-colored glasses come with inexperience. Also a lot of girls are socialized to trust older men, and see them as vehicles of validation, which consciously or not, men use to their advantage.
Not to say that it's always bad or harmful, but the potential for it to be is a lot more than when it's peer-level."
once an older male person is involved, it is inherently different. that goes for an older guy dating a younger one in a queer/gay relationship too.
it's just facts. older men (especially the white ones!) have social power and clout to a degree that can manipulate in a way that's quite simply divergent from how others can/do.
Considering you've found the need to respond to my threads as if you are threatened by me I offer you some peace my confused counterpart. May you find peace in your restless soul.
It wasn't always weird. I went to a coed Catholic high school, and there were very few girls in my school who weren't dating guys in college or who worked. It wasn't an issue at all back then who dated who and what the spread was. That became creepy later, but it was totally normal and expected in the 1980's. Times changed and attitudes changed. But I don't judge anyone. If a 30 year old girl wants to hook up with an 80 year old guy or vice versa, that's their business. Same goes for same-side relationships. After his wife passed away, former Pennsylvania Senator Harris Wooford at the ripe age of 90 met a guy who he fell in love with and married who was 40. Might seem weird to some people, but I feel like adults shouldn't judge other adults.
I think the main debate here isn't with people over 25. I think the debate here is over preference (obviously wildly different between people) and what feels "acceptable" now. I HOPE I would have felt icky as fuck in that era dating someone 12 years younger than me at say 30? I don't think anyone thinks it's that weird when you push past your 30's.
I hear you. I couldn't tell since he said once someone is out of college they shouldn't date anyone younger without caveats which I suppose were intended. I wasn't making a judgment call on anything except judging.
I think once people are out college / university they shouldn't hook up with people younger than them anymore. It's weird, imo.
It wasn't always weird. I went to a coed Catholic high school, and there were very few girls in my school who weren't dating guys in college or who worked. It wasn't an issue at all back then who dated who and what the spread was. That became creepy later, but it was totally normal and expected in the 1980's. Times changed and attitudes changed. But I don't judge anyone. If a 30 year old girl wants to hook up with an 80 year old guy or vice versa, that's their business. Same goes for same-side relationships. After his wife passed away, former Pennsylvania Senator Harris Wooford at the ripe age of 90 met a guy who he fell in love with and married who was 40. Might seem weird to some people, but I feel like adults shouldn't judge other adults.
I mean yeah. People used to get married in their early twenties, get a house and everything ages ago. Now that isn't the case anymore. Almost everyone is getting a higher degree nowadays, which also makes for a different life period almost added next to teenage years - which also wasn't a thing in the 19xx's. Times change.
Lastly, we're talking people in their early twenties. I have no issue with people dating with big age gaps, but I basically fully agree and reiterate the brain thing Rummy was talking about.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Apr 20, 2022 13:04:06 GMT -5
Oldest-when I was 33 and he was 48. He was a tri-athlete. Vibrant and energetic. You would never know he was 48 so who cares. I didn't even think about it.
Youngest--She was 13 years younger. One time hookup.
Y'all can just consider me to be 35 from here on out. Such ageism.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
It wasn't always weird. I went to a coed Catholic high school, and there were very few girls in my school who weren't dating guys in college or who worked. It wasn't an issue at all back then who dated who and what the spread was. That became creepy later, but it was totally normal and expected in the 1980's. Times changed and attitudes changed. But I don't judge anyone. If a 30 year old girl wants to hook up with an 80 year old guy or vice versa, that's their business. Same goes for same-side relationships. After his wife passed away, former Pennsylvania Senator Harris Wooford at the ripe age of 90 met a guy who he fell in love with and married who was 40. Might seem weird to some people, but I feel like adults shouldn't judge other adults.
I mean yeah. People used to get married in their early twenties, get a house and everything ages ago. Now that isn't the case anymore. Almost everyone is getting a higher degree nowadays, which also makes for a different life period almost added next to teenage years - which also wasn't a thing in the 19xx's. Times change.
Lastly, we're talking people in their early twenties. I have no issue with people dating with big age gaps, but I basically fully agree and reiterate the brain thing Rummy was talking about.
I got married in my early twenties, bought a house, started a family. I've been called out for it many times that I was young, yet I don't regret it.
Now I'm in my 30s and figuring out the dating scene (in a different country as I grew up). Since I was married for 7 years and lived with her for about 10, most of my choices/desires are based on that experience.
It's good and bad. It's more clear to me now, what kind of person I want to end up with. It is a lot more difficult finding the right person since I know what I don't like in a relationship.
Dating older women makes it easier since they mostly have enough experience (marriage, kids, living together,...). Dating younger I feel like I'm educating them and since they lack experience I feel like I'm just a stepping stone for their future.
I think once people are out college / university they shouldn't hook up with people younger than them anymore. It's weird, imo.
It wasn't always weird. I went to a coed Catholic high school, and there were very few girls in my school who weren't dating guys in college or who worked. It wasn't an issue at all back then who dated who and what the spread was. That became creepy later, but it was totally normal and expected in the 1980's. Times changed and attitudes changed. But I don't judge anyone. If a 30 year old girl wants to hook up with an 80 year old guy or vice versa, that's their business. Same goes for same-side relationships. After his wife passed away, former Pennsylvania Senator Harris Wooford at the ripe age of 90 met a guy who he fell in love with and married who was 40. Might seem weird to some people, but I feel like adults shouldn't judge other adults.
Just because something happened doesn’t mean it was a good idea.
You should definitely judge any person who is dating a high school but they’re not in high school. It’s not ok. (Obviously if they met in high school & still dating after one of them graduates that’s different)
Anything when both partners are over 30 is different, obviously. Sure life experience gaps are still informative but not inherently traumatic
It wasn't always weird. I went to a coed Catholic high school, and there were very few girls in my school who weren't dating guys in college or who worked. It wasn't an issue at all back then who dated who and what the spread was. That became creepy later, but it was totally normal and expected in the 1980's. Times changed and attitudes changed. But I don't judge anyone. If a 30 year old girl wants to hook up with an 80 year old guy or vice versa, that's their business. Same goes for same-side relationships. After his wife passed away, former Pennsylvania Senator Harris Wooford at the ripe age of 90 met a guy who he fell in love with and married who was 40. Might seem weird to some people, but I feel like adults shouldn't judge other adults.
I mean yeah. People used to get married in their early twenties, get a house and everything ages ago. Now that isn't the case anymore. Almost everyone is getting a higher degree nowadays, which also makes for a different life period almost added next to teenage years - which also wasn't a thing in the 19xx's. Times change.
Lastly, we're talking people in their early twenties. I have no issue with people dating with big age gaps, but I basically fully agree and reiterate the brain thing Rummy was talking about.
Yeah times do change. Shit, my doctor grandpa was 27 and married my grandma who was 17. But that was the 1920's. Things are always evolving. I don't have a position on what people 20-25 do or don't do. That's up to the individuals involved and not me to proclaim what is right or wrong for them - the way I see it. I try not to be judgmental about people's relationships or who should do what or whatever. I had those battles with right-wingers 20 years ago who now repeat back to me about gay marriage the shit I was telling them when it was illegal such as "who is it hurting?" Well they didn't feel that way back then when they were spitting back talking points and I was the odd one out telling them what two other adults do does no harm to me and doesn't destroy families and all the other shit they were repeating prior. I'm not talking about older guys wielding power or manipulating shit. I'm just talking in the generic term. Hell I met a dude once whose ole lady went by Slave. And she was his slave. It was bizarre to me, but ultimately not something I could take a position on.
I mean yeah. People used to get married in their early twenties, get a house and everything ages ago. Now that isn't the case anymore. Almost everyone is getting a higher degree nowadays, which also makes for a different life period almost added next to teenage years - which also wasn't a thing in the 19xx's. Times change.
Lastly, we're talking people in their early twenties. I have no issue with people dating with big age gaps, but I basically fully agree and reiterate the brain thing Rummy was talking about.
I got married in my early twenties, bought a house, started a family. I've been called out for it many times that I was young, yet I don't regret it.
Now I'm in my 30s and figuring out the dating scene (in a different country as I grew up). Since I was married for 7 years and lived with her for about 10, most of my choices/desires are based on that experience.
It's good and bad. It's more clear to me now, what kind of person I want to end up with. It is a lot more difficult finding the right person since I know what I don't like in a relationship.
Dating older women makes it easier since they mostly have enough experience (marriage, kids, living together,...). Dating younger I feel like I'm educating them and since they lack experience I feel like I'm just a stepping stone for their future.
Right. When there’s kids involved it’s less about age and more about where you are in your life. Someone could be 37 and childless and have a hard time dating someone who has split custody of kids, as opposed to a single 28 year old mom who would understand how that kind of lifestyle goes
It wasn't always weird. I went to a coed Catholic high school, and there were very few girls in my school who weren't dating guys in college or who worked. It wasn't an issue at all back then who dated who and what the spread was. That became creepy later, but it was totally normal and expected in the 1980's. Times changed and attitudes changed. But I don't judge anyone. If a 30 year old girl wants to hook up with an 80 year old guy or vice versa, that's their business. Same goes for same-side relationships. After his wife passed away, former Pennsylvania Senator Harris Wooford at the ripe age of 90 met a guy who he fell in love with and married who was 40. Might seem weird to some people, but I feel like adults shouldn't judge other adults.
Just because something happened doesn’t mean it was a good idea.
You should definitely judge any person who is dating a high school but they’re not in high school. It’s not ok. (Obviously if they met in high school & still dating after one of them graduates that’s different)
Anything when both partners are over 30 is different, obviously. Sure life experience gaps are still informative but not inherently traumatic
Check out my post under yours to Bing. I didn't say it was a good idea. It just was the way shit was. I mean if I wanted to be selfish about it, I'd say it a terrible idea since I wished most of them then were attracted to their immature friends they attended class with. But at the same time, shit like that worked at the time and was the way shit was. It's really not possible to separate the context from the lens of the time.
Quickly feeling like a piece of shit now lol yikes. Probably shouldn't have answered that question so honestly. 😵💫
GF: “a lot of my exes didn’t know how messed up the dynamic was because they were socialized to want it, just like I was. The fact that you’re being reflective and allowing it to inform your future choices is a good thing”
I agree! Also hey I’ve admitted adultery on here (not that I keep that a secret from my life story). You’re ok dude <3