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Some of the funk personalities and characters were pretty out there (some by design). As a comparison, Funk existed apart from Disco. I think Disco = soul/funk + pop + YT and was palatable to the masses. As at least since it's partly the offspring of funk, you're probably right that one can't be the best while the genre partly responsible is the worst. The only thing I can think of that works is rockabilly and/or the 50's as a precursor to rock and roll of the 1960's.
"I haven't seen any pushback on some random thing i said that no one knew what I was talking about"
It's literally the case that many disco groups are funk groups and vice versa. It's not random lol
I think disco, funk, soul, and R&B are all part of the same family tree, and there are groups and artists that straddle or jump across the line - we had a whole thing in a previous thread as to whether James Brown was a funk or soul artist. But there is funk that's definitely not disco, and there's disco that's definitely not funk, it seems to me.
Post by 3post1jack1 on Aug 9, 2022 12:46:53 GMT -5
for a genre that is actually a specific thing defined by the inherent qualities of the sound of the songs that can't be easily subsumed into a bigger tent genre, the two best on this list are hip-hop and metal.
In Larry's favor though, there's always Wild Cherry from the past to support his case. I don't agree with it because I think there's good funk from the 70's and the last couple decades. But it's just obscure. Yet Wild Cherry exists.
Post by piggy pablo on Aug 9, 2022 12:48:24 GMT -5
Sometimes a band does a rock song and sometimes they do a funk song. I'm a lot less interested in binning artists into genres than I am listening to a funk song and saying "this is good. They are doing funk and I like it." Like this:
Otherwise sure let's just eliminate anything that can be considered a subgenre until pop, rnb, and jazz are the last three left. Seems pretty boring though.
Some of the funk personalities and characters were pretty out there (some by design). As a comparison, Funk existed apart from Disco. I think Disco = soul/funk + pop + YT and was palatable to the masses. As at least since it's partly the offspring of funk, you're probably right that one can't be the best while the genre partly responsible is the worst. The only thing I can think of that works is rockabilly and/or the 50's as a precursor to rock and roll of the 1960's.
Signaling?
So much great disco out there that wasn't sanitized for straight, white people. I know you know this, and yet, every time you go after disco, it's the whitebread stuff you toss out there by way of example. Dirty pool!
for a genre that is actually a specific thing defined by the inherent qualities of the sound of the songs that can't be easily subsumed into a bigger tent genre, the two best on this list are hip-hop and metal.
i'd argue jazz as well
frankly, metal/jazz/hip hop would be a fine top three for me
I've yet to see one person push back on my assertion that disco is basically a subgenre of funk and that it's nonsensical that one could be the worst genre left and the other the best, which is what disco people have been saying, pretty much.
It's almost like it's more about cultural signaling than musical appreciation..
and ive yet to see anyone cite a good "funk" act (aside from P-Funk) that wouldn't just as easily slide into a better genre
This is the argument against folk and I’d rather listen to P Funk and Sly Stone than Joni Mitchell and Cat Stevens
Some of the funk personalities and characters were pretty out there (some by design). As a comparison, Funk existed apart from Disco. I think Disco = soul/funk + pop + YT and was palatable to the masses. As at least since it's partly the offspring of funk, you're probably right that one can't be the best while the genre partly responsible is the worst. The only thing I can think of that works is rockabilly and/or the 50's as a precursor to rock and roll of the 1960's.
Signaling?
So much great disco out there that wasn't sanitized for straight, white people. I know you know this, and yet, every time you go after disco, it's the whitebread stuff you toss out there by way of example. Dirty pool!
haha. I was lending Pablo some support, because there was truth in what he was saying. To someone else's point that disco is funk is disco. I think most disco is funk but funk isn't necessarily disco. It's probably more interchangeable with disco bands than singers (KC & Sunshine for example).
Sly Stone was widely considered the greatest act at Woodstock. Beat classic rock on their home field.
I developed a much deeper understanding of/love for Sly & the Family Stone after doing a deep dive on them post-watching Summer of Soul. Kick ass musician, kick-ass project.
Doesn't psych either predate or define the origins of classic rock as a thing? Doors, Airplane, Hendrix, etc...
no
So what do you call them and Cream, 13th Floor Elevators, Ultimate Spinach, early Pink Floyd and whatever, classic rock? Blues rock? It's psychedelic - even folkier shit like The Byrds. Those bands lived within that term and experience. If "psych" is supposed to be only modern psych or maybe neo-psychedelic from the 1980's (Liverpool scene) I'm listening.
So what do you call them and Cream, 13th Floor Elevators, Ultimate Spinach, early Pink Floyd and whatever, classic rock? Blues rock? It's psychedelic - even folkier shit like The Byrds. Those bands lived within that term and experience. If "psych" is supposed to be only modern psych or maybe neo-psychedelic from the 1980's (Liverpool scene) I'm listening.
So what do you call them and Cream, 13th Floor Elevators, Ultimate Spinach, early Pink Floyd and whatever, classic rock? Blues rock? It's psychedelic - even folkier shit like The Byrds. Those bands lived within that term and experience. If "psych" is supposed to be only modern psych or maybe neo-psychedelic from the 1980's (Liverpool scene) I'm listening.
Beefy fucked up by not defining the genres in the beginning. We're gonna have to start over
Defining genres is dumb. We should quit.
I almost didn't post last night, had everything typed up and was starting at the button like "do we really need this or is the whole thing a fucking disaster"
Post by Jake Jortles on Aug 9, 2022 13:06:40 GMT -5
When someone says "R&B" I can't shake the thought of '90s / '00s boring ass ballads that seem less distinguishable than Reggae songs do from each other. And since they are so over the top and corny I don't even get turned on in the slightest when listening to them and I think that's supposed to be the whole point. The 2010s more experimental / electronic R&B and the broad categorization of R&B maybe pre 90s that I don't even think of as R&B anymore is what stopped me from voting for it in the first few rounds.
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