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Not I. Can already imagine the frustration of sitting in line to get out of the parking lot after sticking around to find out that Conan's very special guests were not all that special. This just feels like stunt casting - hope they prove me wrong.
Same for me, when the '65 Revisited set. Good set, but the lack of "star power" (aka, stupidly bought into the rumors, being a newbie).
I liked the ‘65 set for the exact reason that there was as a lack of star power. I thought Gil and Dave did a great job and Ian from dear tick crushed some tunes.
So who’s the 3 headliners here? No way this fest, that’s supposed to be all about inclusion, is going all guys, right?
Hozier > Mavis - Friday?
I still feel like Gillian could headline Saturday. The order of the announcements could be an indicator too. Gillian being the first announcement, and the last two announcements being headliners for Friday/Sunday. I remember in 2017, Fleet Foxes were the first announcement
Post by stillwater on May 23, 2024 14:04:48 GMT -5
so for my personal tastes, Friday is a nightmare for me. However, when I tried to mock it, it's a pretty deep group of artists. Pretty tough to figure out who will play early in the day. MUNA, Molly, Petey, Allison Russell... a couple of them will have to be in the early afternoon.
Will be fascinating to see how they schedule Saturday. How big is Rhiannon in booking terms? Does Rhiannon > Baez poetry thing > Gillian > TWOD make sense? Killer Mike > Elle King on the Quad? In that scenario Orville is playing pretty early.
On Sunday would they do The Breeders in to Dropkick closing the quad and a Brittany Howard > Cory Wong > Conan run to close the Fort?
Weird lineup is going to lead to weird booking I imagine.
So who’s the 3 headliners here? No way this fest, that’s supposed to be all about inclusion, is going all guys, right?
Hozier > Mavis - Friday?
If you're any believer in what that guy Ziggy Gnardust shared on his Instagram last August, this festival isn't nearly as inclusive as it likes people to think. I'm still undecided on who's to believe in that situation but the support he received on Instagram was compelling. It is a bit weird to me that he got a lot of Deer Tick and Deer Tick-adjacent support and this happens to be the first year they have no involvement whatsoever.
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So who’s the 3 headliners here? No way this fest, that’s supposed to be all about inclusion, is going all guys, right?
Hozier > Mavis - Friday?
If you're any believer in what that guy Ziggy Gnardust shared on his Instagram last August, this festival isn't nearly as inclusive as it likes people to think. I'm still undecided on who's to believe in that situation but the support he received on Instagram was compelling. It is a bit weird to me that he got a lot of Deer Tick and Deer Tick-adjacent support and this happens to be the first year they have no involvement whatsoever.
I'm guessing Hozier is the Friday headliner, Rhiannon Giddens is Saturday and Conan for Sunday. Mavis is probably having her own after party again.
So who’s the 3 headliners here? No way this fest, that’s supposed to be all about inclusion, is going all guys, right?
Hozier > Mavis - Friday?
If you're any believer in what that guy Ziggy Gnardust shared on his Instagram last August, this festival isn't nearly as inclusive as it likes people to think. I'm still undecided on who's to believe in that situation but the support he received on Instagram was compelling. It is a bit weird to me that he got a lot of Deer Tick and Deer Tick-adjacent support and this happens to be the first year they have no involvement whatsoever.
Yup I saw that. Also saw that Portugal the Man liked it as well….
I'm thinking DKM into Conan on Sunday. Wong and Friends is either Quad closer or before DKM. I can't imagine DKM being on the Harbor, to whoever suggested that.
If you're any believer in what that guy Ziggy Gnardust shared on his Instagram last August, this festival isn't nearly as inclusive as it likes people to think. I'm still undecided on who's to believe in that situation but the support he received on Instagram was compelling. It is a bit weird to me that he got a lot of Deer Tick and Deer Tick-adjacent support and this happens to be the first year they have no involvement whatsoever.
I'm not sure who/what to believe in that situation. Part of me believes it, part of me thinks he has a personal grudge and he's off his rocker. I looked at who was liking and commenting....
Yeah, I imagine it's probably somewhere in the middle. Could be better on inclusiveness, but someone's holding a grudge it seems.
I do think that NFF could do a little better on the women, POC, and locals front. But at the same time, it's not like they're being completely ignored either. And let's face it, a lot of popular folk and adjacent music is pretty Wonder Bread.
Post by jongilbert on May 23, 2024 14:36:39 GMT -5
I just read and it and I don’t know, it really boils down to Jay at a table laughing and a “look” that JP Harris gave him. That’s a very loose situation for what he mounted it to mean. I think he genuinely believes what he believes, but there’s a good chance this is possibly an insecurity issue.
so for my personal tastes, Friday is a nightmare for me. However, when I tried to mock it, it's a pretty deep group of artists. Pretty tough to figure out who will play early in the day. MUNA, Molly, Petey, Allison Russell... a couple of them will have to be in the early afternoon.
Will be fascinating to see how they schedule Saturday. How big is Rhiannon in booking terms? Does Rhiannon > Baez poetry thing > Gillian > TWOD make sense? Killer Mike > Elle King on the Quad? In that scenario Orville is playing pretty early.
On Sunday would they do The Breeders in to Dropkick closing the quad and a Brittany Howard > Cory Wong > Conan run to close the Fort?
Weird lineup is going to lead to weird booking I imagine.
I think you’re right, with Mighty Poplar closing the Harbor? The end of the day is going to be rough for conflicts!
So who’s the 3 headliners here? No way this fest, that’s supposed to be all about inclusion, is going all guys, right?
Hozier > Mavis - Friday?
They did last year. As I pointed out a while back, only 4 female acts were on the main stage during the entire 3-day weekend. I’d thought it was a one-off and they’d try a little harder this year, but it seems like another reason to be disappointed about this year’s lineup.
I just read and it and I don’t know, it really boils down to Jay at a table laughing and a “look” that JP Harris gave him. That’s a very loose situation for what he mounted it to mean. I think he genuinely believes what he believes, but there’s a good chance this is possibly an insecurity issue.
Nothing against Ziggy and I hope he can gain some peace/resolution to the situation. Here's what happened to me through a conversation with him. Long story short, he may be correct, we'll never know, but the level of .... accusatory statements with zero facts makes me think its a grudge against the festival and organizers, the demographics of Newport and the rules that are in place for outside gigs during fest weekends.
He reached out, asking me to create a panel consisting of Jay, town leaders, etc. to discuss racism within the Folk community and the residents of Newport. As if we were all targeting HIM, personally. One, I just attend the fest. I don't work for them. I also live in PA -- FAR from Newport!
While I did my best to listen to what he had to say (rambling about Jay causing his car to break down), since I didn't create this community town hall/panel, he called me a racist. I'm racist for not supporting him. You don't throw around certain words when you don't get your way.
Thank you for the insight. I haven't known what to believe since he shared his posts but I'd be lying if I said my opinion of NFF/Jay hadn't been affected.
I just looked back at the other posts Ziggy had shared at the time that he doesn't have pinned on his Instagram and he definitely seems like he has an axe to grind and is more interested in tearing down Jay & friends than discussing the situation with them to come to an understanding. I still wish Jay had reached out to him personally rather than limiting comments on his Instagram and hiding from the situation (at least that's how it looked from the outside) but that doesn't make him a bad person.
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It's funny you say that, I listened to his first album again yesterday for the first time since he played Newport the last time and liked it more than I remember. Then I listened to the second one, which was a bit of a drop off from the first. Then the most recent one, an even further drop haha.
I like some of his stuff for sure and he seems like a swell guy, but, for a lack of better phrase, his "failing upwards" recently has taken me by surprise.
If Adrianne closes the Quad, I will for sure see that whole set and happily catch the remainder of Hozier
The thing is, you only need a single to be popular. And “Too Sweet” is one of the catchiest pop-americana songs I’ve heard in a while.
As for falling upward, I feel the same about Brittany Howard, but it seems most of you like her albums.
"Too Sweet" is great, but it definitely falls into Hozier's R&B bucket. He's got a lot of songs which are definitely some variant of folk - Americana - blues, but this isn't one of them. I can easily imagine Daryl Hall or Al Green (especially Al Green) singing the fuck out of it. "Movement" sounds like it was written for Whitney Houston or Beyonce to cover.