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It feels so weird without a Folk Festival Friday announcement!
Do the after-shows ever offer a hint of who could be involved in a “& friends” set?
Yes, we could get an idea of some special guests through after party announcements but it's unlikely that any massive artists will be announced that way.
For example, when Mumford & Sons headlined unannounced, they played an after party the night before their set but it was billed "Friends of Our Time: Hosted by the Cook Brothers"... or something along those lines.
Upcoming Shows: August 7: Green Day/Smashing Pumpkins/Rancid/The Linda Lindas August 30: Waxahatchee/Snail Mail/Tim Heidecker September 17: Pearl Jam/Glen Hansard September 24: Idles/English Teacher
Thankfully no Black Keys this year, they just cancelled their whole upcoming US tour.
Oh wow. Did they say why?
No clue at all but I took a few seconds to look at their subreddit and saw post about a show with a ton of unsold seats and then people complaining about high prices even for nosebleed seats.
Wonder if they just don't have it to fill those venues. Saving face by cancelling the whole tour??
Or maybe there's other personal reasons and I'm just unaware
Thank you for the insight. I haven't known what to believe since he shared his posts but I'd be lying if I said my opinion of NFF/Jay hadn't been affected.
I just looked back at the other posts Ziggy had shared at the time that he doesn't have pinned on his Instagram and he definitely seems like he has an axe to grind and is more interested in tearing down Jay & friends than discussing the situation with them to come to an understanding. I still wish Jay had reached out to him personally rather than limiting comments on his Instagram and hiding from the situation (at least that's how it looked from the outside) but that doesn't make him a bad person.
100% with you - Jay should have stepped in and heard him out, explained the situation, met up with him even ... I also get the "no comment" approach from his view (not how I would have handled it). I laugh and make faces all the time. If I'm looking in your general area, that certainly doesn't mean I'm judging you based on how you look (which he accused him of). And, Jay left the restaurant that night without saying hello to Ziggy. It was the eve of the Fest. Come on, now. I wouldn't take offense to that.
I will add, too, it got to the point where I would post something relating to a white musician, and he'd post an rolling eye emoji. This went on for weeks. Border-line harassment, so I politely asked him to stop (I'm talking 80+ instances of the emoji/negative emojis), he didn't, so he was removed from the FB group.
The guy sounds bonkers and I think you stand to lose more than gain by allowing that to be an entree into a discussion with Jay or the fest broadly or whatever.
This strikes me as way different than the Emma Swift situation where the Fest legit goofed and made things worse with their initial response.
Post by jongilbert on May 24, 2024 18:09:15 GMT -5
It’s Dave and Gillian, Old Crow is backing them up and guests will come. That’s it, and that’s good, don’t let Larry convince you it isn’t . They deserve that slot . It’s a folk fest, maybe having a folk headliner is a good thing every once in a while.
I’m also all in on Friday was supposed to be black keys and they bailed. I do think Noah is the replacement
It’s Dave and Gillian, Old Crow is backing them up and guests will come. That’s it, and that’s good, don’t let Larry convince you it isn’t . They deserve that slot . It’s a folk fest, maybe having a folk headliner is a good thing every once in a while.
I’m also all in on Friday was supposed to be black keys and they bailed. I do think Noah is the replacement
Yeah I think it’s incredibly risky to book a guy that bailed on you last year, played his home show the next day, and then promote him to headliner.
It’s Dave and Gillian, Old Crow is backing them up and guests will come. That’s it, and that’s good, don’t let Larry convince you it isn’t . They deserve that slot . It’s a folk fest, maybe having a folk headliner is a good thing every once in a while.
I’m also all in on Friday was supposed to be black keys and they bailed. I do think Noah is the replacement
Yeah I think it’s incredibly risky to book a guy that bailed on you last year, played his home show the next day, and then promote him to headliner.
I seriously hope you’re right, but I would have to imagine that in this business, holding grudges isn’t in your interest. At the end of the day, it would appease a large amount of the attendees and I think Jay cares more about that than saying fuck you to Noah Kahan. Although, I hope that’s exactly what’s happening lol
Yeah I think it’s incredibly risky to book a guy that bailed on you last year, played his home show the next day, and then promote him to headliner.
I seriously hope you’re right, but I would have to imagine that in this business, holding grudges isn’t in your interest. At the end of the day, it would appease a large amount of the attendees and I think Jay cares more about that than saying fuck you to Noah Kahan. Although, I hope that’s exactly what’s happening lol
I’m not saying you don’t rebook the guy, but you put him pre headline instead.
I seriously hope you’re right, but I would have to imagine that in this business, holding grudges isn’t in your interest. At the end of the day, it would appease a large amount of the attendees and I think Jay cares more about that than saying fuck you to Noah Kahan. Although, I hope that’s exactly what’s happening lol
I’m not saying you don’t rebook the guy, but you put him pre headline instead.
I seriously hope you’re right, but I would have to imagine that in this business, holding grudges isn’t in your interest. At the end of the day, it would appease a large amount of the attendees and I think Jay cares more about that than saying fuck you to Noah Kahan. Although, I hope that’s exactly what’s happening lol
I’m not saying you don’t rebook the guy, but you put him pre headline instead.
I wonder if him appearing with Hozier is a runaround on that
It’s Dave and Gillian, Old Crow is backing them up and guests will come. That’s it, and that’s good, don’t let Larry convince you it isn’t . They deserve that slot . It’s a folk fest, maybe having a folk headliner is a good thing every once in a while.
I’m also all in on Friday was supposed to be black keys and they bailed. I do think Noah is the replacement
That’s cool for Saturday. Dave is a Rhody native too, always liked that connection.
It’s Dave and Gillian, Old Crow is backing them up and guests will come. That’s it, and that’s good, don’t let Larry convince you it isn’t . They deserve that slot . It’s a folk fest, maybe having a folk headliner is a good thing every once in a while.
I’m also all in on Friday was supposed to be black keys and they bailed. I do think Noah is the replacement
Yeah I think it’s incredibly risky to book a guy that bailed on you last year, played his home show the next day, and then promote him to headliner.
I hope some of you are never my boss in the future for how you seek retribution on a sick employee
I have no idea what went down with Noah and Jay, but I’d hope Jay would give him grace if indeed he was in a hospital and a doctor did tell him to rest for 24 hours regardless of what us armchair doctors think about that prescription.
Who knows how emotional Noah was about the situation. For all we know, it’s been a dream of his to perform at Newport.
Last Edit: May 25, 2024 3:37:12 GMT -5 by k2b - Back to Top
I’m not saying you don’t rebook the guy, but you put him pre headline instead.
Fair point
He's now headlining 20K - 40K venues and selling out two night runs in NYC and Boston in a matter of minutes, and selling out single nights at amphitheaters and arenas everywhere else.
How does anyone headline after him, unless it's a living legend like Joni Mitchell or Paul Simon?
He's now headlining 20K - 40K venues and selling out two night runs in NYC and Boston in a matter of minutes, and selling out single nights at amphitheaters and arenas everywhere else.
How does anyone headline after him, unless it's a living legend like Joni Mitchell or Paul Simon?
I mean - you just do it. Our capacity is 10k (if you believe what the fest says).
He's now headlining 20K - 40K venues and selling out two night runs in NYC and Boston in a matter of minutes, and selling out single nights at amphitheaters and arenas everywhere else.
How does anyone headline after him, unless it's a living legend like Joni Mitchell or Paul Simon?
I mean - you just do it. Our capacity is 10k (if you believe what the fest says).
I guess what I’m trying to say is that he’s only been hugely popular recently. I don’t feel like he’s in that space where he’s proven it, yet.
I could be wrong, and I’m OK being wrong. But that’s my take on it.
I got hooked when his album came out, and I have fizzled from it very fast! He then released the same album again, but with duets…here we are 2 years later.
I mean - you just do it. Our capacity is 10k (if you believe what the fest says).
I guess what I’m trying to say is that he’s only been hugely popular recently. I don’t feel like he’s in that space where he’s proven it, yet.
I could be wrong, and I’m OK being wrong. But that’s my take on it.
I got hooked when his album came out, and I have fizzled from it very fast! He then released the same album again, but with duets…here we are 2 years later.
I'm the same way. Saw him at Boston Calling last year and really enjoyed the album as I was ramping up beforehand and was very moved by his performance. Flash forward to this year, I got a ticket to one of his Fenway shows, but later decided to sell it online through Fenway's face value resale because there were a couple of other shows that week which were more appealing to me and I'd rather hold off and see him again when he's released a genuinely new album.
I guess what I’m trying to say is that he’s only been hugely popular recently. I don’t feel like he’s in that space where he’s proven it, yet.
I could be wrong, and I’m OK being wrong. But that’s my take on it.
I got hooked when his album came out, and I have fizzled from it very fast! He then released the same album again, but with duets…here we are 2 years later.
I'm the same way. Saw him at Boston Calling last year and really enjoyed the album as I was ramping up beforehand and was very moved by his performance. Flash forward to this year, I got a ticket to one of his Fenway shows, but later decided to sell it online through Fenway's face value resale because there were a couple of other shows that week which were more appealing to me and I'd rather hold off and see him again when he's released a genuinely new album.
Yeah I saw him in Saratoga Springs last year, big crowd, and left kinda underwhelmed. Didn’t translate well at all.