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Post by steveternal on Feb 6, 2008 12:09:25 GMT -5
littlebirdie said:
what's your source for capp saying "no big names will be added including headliners." just curious I'd like to check it out.
"More acts will be announced in the coming weeks, but fans shouldn't get their hopes up for any more big announcements.
"I don't think you?ll see (any more) major headliners," Capps said. "We never have our complete lineup locked down, but we're further along (this year) than we?ve ever been in the past.""
Post by steveternal on Feb 6, 2008 12:10:47 GMT -5
legend, they did it as a JOKE. They wanted to address all the Zeppelin rumors, answer that one big question right up front, and they did it with a joke.
Post by ginasupercat on Feb 6, 2008 13:03:19 GMT -5
Hi all, interesting points on all sides...here's what still confuses me: if LeZ Zep press release was to quash rumors, why aren't they listed on the official lineup poster at Bonnaroo.com? That at least seems strange to me...Lez Zep lists the Roo confirmation on myspace page...EDIT: ah, must have missed it, there it is now <grin> but I could have sworn I copied the list from there and there wasn't anything between Donavon Frankenreiter and State Radio earlier!
Given that 80,000 (About Roo capacity) people registered for the tickets to the 02 concert *PER MINUTE* and a total of 20 *million* people registered for the ticket drawing overall, I think Roo would simply break if Led Zep was announced as a headliner...it'd be the first US show in decades, good gawd dayum....
I don't know what that means (it could support the not-going-to-be-there arguments or it could support the non-headlining-Super-Jam thingy arguments)
They can't announce zep till after tickets are on sale. 20 million people trying to get the O2 tickets? There would be no ROO fans there, just zep fans. 240 will be cheap for the Zep tour imo, so of course the hardcore zep fans wouldnt have a problem paying that. I think Zep is truly the only band whose fans could ruin Roo, not because of how they act, but because they will scoop up the tickets so quickly, and post em on ebay for 1k+ a pop
I would suggest if Superfly is not going to announce Led Zeppelin as a headiner for the reasons the conspiracy suggest, we should let the rumors die so we CAN get tickets instead of feeding the fire of a rumor that in all likelihood is false. That way, whether Zeppelin plays or doesn't play, we can get our tix.
We're already going to be fighting some Metallica and PJ fans...
Post by ginasupercat on Feb 6, 2008 13:48:44 GMT -5
No kidding, we're all going to go anyway soooo...but I wouldn't worry too much about discussion here fueling major rumors (AP and other news sources are the big offender, really) since it's a wee bit off the track, and you have to know what you are looking for to get here (at least I did when I joined)...<grin>...but it was kinda fun to try and solve the music mystery/intrigue this morning, thanks all!
Best wishes to all & here's hoping fans of Roo will have no trouble getting tickets and then, after that, come what may <smile>
Post by spookymonster on Feb 6, 2008 13:50:34 GMT -5
hippienaustin said:
why people think that superfly would have announced LZ on the first day is beyond me.
Because it would have sold out tickets sooner and ensured the profitability of their financial venture. Bonnaroo makes the same amount of money whether they sell out in 5 minutes or 5 months. If they're so concerned about making sure the fans get the tickets 'before the scalpers', why would they let all the Peal Jam and Metallica fans scoop up the tickets so early? Why wouldn't they simply delay all the headliners until May, so that the 'true fans' that were hip to all the rumors could get their tix first?
Why is that so hard to believe? I would love it if Zep played.. in fact, the hope of a Plant Superjam is keeping me going. Anything beyond that is a big, big plus. But I'm not going to bank my entire weekend on it...
Hi all, interesting points on all sides...here's what still confuses me: if LeZ Zep press release was to quash rumors, why aren't they listed on the official lineup poster at Bonnaroo.com? That at least seems strange to me
I don't think the lineup poster is in any way done. Changes will be made, bands will be added, etc.
Post by spookymonster on Feb 6, 2008 13:53:26 GMT -5
ideoteque said:
uh, doesnt like - every news site in the world confirm zeppelin?
or did i miss something.
it seems like they might be holding off on announcing them - not sure why - maybe to allow the OG fans to buy tix?
Nope... most of them have retracted, pulled, or edited their original statements. It appears that they were either following each other's lead without reading the actual press release, or just assumed Lez Zeppelin was a typo.
Well its over, Chicago Sun-Times printed an article that says it was all a huge misunderstanding heres the link: www.suntimes.com/entertainment/music/779813,zep020608.article
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Post by codename646 on Feb 6, 2008 14:14:12 GMT -5
ewsc said:
Well its over, Chicago Sun-Times printed an article that says it was all a huge misunderstanding heres the link: www.suntimes.com/entertainment/music/779813,zep020608.article
Post by GratefulHippie on Feb 6, 2008 14:22:43 GMT -5
spookymonster said:
hippienaustin said:
why people think that superfly would have announced LZ on the first day is beyond me.
Because it would have sold out tickets sooner and ensured the profitability of their financial venture. Bonnaroo makes the same amount of money whether they sell out in 5 minutes or 5 months. If they're so concerned about making sure the fans get the tickets 'before the scalpers', why would they let all the Peal Jam and Metallica fans scoop up the tickets so early? Why wouldn't they simply delay all the headliners until May, so that the 'true fans' that were hip to all the rumors could get their tix first?
Why is that so hard to believe? I would love it if Zep played.. in fact, the hope of a Plant Superjam is keeping me going. Anything beyond that is a big, big plus. But I'm not going to bank my entire weekend on it...
its hard to believe because it would be ridiculous to announce a legendary band whose fans spans DECADES on the first day. yeah, there are some PJ and Metallica die-hards. but you can't honestly believe there are as many fans who would be clamoring for tickets to see them as there would be for LZ.
and if bonnaroo doesn't NEED a way to sell out, then why would they feel the need to announce LZ? superfly is trying to hold off the scalpers and undesirables, and allow for regular roo'ers to have their shot. why is THAT so hard to believe?
Post by spookymonster on Feb 6, 2008 14:50:13 GMT -5
hippienaustin said:
and if bonnaroo doesn't NEED a way to sell out, then why would they feel the need to announce LZ?
Because it would sell tickets faster, and that's the bottom line. Being 'reasonably sure' you'll sell out and actually having all 80,000 tickets sold are two separate things. Given the choice of the two, A.C. would be fiscally irresponsible for choosing the former.
superfly is trying to hold off the scalpers and undesirables, and allow for regular roo'ers to have their shot. why is THAT so hard to believe?
Because it requires a complete disregard for every fact and statement presented so far; the band says they aren't playing, Ashley Capps says they aren't playing, and every major news outlet has now confirmed that they aren't playing.
[edit] And if you don't think there are a handful of deluded scalpers out there planning on scoffing up tickets 'just in case'....
Post by GratefulHippie on Feb 6, 2008 15:00:30 GMT -5
Because it would sell tickets faster, and that's the bottom line. Being 'reasonably sure' you'll sell out and actually having all 80,000 tickets sold are two separate things. Given the choice of the two, A.C. would be fiscally irresponsible for choosing the former.
i'm sorry, but i just don't agree. when is the last time Roo hasn't sold out?
Because it requires a complete disregard for every fact and statement presented so far; the band says they aren't playing, Ashley Capps says they aren't playing, and every major news outlet has now confirmed that they aren't playing.
i won't repeat myself, but my previous statements have explained why i feel this is a cover-up
Post by hootymcboob on Feb 6, 2008 15:01:25 GMT -5
hippienaustin said:
spookymonster said:
and if bonnaroo doesn't NEED a way to sell out, then why would they feel the need to announce LZ? superfly is trying to hold off the scalpers and undesirables, and allow for regular roo'ers to have their shot. why is THAT so hard to believe?
So, if Bonnaroo can sell out with the current lineup, that has three legit headliners on it already (why would Phil Lesh come back to a festival he headlined two years ago and play a non-headlining set?). Why would they need to spend the HUGE amount of money it would cost to add LZ? That serves no reason other than to cost them money. This lineup will sell the fest out. There is no need to waste the premium of adding Zepellin, which cuts straight into the profits of an already sold out fest, like you've said.
I think you guys think that Supefly entertainment loves you way more than they actually do. They are here to make money. There's a reason they have advertising and marketing everywhere; they are a corporation. Adding the biggest band ever to a festival thats already sold out, and thus won't them any more money is the stupidest financial decision they could possibly make.
But, maybe I'm just jealous cause I can't come this year.
Led Zeppelin isn't going to happen. Some of you simply aren't taking no for an answer.
“I don’t think you’ll see (any more) major headliners,” Capps said. “We never have our complete lineup locked down, but we’re further along (this year) than we’ve ever been in the past.”
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When asked outright, Capps denied that the band would make a surprise appearance. “Believe me, if Zeppelin was going to be there we would be shouting it from the rooftops,” he said, adding that no one would be more surprised than him and his team if the band did perform.
It doesn't get any clearer than that.
And why would Bonnaroo book a cover band if the real band was playing?
Post by GratefulHippie on Feb 6, 2008 15:09:05 GMT -5
i'm very much aware of marketing techniques, and reasons why they wouldn't have LZ
and please understand i'm not CONVINCED they are coming. however, i am also not convinced they won't. even if it means JPJ or Page at a superjam. i'm simply speculating and keeping my glass half full
Post by GratefulHippie on Feb 6, 2008 15:40:02 GMT -5
this really shouldn't stress you out so much. let those of us who are dreamers continue to do so. if we're wrong, we're wrong. in any case, i'll still be at the farm.
Post by lvrpoolicculus on Feb 6, 2008 16:07:32 GMT -5
I'm still predicting Zeppelin headlining and here's my reasoning:
This all started December 1 last year with this statement being told anonymously to a music mag:
"“Zeppelin just confirmed for Bonnaroo. They can't officially announce until after the London gig so pass it on! Also Metallica is confirmed on the bill too!”
Okay, so this was during Zeppelin practicing for the reunion show, and the management probably setting up the preliminaries for a soon to come 'world tour'. Internet rumors zoomed around, something Superfly NEVER wanted.
Superfly then issues this denial on December 3rd:
"The rumors that are out there about the Bonnaroo 2008 headliners are inaccurate. We're very excited about the lineup that we're putting together for this year's festival. We'll be announcing the confirmed lineup toward the end of January/beginning of February."
Not only that, but Metallica management came out the same day and "flat out denied" ever being booked for Roo, an even stronger and more specific rejection than that of Roo.
So then comes the Daily Mirror headline at the beginning on Dec 31 with NEW sources proclaiming that Zeppelin has officially been confirmed to headline Roo.
Again, Superfly issues another denial saying, ""It's still a rumor and the information in the Mirror is inaccurate," said Ken Weinstein, president of Big Hassle. "I speak on behalf of (promoter) Superfly and AC Entertainment."
So we come to the day before the lineup is announced and NME claims to announce a 'surprise' act for Bonnaroo. They announce Zep was CONFIRMED (the 3rd confirmation news item in 2 months) and yet had to change their story when Superfly didn't announce them.
Now, as for the people telling me I'm a conspiracy theorist, fine so be it. Already one act from the original 'conspiracy' has been confirmed, so what are the odds that the first band it mentioned are also on the bill? And you offer 'quotes' from Superfly as proof that somehow there will be no more major headliners...Well guess what, Superfly and Metallica were full of it on their quotes, so why can't Superfly still be yanking our chain?
I find it too hard to believe that dozens of people at NME misread LEZ for an entire day. Something fishy is going on, and there's no way all these sources are pertaining to the Lez Zeppelin thing. Just look at the timeline of events.
Imo, Superfly will deny this all the way up until the schedule is released, when low and behold, Jack Johnson is not the 3rd headliner but Zeppelin is, and it is here when Zepp would also finally announce a world tour for sept/fall of 08.
Okay, so I do sound like a conspiracy nutjob, but there's no way Superfly would screw over its loyal fans by having many get shut out during the ticket frenzy which would ensue.