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I did a search and I could not find a SUPERBOWL thread. Any thoughts on the game? I don't see why Indy is such a favorite. I think that the Bears are going to take it to them, as long as they dont have that "I am just happy to be here" syndrome going on. Rex knows what to do, Thomas Jones is a stud - they need to give him the ball more, the D is still great even after losing a couple key guys, and their special teams are probably the best in the business with Hester in the fold.
Good call. This should have been started a week ago.
I'm taking the Bears +7 ... sorry I look at it from a betting perspective. 7 points is a whole lot to give a team that has been playing very solid and has a strong defense. But to keep on theme:
Bears 20 Colts 24
Manning MVP (He won't deserve it as Reggie Wayne and Addai will both have better games, but he'll get it out of hype/pity)
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Feb 1, 2007 22:10:09 GMT -5
Hmm, i think this is going to be a very close game, but with tommy harris missing the game, and i think more importantly mike brown out, im gonna have to give this to the colts, 31-27. I dont know why, but i have the feeling this will be a higher scoring game, but not a shootout.
im going bears 17 colts 6. i dont think the colts will be able to move th ball against the bears. as long as grossman dosent give up field position i doubt the colts will manage a td. the colts played well against the pats but they didnt get the ball in the endzone effectively before that game. and the bears are gonna get more pressure on manning. if brown and harris were healthy id say colts 3 bears 24 .
Yeah, I think that the +7 is the biggest sucker bet I have heard in a while. Of course the Bears could have problems with Brown and Harris out, but they played pretty damn well last game on D. Urlacher is going to have to take the game over and get intimidating on Peyton and Addai.
All the Florida guys will bring the Bears through. We all know it is the year of the Gator and the Bears have more of them in more key positions. Perma-job Grossman (we call him that because he always has an ear to ear smile, like some one who would be getting a........well you know what I am saying) will do enough to win the game.
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Wow. I really don't think the Bears are gonna win. I think they might cover the spread. But I think Grossman makes one too many mistakes, and that's the difference. Turnovers are gonna be key, cause the bears thrive on em. If they don't get any, or they turn it over more than the Colts, they loose. I just have faith, that now that Peyton's finally gotten there, he's not gonna blow it. He'll have an answer to anything and everything the Bears throw at him. He'll be obsessively watching film all week, even more than usual. And the SB jitters will get to Grossman. If the Bears are smart they'll keep the ball out of his hands, as much as possible.
my wife got me a 5 foot tall bear butller to go next to my bar for christmas. I went out to try and find a Bears hat for him for our superbowl party. Finding a Bears hat in Detroit is like finding crack at church. I found a colts hat. I gotta 5 foot bear colt fan. Unfortunatly I am a lions fan so the best I can hope for is a good game. bears 32 colts 27
Colts 30 Bears 17...I don't think the Bears' offense will be able to put up many points and I guarantee that Peyton will be ON in the Superbowl. Grossman will not have a good game, Sanders and Freeney will help stop the run (especially if they rely on Jones more than Benson like usual), and the Colts will get a good lead and not look back. That's my take, anyway.
Post by fordgoose15 on Feb 2, 2007 21:09:23 GMT -5
I am a Packers fan so I admit that my post is decidedly anti-Bears. However, When the Bears played the Saints they had zero penalties until a blatant false start in the 4th quarter??? that's not great football, that's blind officiating. And the Bears were a miraculous benefactor of a 2006 rule change that allowed them to challenge that fumble call. Grossman has had too much luck in the last two games. I say all of his bad luck comes crashing down on him in the big game and he has one of his -2 passer rating games. I have to pray to Zeus that the Colts win.
Being a long time Colts sufferer(I mean fan) if you give Manning 2 weeks to prepare for an opponent he will come out smoking! The Bears may hang with them for 3 quarters but the Colts will pull away in the forth. The pressure is all on Grossman. Manning beat his nemesis in the Patriots and he has no pressure on him. He is one cool customer and he will be relaxed and he will be patient. He will pick the Bears apart and the Colts defense will play well enough that he wont have to score a huge amount of points. The Colts will cover and my prediction is Colts 31 Bears 17.
I am a Packers fan so I admit that my post is decidedly anti-Bears. However, When the Bears played the Saints they had zero penalties until a blatant false start in the 4th quarter??? that's not great football, that's blind officiating.
What else should they have been penalized on?????? Don't blame the officials for the Bears' discipline.
Obviously I'm a Bears fan. I like being big underdogs - and I honestly think either team has a 50/50 shot at winning. I really think the Bears D can pull out the victory, or at least cover the spread.
The Bears haven't exactly beat anybody worth mentioning this season. Even the Saints were overrated because of their beatdowns of Dallas, New York and the McNabb-less Eagles. The best team the Bears played all season, the Pats, they lost to. The Colts on the other hand have beaten pretty much every team worth mentioning this year in every fashion you can think of. I understand the fervor of the Bears fans, but your team IS the underdog for a reason. You haven't beaten anybody. Your best win came against the Jets, a team that lost in the first round of the AFC playoffs to the team that beat you, who in turn got beat TWICE by the Colts (both home and away).
But to be fair, Grossman isn't the worst qb ever to play the super bowl. Nowhere near in fact. I think he's Kerry Collins reincarnated. He throws the deep ball great, but isn't all there mentally and has injury issues. He lets short passes get away from him too much (reminds me of a pitcher who can't keep his fastball down). I like the character the Bears defense and special teams has shown this season, but the offense has just been lackluster in my book. Even the running game is underwhelming considering the talent the Bears have.
I can see the Bears pulling off a close victory, but I can also see a Colts blowout being far more likely. Sorry. Just don't buy the Bears. If Grossman blows it like I think he might, I would make Atlanta a deal they couldn't refuse for Schaub. The Bears are too talented to spend time bringing along a young guy.
Last Edit: Feb 3, 2007 0:11:57 GMT -5 by dudezer47 - Back to Top
The Bears haven't exactly beat anybody worth mentioning this season. Even the Saints were overrated because of their beatdowns of Dallas, New York and the McNabb-less Eagles. The best team the Bears played all season, the Pats, they lost to. The Colts on the other hand have beaten pretty much every team worth mentioning this year in every fashion you can think of.
I understand the fervor of the Bears fans, but your team IS the underdog for a reason. You haven't beaten anybody. Your best win came against the Jets, a team that lost in the first round of the AFC playoffs to the team that beat you, who in turn got beat TWICE by the Colts (both home and away).
First of all, no one can be blamed for their schedules. But the Bears whooped the defending NFC champ Seahawks (Alexander would not have made a difference, as shown in the playoffs), the Giants, and the Rams ALL on the road. Not to mention, they went 7-1 in the division, and in that one loss, they had nothing to play for.
How can you say the Jets were the Bears best win? So the Bears beat them by 10 points, whereas the Colts only beat them by 3. I know those numbers are meaningless, but to call that the Bears' toughest win is crazy. Sure, the Bears lost in New England - a game they played damn close - at the end of a three game road trip. So what?
The Bears have blown opponents out this year, while only a handful of games have been close. The Colts have been the complete opposite, winning most of their games by less than seven points.
I'm not saying any of this guarantees a Bears victory. Just don't underestimate them.
The Jets had the best record of any team you listed. As a matter of fact, they went 3-1 against your division wiping their asses with both the Packers and the Vikings. ONE of the teams you listed as an impressive win had more than 8 wins. And YES, Alexander would have made a difference as witnessed by your near loss to the same (and might I add) worse team a couple months later.
The Colts won IN Denver, IN New England, IN Baltimore and IN New York (twice). Those teams average total of wins? 10. So don't come to me with we beat the Rams, Seahawks and Giants because it simply doesn't compare. The schedule in the AFC is way harder, the teams much better. There are 3-4 AFC teams that would have probably made the playoffs in the NFC over the Seahawks, Cowboys, Giants and probably the Eagles (FYI, I'm a Cowboys fan saying that).
I'm not saying don't think your is capable of winning. I'm just pointing out the obvious. The Colts should be regarded as the runaway favorite. They've beat better competition. They've been better longer. They have more proven players. The Bears have a playoff run against the worst collection of NFC teams arguably in the history of the conference. In their last four games, the Cowboys, Giants & Seahawks were a combined 4-8. They sucked. It may not be the Bears fault, but I cannot honestly tell whether the Bears are as good as their record or whether they'd just be an AFC wild card. They can't help it if the rest of the conference (including the Saints) is pretty much crap. But if crap is all I have to judge the Bears by, I can't say they're better than the Colts.
This of course does not preclude the possibility of a Bears upset. But it would be just that. Just like the Cowboys, Titans, Texans & Jaguars beating the Colts were upsets.
Last Edit: Feb 3, 2007 1:05:49 GMT -5 by dudezer47 - Back to Top
I just don't think common opponents in different conferences matter as much as you make it sound. NFL teams build their rosters and gameplans to beat their division and other top conference rivals. Both Indy and Chicago did that remarkably well. Given the chance, I'm relatively sure the Bears could have easily won in Denver and in Baltimore - two overrated teams in my book.
Anyway, at least my friends, I don't think there are too many Bears fans who honestly expect a win tomorrow. We're all positive that the Bears have a strong chance, but that they need to do a lot of things right. There is no question that it would be an upset, but not a huge one - certainly more likely than the Cowboys, Titans, Texans, or Jags beating the Colts.
Post by chicagorooer on Feb 3, 2007 12:10:33 GMT -5
If the colts put up 28 points they will win. The bears need to control the ball and keep Manning off the field as much as possible. Bears need to keep this a low scoring close game. We'll see but DA BEARS I will cheer for and drink to all weekend. In chicago many are kicking off the superbowl festivities tonight//////ohh yeahhh
The Bears don't suck. The NFC sucks. I think there are a couple college teams that could clean up any NFC team. The Bears definitely deserve to be there. The AFC has been so dominant, and continues to do so. We'll see if this year is the same.
I am so psyched it is ridiculous. I am also really confident that the Bears will win at this point. Of course the Colts could blow the Bears out, but it could go the other way too. Does anyone remember what they thought of the Colts three or four weeks ago? Does anyone remember that they can't stop the run (their playoff opponents have given up on it way to early, and only one was a good rushing team)?
I think the Pats, Chargers and maybe Ravens would have given the Bears serious problems, but the Colts don't match up very well with them at all. Good Rex will show up, Brian Urlacher will play like a man possessed, the Bears return game will make more than one huge play, and Benson and Jones (I'm thinking maybe mostly Benson) will punch the undersized Colts D in the mouth all day long. Rex will make one or two play action deep balls to Berrian or Rashied Davis work. The crappy Colts cornerbacks will be abused. Urlacher will keep Dallas Clark in check. The Colts will put some points up but the Bears will match him, pick him off a few times and make him pouty and sad.
Post by ziggyandthemonkeys on Feb 4, 2007 1:36:03 GMT -5
I dont know, its easy to say the bears will play smash mouth offense, but i dont think they have a more physical running game then either kansas or baltimore. The colts defense has stepped it up in the playoffs, its that simple. Now they just have to hold that form for one more game. It will definatly be good and close, and i think it could come down to special teams, because the colts coverage has been suspect.
I dont know, its easy to say the bears will play smash mouth offense, but i dont think they have a more physical running game then either kansas or baltimore. The colts defense has stepped it up in the playoffs, its that simple. Now they just have to hold that form for one more game. It will definatly be good and close, and i think it could come down to special teams, because the colts coverage has been suspect.
It is easy to say that they will commit to the run more than KC or Baltimore. Before the playoffs, anyone and everyone agreed that the Colts run D sucked. Then this happened:
vs. KC (9th ranked run O, 32 rushes per game average): Larry Johnson ran 13 times. Trent Green sucked. KC called and played a terrible offensive game. The Colts played great defense and a good game, but their newly-found "great run defense" was only on the field for 13 plays. This was definitely the best run defense they played all year.
vs. Bal (25th ranked run O, 30 rushes per game average): The Colts actually played relatively poorly against the run in this one. The Ravens couldn't run the ball all year, only ran the ball 20 times (about what you would expect in a horrible offensive performance), and actually averaged 4.2 yards a carry (vs. 3.4 during the season). Steve McNair was 18-29 with 2 ints and no TDs. Again, the Colts played great D this game, but it was great pass D, not great run D in any sense of the term.
vs. NE (12th ranked run O, 31 rushes per game average): The Pats ran 23 times for 93 yards, exactly equalling their 3.9 yards/carry average during the year. Anyone who watched the game can remember how they completely (and inexplicably) they abandoned the run in the second half. This wasn't a great defensive game by any standard. The Pats rushing offense was pretty decent despite the fact that they abandoned the run late.
So basically the Colts and great Bob Sanders, who you'd think was bound for Canton from the breathless way analysts and announces slobber all over him lately, played good run D against Larry Johnson and the Chiefs, and that's it. During the year they were ridiculously, record settingly bad at defending the run. They've played a bit better in the playoffs. In each game they've stacked the line and dared QB's to beat them with the pass. The Chiefs gave up running (which the Bears won't do under any circumstances). This strategy plays into the Bears and Rex Grossman's play-action strength. This game could really turn on whether Rex connects on the first deep ball oppurtunit he gets off of play action (he has connected many times this year).
Oh, and by the way, the Bears have the number one rushing offense in the playoffs (158 yards per game) if we are using the last few games as the standard.
I'm just too excited to sleep and trying to wittle away the hours between now and kickoff and this point...um, I'll shut up now.
And I am rooting for the colts (sorry ka) as a UT fan with Peyton and all.
I am really shocked that no one is giving chicago a chance. Much like no one gave uf a chance against THE osu.
I think the bears are going to shock the world today with solid defense and a great performance by grossman.
I think no matter what happens, its going to be a great, and close game, no blowout.
Dude, that is the exact score of the Madden simulation I just played. It was a great game: Manning started out on fire, hitting Wayne and Harrison twice each for a 28-7 Colts lead at halftime (a Thomas Jones fumble and an interception didn't help). The Bears couldn't really get their running game going. Then in the second half, Rex took over mixing runs with Play Action passes, and the defense became smothering. Muhamed racked up 200 yds and two TDs, and Grossman hit Berrian with a play action pass to tie it 28-28. A late field goal and defensive stand clinched it for the Bears.
Post by iridethecannibus on Feb 4, 2007 14:29:11 GMT -5
GO PACKERS!
Haha, but the next best thing is dA Bears. I know we're supposed to be arch nemesisis (i don't think that's a word in the plural like that, nemesees?) but hey, they're the next closest thing. Sorry, I actually have no useful imput on this subject whatsoever, but I'm at work and that sucks. I'd much rather be munchin bloody marys and chicken wings and nachos.
so the best I can hope for is a good game. 
