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Post by NothingButFlowers on May 13, 2008 9:37:32 GMT -5
As for gas prices, all I can say is, "UGH!" We are skipping Bonnaroo this year and going to Rothbury. The only real downside to that is that Roo is about a 3 hour drive, while it looks like Roth is going to be about 13. And we are taking an SUV. I don't even want to think about how much it is going to cost us to get there and back!
It's a term that homosexuals have adopted to describe themselves. So please explain to me how the word itself is offensive or inappropriate.
Because in no way shape or form was it used to describe a person's sexuality. You are correct that Gay/Homosexual are similar non-offensive terms on their own. But if you look at context it was not used in this manner. Gay was used as a synonym for sh!tty and the two are not exquivalent.
I see your point - but if people can take the word gay and change its definition to be a synonym for homosexual - then why can't people use the word as a synonym for whatever they want? Homosexuals don't own the rights to words they choose to use to describe themselves.
no one said they couldnt. I said right in my post that you can say what you want but when you do it in a public forum you should expect to be challenged. Language evolves, definitions change but the definitions we choose are a reflection of ourselves.
Because in no way shape or form was it used to describe a person's sexuality. You are correct that Gay/Homosexual are similar non-offensive terms on their own. But if you look at context it was not used in this manner. Gay was used as a synonym for sh!tty and the two are not exquivalent.
I see your point - but if people can take the word gay and change its definition to be a synonym for homosexual - then why can't people use the word as a synonym for whatever they want? Homosexuals don't own the rights to words they choose to use to describe themselves.
Well if you change the way that all of society generally uses that specific word, then that just might work. Good luck with that.
gay adjective, -er, -est, noun, adverb –adjective 1. having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music. 2. bright or showy: gay colors; gay ornaments. 3. given to or abounding in social or other pleasures: a gay social season. 4. licentious; dissipated; wanton: unrestrained by law or general morality; lawless; immoral. 5. homosexual. 6. of, indicating, or supporting homosexual interests or issues: a gay organization. –noun 7. a homosexual person, esp. a male. –adverb 8. in a gay manner.
In my opinion, he used the word "gay" in the context of #4, therefore there is no need for everyone to get upset.
no one said they couldnt. I said right in my post that you can say what you want but when you do it in a public forum you should expect to be challenged. Language evolves, definitions change but the definitions we choose are a reflection of ourselves.
I guess we just see this differently. For what it's worth - I love everybody and don't care at all what anyone's sexual orientation is. We're all in this thing together. I just thought the dude got called out a bit harshly for what he said. Peace and love to all. And with that - I'm gonna step out of this thread now.
Then what about Fat VS Phat? I'm gonna sue somebody, cuz my feelings got a boo-boo. What if you're overweight, but also Urban Hip, and ALSo a homosexual, that has a happy attitude? Are you then a Fat, Phat, Gay, Gay?
I think as we get closer to 'roo it might be worthwhile to check out the day you leave and track your trip - you can at least see where the cheaper gas is
I don't know how you all do it, but last year my 2 buddies and I each brought $100 and put it in an envelope and just used that to pay for gas there and back. We had enough money left over on the way back that we bought dinner for all of us.
^^^that makes sense - I always try to have planned how much it will cost us for gas and that gets put seperate so that we definately have money to get home
I don't know how you all do it, but last year my 2 buddies and I each brought $100 and put it in an envelope and just used that to pay for gas there and back. We had enough money left over on the way back that we bought dinner for all of us.
besides, there is no point complaining about gas prices right now. when it gets to be like, 7 bucks a gallon - they we are all collectively fucked. that's probably about the point that everything gets more expensive. as in *everything*.
I don't know how you all do it, but last year my 2 buddies and I each brought $100 and put it in an envelope and just used that to pay for gas there and back. We had enough money left over on the way back that we bought dinner for all of us.
you better put more in that envelope this year!
Well luckily we have another guy coming so that ups the pot by another $100. And this year we'll be taking my hybrid too, at 38mpg we should have plenty left over.
besides, there is no point complaining about gas prices right now. when it gets to be like, 7 bucks a gallon - they we are all collectively quacked. that's probably about the point that everything gets more expensive. as in *everything*.
I agree, now is not the time to complain, it's when it doubles what it is now.
Gas was $3 for last years drive to bonnaroo, now it's $4. That is a 33% increase, which is a lot, but when you take the average 1,000 mile round trip drive only averaging 20mpg (I drive a truck) your talking about $50 extra bucks per TRUCK. And most cars will get better mileage, and then you probably have 2 or 3 people to split the gas bill. So I would say the average person going to bonnaroo will likely spend $15 to $25 bucks more per person.
I'm not saying I want to pay it, and I'm not made of money. But in the grand scheme of things, it's not that bad, your talking about a few beers in centeroo, or a party favor or two.
besides, there is no point complaining about gas prices right now. when it gets to be like, 7 bucks a gallon - they we are all collectively quacked. that's probably about the point that everything gets more expensive. as in *everything*.
I agree, now is not the time to complain, it's when it doubles what it is now.
But it's already doubled what it was a couple years ago. The whole trick is that they raise prices so slowly that it gives a time to calm down a bit before each raise. No one is going to take a stand for $0.10. But all those dime gradually accumulate and before you know it it has doubled again! But we say the same thig then. "It's only up 50 cents from a few months ago, don't complain about it". If you ask me, we should have started complaining about it a long time ago.
They'll jack it up to $4.25, everyone'll freak, then they'll drop it to like $3.75, and EVERYONE WILL BE GRATEFUL....it's like the Helsinki Syndrome, where you develop an attachment to your captor...just imagine how happy you'd be if gas dropped to "only" $3.00 a gallon tomorrow...but if someone told you gas would be $3.00 a gallon 2 yrs ago, you would've freaked....face it, they got us by the shorthairs...
our prices have been artifically low since...well...since they started selling gas. im not representing big oil here, nor do i sit on opec's board, but it's still cheaper here than in most of the world. in the uk, it's currently $10 a gallon. when i was in canada a few months ago, it was about $8. we're having a 50% off sale everyday. not to mention, the value of the dollar is dropping each day.
im hoping for super inflation ala germany after the war. mortgage is only 350K? no problem - i make that in a week!
