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For you to believe that kdogg and I are both mafia, you would also have to believe that we staged that whole conversation yesterday. While I appreciate your confidence in our strategic and theatrical abilities, I have to tell you that you are missing the mark.
Yeah. That's grasping at straws. I'm clearly innocent. My earlier post speaks for itself. You may well be innocent, but I haven't tried to off anybody.
If anything I have tried to save people.
Nobody is "clearly" anything in this game, and I don't trust anyone who says differently. I know that I am innocent, but I understand that no one can see that as clearly as I can. The only person I've pointed the finger at is you because I think you've been acting guilty. The point of this game is not to avoid accusing someone or to try and save anyone, it's to figure out who's mafia and get rid of them. By your own words, you've spent this game trying to avoid being responsible for anyone dying. Or, to put it more plainly, trying to stay off of the townsfolk's radar, rather than trying to figure out who's mafia.
Post by handgunhipster on Mar 20, 2009 11:07:09 GMT -5
^^You should know that would only get me killed. Why call them out when we can't kill them? NBF and Fishing are both innocent. We can't change the runoff to kill a mafia member now.
I'll save my thoughts until tomorrow, granted the mafia doesn't kill me tonight.
do the mafia know who the inspector is? or who the nurse or vigilante are? like, are they told this information at the beginning of the game? or do they only know who each other are?
do the mafia know who the inspector is? or who the nurse or vigilante are? like, are they told this information at the beginning of the game? or do they only know who each other are?
Sadie, I'm quite surprised you are asking this. You're a regular-enough player that you should know by now how this works. I can understand your having questions about the new roles...
But after all the games you've played, you should know by now the Mafia doesn't know anyone's identity at the beginning of the game.
This post makes me think you're asking for appearance's sake, not because you legitimately don't know this by now. I'm not saying this makes you Mafia; just that my suspicion of you has gone through the roof because of this post.
You seriously need to phone a friend. I think the final results will prove you wrong on two, if not all three, of these suspicions. I'm not going to get into defending either of their innocence at length right now - I'm not positive enough that either of them is innocent to do that - though I think the Inspector's Day One intervention means it's most likely Handgun is innocent.
If you truly think I'm Mafia, look at my past. I've analyzed and commented on this game plenty, as I think we all can agree. I've left a long paper trail you can follow.
We started out with thirteen players. I'll cross out the ones I called out for being suspicious at various points.
I even included my name on some of those lists, because not everyone knows I'm innocent the way I do.
As you will see, the only players I haven't called out as suspicious at some point were Bama & Jack. They were both whacked at Night by the Mafia, which should be proof positive of their innocence. You should also note that the people I did not call out were proven innocent when they got whacked in Night rounds. You're really trying to tell me I'm Mafia, when it would put me in cahoots with two dead innocents?
If I were Mafia, and the two people I didn't point the finger at were proven innocent... that would mean I called out both of my fellow Mafia members during the game. I'm just not completely positive who they are. If I'm in cahoots with those I haven't called out, then I somehow managed to whack both of my associates during the first two Nights. That's a horrible, horrible strategy, and I'm insulted you think I'd be dumb enough to do that.
The fact remains: the two people I have left alone were proven innocent & I have definitely accused the entire Mafia at some point or another.
I've been accused of being in cahoots with Handgun & NBF.
I can see how you think I'm in cahoots with Handgun. What I saw in Day One was the Inspector intervening on her behalf - I think that makes her likely to be innocent. Since I think Bama (and if not her, Jack) was the Inspector, I think that proves her innocent. Note that I'm not basing her innocence upon anything she herself said/did/voted, but the actions of someone I believe to be the Inspector. Despite that, as the game's progressed, I have come to give her some scrutiny nonetheless. The only scenario I've run which produced a suspect list with her on it was the "innocent Tara" angle proposed by Fishingmaniac - and I find that scenario unlikely. The only reason she wound up on even that suspect list was because of her behavior in the vote pile - saving Tara. Since I was running a scenario which presumed Tara innocent, that doesn't really seem to compute either.
If you're telling me Handgun is Mafia, you're also telling me you don't think Tara was guilty or that Bama/Jack was the Inspector. I'll take note of this.
I haven't been going after Handgun much this game because I think the events of Day One proved her innocent.
NBF is another story. We had ourselves a lengthy exchange yesterday. I thought she & loco-loach were guilty going into this round. The more we bantered back and forth about each other's role in all this, the more I came to see - as I put it at the time - two misguided dogs barking up wrong trees.
Look at the way I've played... do you really think I'd be giving her the benefit of the doubt if I weren't leaning towards her innocence? If we were really were two Mafia secretly in cahoots with one another, I think it would be bad strategy for the Mafia to publicly make two of their own the focus of an intense debate. She claimed her innocence back in Day Two, and at the time I told her I wasn't yet ready to buy that. After the conversation we had yesterday, I'm not completely convinced of her innocence - but I think it's a lot more likely after Day Three than I did in the rest of the game leading up to our debate.
I think this is entirely possible. I know saying this is only going to give Rooconteur more ammunition, but I'm going to say it regardless because I think it's the truth: I think NBF is innocent.
Fishing is such a ??? that I can't rule out any possible combination of Mafia/innocents in this vote. I think it's highly unlikely we've got a Mafia vs. Mafia situation here, though.
Even if crazy carp is innocent, I think he's operating counter to the Townsperson's aims. That's why I think, given the choice between two players who could possibly both be innocent, he deserves my vote more than NBF.
^That's quite the voting pattern there between you and NBF to throw us off. Hey let's both vote for Fishing, switch and vote for eachother so nobody thinks we're mafia. Then switch back to fishing before the voting closes.
As you will see, the only players I haven't called out as suspicious at some point were Bama & Jack. They were both whacked at Night by the Mafia, which should be proof positive of their innocence. You should also note that the people I did not call out were proven innocent when they got whacked in Night rounds. You're really trying to tell me I'm Mafia, when it would put me in cahoots with two dead innocents?
Ya it's completely impossible that the mafia would whack somebody they didn't vote for in the first round to cover their tracks.
I have so much to say, but I'm worried that it will get me killed tonight. Then again, I can't say it when I'm dead.
It doesn't seem as though talking too much has been frowned upon in this thread.
It's not the amount of talking as much as what I would say that would get me whacked, but screw it. I'm gonna spill.
I think that Kdogg and HGH are the two remaining mafia. They have aligned themselves well throughout the game. HGH, at the very beginning of the game voted along with Kdogg stating that it was because he was a very god player. She has no idea if he is mafia or not. So why would she vote along with him.
Kdogg effluviates too much. His theories are vapid and have led people to vote off likely innocent players. You think I've been trying to confuse people? Obviously I have, but only about my own identity. A good offense is a god defense. People who come out of the gate pointing fingers are likely guilty.
HGH and Kdogg have also posted the most. Often a trait of people who have something to hide.
do the mafia know who the inspector is? or who the nurse or vigilante are? like, are they told this information at the beginning of the game? or do they only know who each other are?
Sadie, I'm quite surprised you are asking this. You're a regular-enough player that you should know by now how this works. I can understand your having questions about the new roles...
But after all the games you've played, you should know by now the Mafia doesn't know anyone's identity at the beginning of the game.
This post makes me think you're asking for appearance's sake, not because you legitimately don't know this by now. I'm not saying this makes you Mafia; just that my suspicion of you has gone through the roof because of this post.
I sincerelly couldn't remember. I ask because hgh is acting like inspector but if the mafia knows who the inspector is and they know the inspector is dead she could be mafia pretending
HGH and Kdogg also posted yesterday at 3 something within 3 minutes of each other, then they didn't write the rest of the night. It is unlike them not too write, I think they were scouting their target.
^That's quite the voting pattern there between you and NBF to throw us off. Hey let's both vote for Fishing, switch and vote for eachother so nobody thinks we're mafia. Then switch back to fishing before the voting closes.
Yeah, we reciprocated our voting... Like I said, I think we were two dogs barking up wrong trees. Once we both came to realize that, we eliminated one another from our suspicion.
I have an issue with your vote. You joined NBF in voting for me. Yeah, that's right - NBF voted for me, despite your calling us both Mafia. You joined her in voting for me. That looks like the situation I suspected in the first round - Mafia members piling votes with confused Townspeople who are voting for one another.
I changed my vote away from NBF because I thought she was innocent. I wasn't certain about anyone else besides Fishing to vote for anyone other than my previous vote. Nor did I know how NBF was going to vote when I changed my vote. She changed hers to Fishing of her own choosing.
As you will see, the only players I haven't called out as suspicious at some point were Bama & Jack. They were both whacked at Night by the Mafia, which should be proof positive of their innocence. You should also note that the people I did not call out were proven innocent when they got whacked in Night rounds. You're really trying to tell me I'm Mafia, when it would put me in cahoots with two dead innocents?
Ya it's completely impossible that the mafia would whack somebody they didn't vote for in the first round to cover their tracks.
There's a difference between the Mafia whacking someone they didn't vote for, and the Mafia whacking one of their own. They are not one and the same. I think you're overlooking that.
