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I think the majority of the people that watched the show wanted Walter to get what he deserved and Jesse to get another chance at life. And that's what we got. Solid final episode.
the gun in the trunk thing, but pretty much all of us said that if Walt was going to pull it off, it was his advanced intellect that would do it. I thought Jesse would have played a more active role somehow, but I think it played right into Walt's track record of setting traps for his enemies.
I thought it was a fitting ending, it tied things together nicely (look at you, David Chase), and it gave the viewer a sense that all the characters were going to (or already had) found peace.
I have to say I don't really watch (too cancery for me in the first season) but the cable in our area went down at about 8:45 EST and I could feel the pain.
I guess the only loose end that remained was where the rest of Walt's money ended up but I loved that Walt shot Todd's uncle without a blink when he brought it up. F*ck you Jack!
the gun in the trunk thing, but pretty much all of us said that if Walt was going to pull it off, it was his advanced intellect that would do it. I thought Jesse would have played a more active role somehow, but I think it played right into Walt's track record of setting traps for his enemies.
I thought it was a fitting ending, it tied things together nicely (look at you, David Chase), and it gave the viewer a sense that all the characters were going to (or already had) found peace.
Not to try and derail this thread, but Tony Soprano gets whacked at the end of the Sopranos. I believe Chase even says this in an interview post finale.
Now, to get back on track, the gun in the trunk thing was really the best way to do it. Like you pointed out last week, the thought that Walt was just going to go in there and shoot it out with these guys would not really be a move true to Walt's character. If we want to nitpick, the only problem I see is that all of jacks crew was hanging out in one location. With the type of military set-up they seem to have, you would think they would have guards walking around the compound, no? But like I said, nitpicking.
the gun in the trunk thing, but pretty much all of us said that if Walt was going to pull it off, it was his advanced intellect that would do it. I thought Jesse would have played a more active role somehow, but I think it played right into Walt's track record of setting traps for his enemies.
I thought it was a fitting ending, it tied things together nicely (look at you, David Chase), and it gave the viewer a sense that all the characters were going to (or already had) found peace.
Not to try and derail this thread, but Tony Soprano gets whacked at the end of the Sopranos. I believe Chase even says this in an interview post finale.
Now, to get back on track, the gun in the trunk thing was really the best way to do it. Like you pointed out last week, the thought that Walt was just going to go in there and shoot it out with these guys would not really be a move true to Walt's character. If we want to nitpick, the only problem I see is that all of jacks crew was hanging out in one location. With the type of military set-up they seem to have, you would think they would have guards walking around the compound, no? But like I said, nitpicking.
David Chase never confirmed that. It's an open-ended ending that can be taken a lot of ways, hence my comment. Tony could be dead, Chase could have used that ending to show how Tony is looking over his shoulder for the rest of eternity, and son on.
Regarding your "guards in the same room point," it's fair to feel that way. The only explanation I came up with was "it's Heisenberg, one of the most dangerous guys in the country, they (pick one: want to get one last look at the dude, or they want to have all hands on deck in case he pulls some sh*t). I guess if this is one of the bigger issues we take away from the finale, it was pretty damn good.
Not to try and derail this thread, but Tony Soprano gets whacked at the end of the Sopranos. I believe Chase even says this in an interview post finale.
Now, to get back on track, the gun in the trunk thing was really the best way to do it. Like you pointed out last week, the thought that Walt was just going to go in there and shoot it out with these guys would not really be a move true to Walt's character. If we want to nitpick, the only problem I see is that all of jacks crew was hanging out in one location. With the type of military set-up they seem to have, you would think they would have guards walking around the compound, no? But like I said, nitpicking.
David Chase never confirmed that. It's an open-ended ending that can be taken a lot of ways, hence my comment. Tony could be dead, Chase could have used that ending to show how Tony is looking over his shoulder for the rest of eternity, and son on.
Regarding your "guards in the same room point," it's fair to feel that way. The only explanation I came up with was "it's Heisenberg, one of the most dangerous guys in the country, they (pick one: want to get one last look at the dude, or they want to have all hands on deck in case he pulls some sh*t). I guess if this is one of the bigger issues we take away from the finale, it was pretty damn good.
It is not only the guards in the same room that felt a little off. They took his keys and wallet but didn't check his trunk? Then Jack decided to "prove" to someone he was about to kill that he had not partnered with Jesse? I liked the end and all but it did feel a little forced.
David Chase never confirmed that. It's an open-ended ending that can be taken a lot of ways, hence my comment. Tony could be dead, Chase could have used that ending to show how Tony is looking over his shoulder for the rest of eternity, and son on.
Regarding your "guards in the same room point," it's fair to feel that way. The only explanation I came up with was "it's Heisenberg, one of the most dangerous guys in the country, they (pick one: want to get one last look at the dude, or they want to have all hands on deck in case he pulls some sh*t). I guess if this is one of the bigger issues we take away from the finale, it was pretty damn good.
It is not only the guards in the same room that felt a little off. They took his keys and wallet but didn't check his trunk? Then Jack decided to "prove" to someone he was about to kill that he had not partnered with Jesse? I liked the end and all but it did feel a little forced.
Why would they check his trunk? Their plan is to kill him right away so I see no reason to check it. Just need to make sure he's not armed at the moment. I doubt they thought he had a robot machine gun in there lol.
I also thought it wasn't just about proving that he was not partnered with Jesse (though that is part of it) but also just to rub it in Walt's face that they don't need him and he's not as brilliant as he thinks or something. It definitely is a valid complaint though and they may have been able to find a different way to get Jesse in that room but I'm still satisfied.
For me, the obvious nitpick is "Oh, good thing that guy guarding the car was standing in line against the wall and not behind the car or anything" as well as the fact that they just left the car there without making Walt park it where they originally wanted. But I tend to side with the "Walt is the luckiest guy there is" stuff.
I didn't mind that everyone was in that one room considering we haven't seen this crew to be much bigger then this. Having armed guards walking around when they've got nothing to really fear (no heat from the DEA, no enemies coming after them) would have seemed out of place for what we know about the crew.
David Chase never confirmed that. It's an open-ended ending that can be taken a lot of ways, hence my comment. Tony could be dead, Chase could have used that ending to show how Tony is looking over his shoulder for the rest of eternity, and son on.
Regarding your "guards in the same room point," it's fair to feel that way. The only explanation I came up with was "it's Heisenberg, one of the most dangerous guys in the country, they (pick one: want to get one last look at the dude, or they want to have all hands on deck in case he pulls some sh*t). I guess if this is one of the bigger issues we take away from the finale, it was pretty damn good.
It is not only the guards in the same room that felt a little off. They took his keys and wallet but didn't check his trunk? Then Jack decided to "prove" to someone he was about to kill that he had not partnered with Jesse? I liked the end and all but it did feel a little forced.
I think the point of Jack proving to Walt that he hadn't "partnered" with Jesse had more to do with Jack wanting to brag about Jesse's condition and what they put him through.
Wow. So what is there to say really? It was a pretty perfect ending. My only disappointment is it went pretty much exactly as predicted (gun for nazis, ricin for Lydia, I even remember reading some guy theorizing that Walt was going to build a 'robot' for the gun), but that's neither here nor there.
Walt finally won. He got the money to his family. Came clean to Skylar and himself about why he did it. 'Beat cancer'. And died surrounded by what he loved.
He finally saw Jesse as a complete equal. Marie gets her closure.
And it all came full circle with lots of little throwbacks such as Krazy-8's death, him viewing his reflection, the doctor telling him he had 2 years to live, etc.
I couldn't be happier with how it turned out and now I have a giant hole in my life.
