The 'I LOVE WEEZER' Thread

i agree with whoever brought up the bonus songs from the red album, pig is an amazing song and i have no idea how it did not get on the regular version of the album

Not bashing at all, I love Weezer, but I'll admit it makes me mad that the best songs on the red album were the bonus tracks. I remember listening to it first time, and thinking how bottom heavy it was and noticed that the songs were all bonus tracks. Also, there is probably about zero chance of seeing those songs live. The new album is not great, but I dont find it as bad as everyone is making it out to be. The red album had superior singles in my opinion. That said I will be at the weezer show having a blast (barring any crazy conflict).

Wrong. It wasn't "a bunch of hit songs" he was analyzing; it was the entire catalogs by bands such as Nirvana, Oasis & Green Day.
The way you phrase it sounds makes Rivers sound like more of a profiteer figuring out which sounds sold best.
I don't think that's necessarily the case.

What you're talking about happened around spring of 2000. The Goat Punishment shows, their tour warm-up gigs after a couple years of inactivity, featured the band playing shows entirely of these bands' songs.

The songs that came out of that period were actually pretty damn good. I like Summer Songs 2K* - the third album that wasn't, scrapped by Rivers in favor of what would be 2001's Green Album - better than your average weezer. I'd rank that album above everything except Blue & Pinkerton.**

I take issue with you claiming that Rivers' songwriting was worse when he was doing the catalog analysis.
Your example of what you believe to be a bad weezer song - "Beverly Hills" - comes from an album that came out in 2005.
That song came from a completely different place than the one you're criticizing Rivers for being in.
While I might agree with some of your general sentiment, your information is off.
I blame Rick Rubin

And to rant to my fellow weezerphiles for a bit, a follow-up on the asterisks...

* The batch of new songs that weezer toured with which were (largely) scrapped after the tour in favor of the Green Album.
A couple years later, Rivers released soundboard recordings of 15 tracks to a fansite - his intended 10-song album & 5 others.

Modern Dukes
Oh Girl
On the Edge
A Preacher's Son
Slob
Dope Nose
Mad Kow
Superstar
Your Sister
Too Late to Try
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Been In the Storm (goofing off in the studio, not tour soundboard)
Ev'ry Night
Hash Pipe
My Brain is Working Overtime
Peace and Quiet

We've all heard at least some of these, right?
I can't believe Slob, Dope Nose & Hash Pipe were the ones from the era to see commercial release

** We all know Songs From the Black Hole is the real best weezer album, even if we haven't heard it all... right?

I attended the Chicago date of the Foozer tour back in 2006. On that tour, they were recruiting audience members to come up to play "Undone." The guy they brought onstage (red shirt, center) to play started singing "Blast Off!" over the intro to the song.
This video comes from that particular show.

Brian just laughs... Rivers looks a little anxious to get the guy out of the way

While looking for a couple other tracks to mention, I stumbled upon a series of YouTube videos from this past December, attempting to approximate the album.
Of course, it's anyone's guess... as far as I know, there's only three copies of something resembling a completed SFTBH in existence - two with Rivers, one with the band's assistant - so it's fair to say that anything anyone else says is conjecture.
Anyway, here's one fan's approximation of Songs From the Black Hole:








I'm kind of surprised to see "Oh Lisa" included. I know that song goes back to at least 2001 - it was included with the Green Album leak I downloaded. I'm also confused as to how Waiting On You, with its "you're 19 days late" reference, chronologically comes after "She's Had A Girl..."
(Also, I'm pretty sure "Living Without You" comes not from SFTBH but the Maladroit era - they were playing that one on that tour.)

I also personally think it's fair game to assume some songs from the Return of the Rentals album might have been intended for SFTBH as well. Particularly "This Love I'm Searching For" and "Please Let That Be You." They seem to fit in with the vibe/content of SFTBH, not to mention the involvement of Rachel Haden.
I know that at one point, Rivers made Matt choose between weezer and the Rentals and Matt chose the Rentals.
I suspect Matt's departure had something to do with the Rentals appropriating those songs.

This album would've rocked my smurfing socks off had it came out in 1995... still does.

weezer is one of those bands whose best songs "no one knows"

ME TOO! they were way better than blink i was lovin it. saw them in Hartford, CT.

Who says we have to wait for the off-chance we'll find/recognize each other up front at the show?
We're on the internet, for crying out loud...

For starters, I tracked down the .zip to accompany the SFTBH videos I shared.
www.tonymech.com/blogfiles/weezer-sftbh/SFTBH.zip

One of the tracks on there ("Oh Jonas") actually comes from a guy on my weezer forum who was kind of a tool. Rivers put up lyrics & tabs to a few SFTBH songs on his Myspace a few years ago, apparently because he didn't think he could just contractually release it, and let the fans take a stab.

Because it will just be that much more fun!!! Where's your sense of Bonnaroo adventure...hehe! ;D Besides, I'm not an easy person to NOT find...I stick out! You'll know who I am if you're up there! I'll prolly be the loudest one there..hehe! Thank you for that link!

I dig - I get that every year! Hehehe! You'll find me.

anyone know why the drummer doesnt play drums anymore?

and btw, these videos are making me get really fucking excited for some weezer. they are moving up further on my must see list for the weekend

I don't think a crowd favorite turned pop sellout group opposing a crowd favorite turned pop sellout group is a good strategy.

This is the only thread I've come by that has anything to say about Weezer at all. There just doesn't seem to be a good deal of interest in them here. I'm sure their set will be packed at the festival though. They may not have any credibility anymore (3 bad albums in a row), and they don't seem to be a good match for Bonnaroo. But their show will rock, and people will sing and dance along. No doubt about it. I saw them a few years back... they're fun live! And I can only dream of hearing Pinkerton in it's entirety. That would be an amazing show.

that cover of brain stew is SWEET!

I missed seeing weezer about 6 times now and am SOOOOOOOO freaking STOKED that I am finally going to see them. I am really hoping to see the flaming w on stage but not really thinking it will happen :/