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We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Mike D
Bonnafunky Dirtyroo King of the Smileys :-)
But but but.. (butting my nose in..) didn't Jham die about 2:45 ? please ignore if i missed the resurrection rule. Reading to learn. Sorry to interupt the regularly scheduled program. Will not do it again.
Yup, my bad. Ill get a new tally up, no worries. I was just trying to give an example of my vote tally thing
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Apr 27, 2011 18:45:31 GMT -5
So Bek raised suspicion by being too quiet/absent, however when she did speak up and voiced her concerns about certain players, she was immediately murked? Interesting.
Also, I apologize for being so clueless about the ins and outs of the game. I'm learning.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
But but but.. (butting my nose in..) didn't Jham die about 2:45 ? please ignore if i missed the resurrection rule. Reading to learn. Sorry to interupt the regularly scheduled program. Will not do it again.
Yup, my bad. Ill get a new tally up, no worries. I was just trying to give an example of my vote tally thing
Do they let a person know via PM ahead of time or does one find out via the public announcement that they have been killed off by the Mafia?
It is done in this thread. I receive a name of who dies via PM and make up a story for it.
I'll go quietly back under my rock now. Wait.. I vote for poisened mushrooms at the brunch for 'Friday'.
FawnMart scuttles back to her lurkers cave to enjoy a thirst quenching beverage before the night must come to an end. As she takes a cool indulging sip, there is a slight but crisp rippling sound that echoes like new ice just stepped upon. She looks around concerned but there is nothing amiss, just some rock dust on her shoulder. She wipes the dust off, leans her head back to sip once again, and sees the bright star light pouring through the cave ceiling as the boulders crash to the floor.. The towns people discover the tragedy the next day. They admire that the Irish lass (Ok lass is a stretch) did not spill a drop even when excuted mafia style.
Thanks for explaining Mike. Look forward to silently watching/learning from ya'll.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Sorry, guys. I've been in the middle of some crazy weather today. I need to reread today's posts before I commit on anything. I got myself in so much trouble last game and was one of the reasons the inspector ended up in a run-off, so I'm trying to be a more cautious player this game.
For now, I'm sticking with my voting partner. Who I'm glad to see still around and making smooches at a dead woman.
SFA >>>LLL
Edit: Not that Jham was guilty. I'm pretty sure he wasn't.
Last Edit: Apr 28, 2011 0:20:49 GMT -5 by Deleted - Back to Top
nodepression
Bleary-Eyed Bonnawook Inforoo's Waffle Czar & Baron Von Hipster
Bacon changing his vote without any real suspicion really bothers me, I don't know about anyone else. Bacon originally did the exact same thing that I did in my first game (voted for someone who already had a vote coming their way. I did this as a rookie mistake, and got killed off immediately. I doubt bacon did this as a rookie mistake, its possible, but not likely, and if it was a rookie mistake, I would imagine he would have changed it.
So anywho, we had 2 people stack votes, Bacon and NoD, and neither are in the runoff. NoD never wavering on his vote against me, (a vote with no merit, whatsoever), and bacon changing his vote last minute, to save LLL, both of these actions seem awfully fishy to me.
I can only hope that my fellow townspeople take this for what it is worth.
I don't think either one of these two are guilty. That is usually how it works the first round, two townspeople get set up so at least one if not two of the following people are mafia:
NBF NoD Bacon SFA
Both players who died both mentioned both Bacon & nodepression.
I think we would be failing as Townspeople to have a vote where both of these two are not the leading candidates.
Both players who died both mentioned both Bacon & nodepression.
I think we would be failing as Townspeople to have a vote where both of these two are not the leading candidates.
Who's with me?
While I certainly think this is a relevant point and that we should take it into consideration, don't we also need to consider the fact that the mafia also wants to mislead us with the first kill. The way I see it, there are two reasons to kill a person night 1: mafia thinks the person might be inspector and wants to get rid of her right away, or the person said some things that the mafia can use to mislead people by killing her. So, while I agree that we should look at both Bacon and nodepression, I also think we should not discount other potential mafia just based on what Bek said.
Just a friendly reminder that this day is scheduled to end Friday at 5:14 am. Seeing how I will be sleeping, the round will end at roughly 9-10 am Central time tomorrow morning. I will extend time for discussion regarding votes and things of that nature. If you haven't chimed in this round and it is quiet in here I will be ending the day regardless. I have smileys to murder here people!!!!
Both players who died both mentioned both Bacon & nodepression.
I think we would be failing as Townspeople to have a vote where both of these two are not the leading candidates.
Who's with me?
While I certainly think this is a relevant point and that we should take it into consideration, don't we also need to consider the fact that the mafia also wants to mislead us with the first kill. The way I see it, there are two reasons to kill a person night 1: mafia thinks the person might be inspector and wants to get rid of her right away, or the person said some things that the mafia can use to mislead people by killing her. So, while I agree that we should look at both Bacon and nodepression, I also think we should not discount other potential mafia just based on what Bek said.
Can I amend/expand your reasoning on the not-Inspector side of that "or"? It's not just things the person says; it's votes they cast. I don't know about the rest of you, but I've been in Mafias (Mafii?) where we had no clue who Inspector was and whacked a Townsperson whose votes couldn't be tied us. Misleading because of statements and because of votes aren't quite the same. Seems to me one of them is a sin of commission and the other is a sin of omission. Either makes for a valid motive, so we shouldn't exclude one from consideration.
Now, the players I have seen Bek call out, either via her posts* or her votes^: NBF* NoD* Bacon* SFA* LLL^ kdogg^
Altogether, she's called out at least half of her fellow players. I've reread the game since they both wound up dead, giving greater scrutiny to what they've been saying. Especially Bek, who we can be even more certain is innocent than JHam, who is probably also innocent.
So I've looked over JHam's posts too. Players JHam mentioned* or voted^ for: nodepression* SFA* Bacon* NBF^ LLL^
The sum of both dead player's suspicions: LLL: 2 votes (both during runoff) NBF: 1 vote, 1 mention (two if you count JHam claiming "random voting") Bacon: 2 mentions NoD: 2 mentions (three, counting Bek's astonishment he is playing) SFA: 2 mentions kdogg: 1 vote
Two players calling out a sum total of six players. That's eight players involved in this. To say the Mafia is not involved with this is to imply that our Mafia is the three unmentioned players: Higgi, Kel & noage. I'm not saying that's impossible, but at this point I think it's highly unlikely. As such, I'm saying it is more likely Bek was whacked not because she led people off-track, but because she was on the way toward leading people down the right track.
A few other things I found worth noting: JHammett claimed he thought whoever died would be whacked, for what that's worth. It was Bek instead.
Bek agreed with me about going after those who sent JHam/LLL into the runoff. The players who sent those two (NBF, NoD, Bacon, SFA) also happen to be the names Bek called out before she got whacked. I think there might be something to that.
I think I am pursuing that end by advocating for a NoD-Bacon runoff. I find NoD/NBF about equally suspicious, and I find Bacon more suspicious than SFA. I would also be fine, to a lesser extent, with sending NBF & SFA into a runoff instead. However, I can't ignore the overlap in what both dead players said. I think something happening twice makes it less likely to be coincidence than something happening once.
The way I see things, NoD & NBF are more likely to have the same role than Bacon & SFA. I can't separate NBF's innocence/guilt from NoD's at this point; at the very least I admit the possibility they both look innocent because of NoD's rookie faux pas. It's different when I look at SFA & Bacon. The prior voting arrangement between LLL & SFA at least explains why SFA has been voting as he did. Bacon, on the other hand, his behavior has raised more flags with me than just about any player in this game - reasons I outlined in my vote for him. I have greater uncertainty about him as the game progresses, not less. I'm not saying 100% of my suspicions are correct... but I'm saying that I'm noticing more reasons to suspect Bacon than I am noticing to suspect any other player in this game. He could be innocent for all I know, but I'll be damned if he doesn't look suspicious in the process.
With all that said, my vote is currently for Bacon but I've got open ears to other reasoning.
Could you please do me one favor? Reciprocate the votes you already have rather than vote for one another.
Bacon vs. NoD is my ideal runoff, since both dead players called them out. However, I feel NBF & NoD are either innocent or guilty together. I am just as comfortable with Bacon vs NBF as I am with Bacon vs NoD.
If you think there's any merit to what myself, the late JHammett or recently-whacked Bek has been saying this game, I hope my request falls on receptive ears.
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