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Well we've had two runoffs and each time the person who wasn't killed in the runoff was bumped off by the Mafia. I'm a noob but I have to think that at least one Mafia has bitten the dust and I'm hoping it's two. My gut tells me that EAP and Kdogg were NOT Mafia. Gotta study the votes and see who looks the most connected.
Well if we follow the path we've been on our choices have slimmed down. The only bad thing is that if we were wrong about BOTH Jack and Sarah then we could possible lose after this round.
I think out best option is to continue on with another player linked with EAP. If next round comes and we haven't won then at least we know we are surly on the right track but might need to widen our search. I think I know who Kdogg had in mind and that's possible what got him killed. Then again the mafia might have killed him to try and make us think he was on to something when he wasn't.
SFA >>> Noage
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Post by LoveLuckLaughter on May 30, 2011 2:18:07 GMT -5
I'm starting to go back and look at patterns in voting, and associations. I'm just picking things out for now, so until it starts coming in line, forgive all of the rambling thoughts.
Looking at the changed votes I see that Kdogg and Noage were each saved twice. And quacker saved both of them. I'm not sure if the changing of votes here is a pattern starting of Mafia saving Mafia, or Mafia trying to cast suspicion on townies, or just plain coincidence.
^^^^^ One set of associations that I pointed out earlier. All three of these players were alive until last round, and the Kdogg killing may be a front.
IF EAP WAS INSPECTOR
Players EAP voted for, or mentioned voting for NoAge Jack Sarah Quacker (mentioned voting for him)
Players who voted for EAP to send her into the run-off Jack NoAge (after changing his vote from Sarah)
Voted for EAP in the runoff Jack No Age Sarah LLL
Jack, NoAge and Sarah are the three players here with the most in common.
Players that voted for Kdogg this round (statistically it is likely that one is Mafia, as long as 2 or more mafia still exist) Jack NBF
That being said, Jack comes up anyway you cut it, so I'm going wit the players who has the most associations with him right now.
Three players have the highest number of associations with each other if we look at EAP as inspector. If we eliminate the third player this round, and Mafia is not completely gone, then I think we are looking at the wrong group of people, and perhaps EAP was not the inspector, or Mafia have done a terrific job of lining themselves up very well on the other side of things.
I am 100% convinced right now that one of these players is Mafia because, after reading through the whole game, and because of the lack of anyone else coming forward as Inspector, I think that EAP was Inspector. So NoAge, Jack, Sarah or Quacker are/were Mafia because they were mentioned by EAP. Three of them may be Mafia because we can associate them to each other, or some combination that includes them is. So I think that these four players are the epicenter.
I am about 75% sure that two of them are Mafia.
I am only about 10% sure that three are Mafia because I think that one person who is Mafia has managed to remain completely unassociated from them to play the other side.
Sorry that was so rambling, but what it comes down to is, that I think NoAge or Quacker may be the ones to vote for here.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I was afraid this might happen. I'm all for having Noage in a runoff but lets not go over the top and vote him strait off. I'm not 100% sure on Jack's guilt, so I'm starting to feel that there is a good chance that we have 2 mafia left. If EAP wasn't referring to Sarah in her "definitely" post then we really got to make sure this round counts (To be clear, I think she was but we don't know for sure.)
-The mafia might have killed Kdogg because of his Noage and NBF stance. Which he later back down on. -They might have killed him because he started to become vocal about Jham towards the end. - They might have killed him to throw us off.
Surly one mafia voted opposite of Sarah in the first round. I think we should discuss what has transpired and try to make the most productive runoff possible. I would personal like to see a runoff between Noage, and Jham but I'm all ears on other suggested courses of action.
I'm going to go ahead and switch to Jham because I want Noage to have a chance at defending himself. If he is innocent I definitely don't won't him to feel he is fighting a losing battle while doing so....
What does everyone make of Kdogg's murder? Was he on to something or was it a smoke screen? Jham has been brought up by several other players. I'm not sure why Kdogg bringing him up would be reason for a whacking. Could it possible be that he brought him up in connection with Bek?
Ahh, I figured I would be toast in this round. No point in claiming to be a towns person. I made an error in judgement keeping my vote for EAP in the first round. If you have any questions for me, I will answer them honestly. If you still feel I should be voted off, then so be it.
What does everyone make of Kdogg's murder? Was he on to something or was it a smoke screen? Jham has been brought up by several other players. I'm not sure why Kdogg bringing him up would be reason for a whacking. Could it possible be that he brought him up in connection with Bek?
In fairness, I brought up the jhamm/Bek connection (or lack of one, really), and kdogg just said he'd been thinking about it too. However, I was leaning towards jhammett being guilty at the time, and I'm wondering if that's why I'm still alive and kdogg is dead (kdogg didn't really say which way he was leaning, but mentioned that he'd been thinking about it, and that he was still thinking about the bek/quacker possibilities, and how the three of them fit together).
My thought now is that if Sarah was mafia, either bek or quacker is likely guilty because Sarah was the one who suggested that she and noage change votes to add more people to the runoff. I thought it was odd at the time that she said it seemed like having more people in the runoff would be more helpful. While I think it's generally agreed that this is true, I wouldn't have expected a first time player to come up with that on her own (that's why I asked about Mike D helping her). If Sarah was mafia, and both of the runoff players were innocent, she wouldn't have had a problem with letting the two of them go into the runoff alone. If Sarah was innocent, it seems like she might have been more uncomfortable with the idea of putting additional players into the runoff because she wouldn't have known who to pick.
I'm not really crazy about what I'm about to do because I know that Bek has had other things going on outside of the game that have probably contributed to her not saying as much in the game, but I am still a little suspicious of her lack of activity. Particularly with the very late vote in Day 1 and the lack of a vote in Day 2. I sent Bek a fb message at 4:00 Friday afternoon. She responded to it at 9:50 Saturday morning, but she still didn't say anything in this thread. Bacon closed the voting at 11:15 am Saturday (all of these are Pacific time, by the way), and posted the mafia kill at 10:00 am yesterday. Bek then posted at 11:30 am yesterday. Like I said, I recognize that she's had other things going on, so maybe her lack of voting doesn't really mean anything in the game, but when I put it together with my theory that if Sarah was mafia, bek or quacker is too, that is what is guiding my vote. So,
Post by ☮ superbek ☮ on May 30, 2011 11:22:39 GMT -5
^^Just an FYI, the reason I didn't post after my response to you on fb saturday was bc inforoo sucks on my phone. :-)
tbh, I feel like when the vote ended saturday it was like saying my opinion doesn't matter. I noticed something that I wanted to post but now I feel as if it won't matter... :-(
What does everyone make of Kdogg's murder? Was he on to something or was it a smoke screen? Jham has been brought up by several other players. I'm not sure why Kdogg bringing him up would be reason for a whacking. Could it possible be that he brought him up in connection with Bek?
If Sarah was really Mafia then Kdogg's murder could not be a smoke screen. That would only leave one Mafia and I would think it's tough for a lone gunman to take out all the Townies before he/she gets voted out.
I'm sticking with my vote for noage right now but it's kind of a toss-up between him and jhammet as to my hunch. I don't think Bek is Mafia as jhammet was trying to get her and me in a runoff early in the game for no apparent reason. I may end up switching to jhammet before this vote is closed if I see a good enough reason.
^^Just an FYI, the reason I didn't post after my response to you on fb saturday was bc inforoo sucks on my phone. :-)
tbh, I feel like when the vote ended saturday it was like saying my opinion doesn't matter. I noticed something that I wanted to post but now I feel as if it won't matter... :-(
The reason I closed the voting is you have Waka I have Mountain Jam
^^Just an FYI, the reason I didn't post after my response to you on fb saturday was bc inforoo sucks on my phone. :-)
tbh, I feel like when the vote ended saturday it was like saying my opinion doesn't matter. I noticed something that I wanted to post but now I feel as if it won't matter... :-(
Regardless of the closing voting, I for one would be interested in whatever it is you have to say. Not saying it will necessarily change my mind, but I'd still want to hear it.
What does everyone make of Kdogg's murder? Was he on to something or was it a smoke screen? Jham has been brought up by several other players. I'm not sure why Kdogg bringing him up would be reason for a whacking. Could it possible be that he brought him up in connection with Bek?
If Sarah was really Mafia then Kdogg's murder could not be a smoke screen. That would only leave one Mafia and I would think it's tough for a lone gunman to take out all the Townies before he/she gets voted out.
I'm sticking with my vote for noage right now but it's kind of a toss-up between him and jhammet as to my hunch. I don't think Bek is Mafia as jhammet was trying to get her and me in a runoff early in the game for no apparent reason. I may end up switching to jhammet before this vote is closed if I see a good enough reason.
I probably should have worded that better. I just meant the Mafia killed him with the motive of causing confusion and getting the townspeople off the trail.
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What does everyone make of Kdogg's murder? Was he on to something or was it a smoke screen? Jham has been brought up by several other players. I'm not sure why Kdogg bringing him up would be reason for a whacking. Could it possible be that he brought him up in connection with Bek?
In fairness, I brought up the jhamm/Bek connection (or lack of one, really), and kdogg just said he'd been thinking about it too. However, I was leaning towards jhammett being guilty at the time, and I'm wondering if that's why I'm still alive and kdogg is dead (kdogg didn't really say which way he was leaning, but mentioned that he'd been thinking about it, and that he was still thinking about the bek/quacker possibilities, and how the three of them fit together).
Yes, I knew you brought it up. You also brought up Jhamm earlier in the first round. I guess my thought process was just if it was something related to him but you just answered that part.
My thought now is that if Sarah was mafia, either bek or quacker is likely guilty because Sarah was the one who suggested that she and noage change votes to add more people to the runoff. I thought it was odd at the time that she said it seemed like having more people in the runoff would be more helpful. While I think it's generally agreed that this is true, I wouldn't have expected a first time player to come up with that on her own (that's why I asked about Mike D helping her). If Sarah was mafia, and both of the runoff players were innocent, she wouldn't have had a problem with letting the two of them go into the runoff alone. If Sarah was innocent, it seems like she might have been more uncomfortable with the idea of putting additional players into the runoff because she wouldn't have known who to pick.
I read thought the game last night and one the things I wanted to bring up was Sarah expanding the runoff. I really need to take better notes.I guess I was just so hesitant to go with Kdogg's 50/50 mafia theory after I became a target of it a few games back that Bek and Quacker were unwisely put in the back of my mind. This is probable the right move to make. I really do think we might shot ourselves in the foot if we keep voting off every player involved with voting for EAP. IF Sarah was mafia then this is the best argument I've seen for moving forward.
I feel like when the vote ended saturday it was like saying my opinion doesn't matter. I noticed something that I wanted to post but now I feel as if it won't matter... :-(
I would like to hear it as well.
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If Sarah was really Mafia then Kdogg's murder could not be a smoke screen. That would only leave one Mafia and I would think it's tough for a lone gunman to take out all the Townies before he/she gets voted out.
I'm sticking with my vote for noage right now but it's kind of a toss-up between him and jhammet as to my hunch. I don't think Bek is Mafia as jhammet was trying to get her and me in a runoff early in the game for no apparent reason. I may end up switching to jhammet before this vote is closed if I see a good enough reason.
I probably should have worded that better. I just meant the Mafia killed him with the motive of causing confusion and getting the townspeople off the trail.
I think I know what you meant. You were wondering if Kdogg could be Mafia and was bumped off to complicate matters? My point was that if Kdogg was Mafia then I don't think they would have done that unless all three Mafia were still alive. Being a noob I don't know if purposefully going to a single Mafia left alive would be wise but I don't think that's the case. If it were then that would mean the Sarah, EAP and Jack were all Townies or Inspector. And that would mean that I'm feeling about ready to get whacked.
I think I know what you meant. You were wondering if Kdogg could be Mafia and was bumped off to complicate matters? My point was that if Kdogg was Mafia then I don't think they would have done that unless all three Mafia were still alive. Being a noob I don't know if purposefully going to a single Mafia left alive would be wise but I don't think that's the case. If it were then that would mean the Sarah, EAP and Jack were all Townies or Inspector. And that would mean that I'm feeling about ready to get whacked.
Nope, Kdogg was a townie. I was just bringing that up as a possible angle. That Kdogg could have been way off and they killed him to make us think other wise.
I'm positive that's not what happened. I was simply laying it out as a possibility.
Quacker, what do you think of NBF's post? Would you agree that it's the most logical explanation we have at the moment?
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on May 31, 2011 2:52:58 GMT -5
I think that we should still at least still look at the players NAMED by EAP, not just the players who voted for EAP. The reason I say that, besides the fact that I voted for EAP and am a townsperson, is that I am convinced that Mafia split their vote, and that at least one, possibly two voted for Sarah. That's why I think looking at who SHE fingered via vote and comment is more effective. It just so happens that three of the ones she named also voted for her. I remain convinced that IF she was Inspector, then she voted for or mentioned the name she had in hand. That was my reason for getting rid of Jack. I'm not convinced about Sarah, but that was a possibilty too. And that is why NoAge comes to mind, and lastly Quacker (however I think Quacker hit the nail on the head with one of his prior posts). I agree with SFA, that we may be shooting ourselves in the foot, but if we are convinced that EAP was Inspector, that is the most concrete evidence we have of who has the greater probability of being Mafia. I will change this line of thinking if someone points out a more convincing pattern. I also suspect that, as long as Kdogg wasn't a smoke screen Mafia, that one of two other players is Mafia. But the last player who started digging into it got whacked, so I'm keeping mum.
I'm curious, of the two people we townspeople have voted off, who does everyone else think was more likely to be Mafia? Sarah Jack Sarah AND Jack
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I think that we should still at least still look at the players NAMED by EAP, not just the players who voted for EAP. The reason I say that, besides the fact that I voted for EAP and am a townsperson, is that I am convinced that Mafia split their vote, and that at least one, possibly two voted for Sarah. That's why I think looking at who SHE fingered via vote and comment is more effective. It just so happens that three of the ones she named also voted for her. I remain convinced that IF she was Inspector, then she voted for or mentioned the name she had in hand. That was my reason for getting rid of Jack.
We absolutely should but we also have to keep in mind that not all the mafia are likely to be on the list of people she voted for or the list of those who voted for her.
For example, if she hit upon Jack by random vote and was given Sarah's name. We can be pretty sure that a third mafia never voted for EAP. So we need to start looking elsewhere in case we find ourselves in round 5 with everyone on this list dead and the game still going.
based on kdogg's explanation, one of the people who voted for me is DEFINITELY mafia.
Noage>>>EAP Jack >>>EAP sarah>>>EAP LLL>>>EAP (I also voted for her at one point but I wasn't in the group in question and I tied it up twice. Hopefully, that proves I was trying to do the right thing.)
It should be pointed out that both EAP and I ask for other players to help tie things up. Well to be clear, EAP ask to hear from Bek and Jhamm before the round was over. Neither offered to help, even when it was 5 -2 against EAP. Which makes it seem pretty clear that someone didn't want EAP around for even a second runoff.
The three players that were forced to vote at the end of the 1st round.
I think it's there is a good chance that at least one of these players knew 2 things. Sarah was mafia and EAP had her name. Going on NBF's last post, I think we've got a good case against Bek and/or quacker.
I'm curious, of the two people we townspeople have voted off, who does everyone else think was more likely to be Mafia? Sarah Jack Sarah AND Jack
Anyone have any hunches?
Unless this is a really brilliant set up then I'm pretty positive on Sarah. I'm not as sure about Jack but I do find the fact that he was so dead set against EAP being the inspector a little fishy. It's also strange that he sat on his vote for her the entire round. I'm about 70/30 on him being Mafia.
I'm not going to change my vote until I have too. I think NBF is on the right track but I'd like to see what my fellow townspeople decide to do. I'd really like to here from some of the accused players and let them make vote push for the players they find guilty.
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Post by LoveLuckLaughter on May 31, 2011 4:30:12 GMT -5
I see what you are trying to say, and I have Quacker on my list as well. I think it was odd that EAP said that she was suspicious of Quacker, asked us all what we thought about that, but then never voted for him. That is why I keep him on the list, because I don't know if that means that he was the name she had, and didn't want to draw more Mafia attention to herself by actually voting for him. The only hitch I see with the Bek/Quacker theory is that they BOTH voted for Sarah AND Jack. Seems kind of stupid to do if you are Mafia with either one of these players. Also, a post that Quacker made earlier in the game has helped me narrow down the 3rd Mafia to one of two players. I think that either Jack or NoAge is/where Mafia. I refuse to ignore what EAP said because I am now pretty sure that she was Inspector. I wasn't convinced first round and I kept my vote for her. But now that no one else seems to be leading us anywhere, I fear that she was. Or Sarah may have been. I am 100% sure that it was one of the two. But EAP is the only one who seemed to be hinting at it, so I have to go with that. Sarah may have been Mafia. I think NoAge or Jack, one of the two is Mafia. And the third player is someone playing the outside. It has to be someone who voted for Sarah. I think this is the most concrete theory I can come up with.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I see what you are trying to say, and I have Quacker on my list as well. I think it was odd that EAP said that she was suspicious of Quacker, asked us all what we thought about that, but then never voted for him. That is why I keep him on the list, because I don't know if that means that he was the name she had, and didn't want to draw more Mafia attention to herself by actually voting for him.
bonnaroo.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=games&thread=25464&page=4#871301 I think you are referring to a part of the runoff when Quacker was the only voting choice she had to cause a runoff. Jhamm had switched from Sarah to Bek. So she would have to vote for Quacker. She also talked as if she thought Quacker wasn't suspiciuos to her, at least at that part of the game.
That vote swap is one of the reason I'm suspicious of Jhamm and I'm not the first to bring it up.
The only hitch I see with the Bek/Quacker theory is that they BOTH voted for Sarah AND Jack. Seems kind of stupid to do if you are Mafia with either one of these players.
If you notice the post I quoted from Bacon above. They were made to vote again after we forced the 2 runoff. At that point, it was pretty clear EAP was claming to be inspector. Them voting for Sarah doesn't mean much at that point. It could just be them covering their tracts.
Bek never voted for Jack. She didn't vote in the second round.
Nope, Kdogg was a townie. I was just bringing that up as a possible angle. That Kdogg could have been way off and they killed him to make us think other wise.
In a way that makes me feel better.
I've been suspicious of Jhamm from the beginning because of his inferences that I (or Bek) was Mafia. I became suspicious of noage recently for reasons similar to LLL's recent post. I still don't think that Bek is mafia. If there was a runoff this round I would rather have it be Jhamm and noage because I think at least one of them is Mafia.
Edit: I just realized that I didn't answer your question as whether Kdogg was killed as a smokescreen because he was leaning the wrong way and the Mafia wanted to make it look like he was leaning the right way. I think he was leaning the right way and I think NBF is too.
I think that we should still at least still look at the players NAMED by EAP, not just the players who voted for EAP. The reason I say that, besides the fact that I voted for EAP and am a townsperson, is that I am convinced that Mafia split their vote, and that at least one, possibly two voted for Sarah. That's why I think looking at who SHE fingered via vote and comment is more effective. It just so happens that three of the ones she named also voted for her. I remain convinced that IF she was Inspector, then she voted for or mentioned the name she had in hand. That was my reason for getting rid of Jack. I'm not convinced about Sarah, but that was a possibilty too. And that is why NoAge comes to mind, and lastly Quacker (however I think Quacker hit the nail on the head with one of his prior posts). I agree with SFA, that we may be shooting ourselves in the foot, but if we are convinced that EAP was Inspector, that is the most concrete evidence we have of who has the greater probability of being Mafia. I will change this line of thinking if someone points out a more convincing pattern. I also suspect that, as long as Kdogg wasn't a smoke screen Mafia, that one of two other players is Mafia. But the last player who started digging into it got whacked, so I'm keeping mum.
I'm curious, of the two people we townspeople have voted off, who does everyone else think was more likely to be Mafia? Sarah Jack Sarah AND Jack
Anyone have any hunches?
My gut tells me Jack. He seemed to be really quiet for most of the first round but showed up to vote against EAP at opportune moments.
I see what you are trying to say, and I have Quacker on my list as well. I think it was odd that EAP said that she was suspicious of Quacker, asked us all what we thought about that, but then never voted for him. That is why I keep him on the list, because I don't know if that means that he was the name she had, and didn't want to draw more Mafia attention to herself by actually voting for him.
bonnaroo.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=games&thread=25464&page=4#871301 I think you are referring to a part of the runoff when Quacker was the only voting choice she had to cause a runoff. Jhamm had switched from Sarah to Bek. So she would have to vote for Quacker. She also talked as if she thought Quacker wasn't suspiciuos to her, at least at that part of the game.
That vote swap is one of the reason I'm suspicious of Jhamm and I'm not the first to bring it up.
The only hitch I see with the Bek/Quacker theory is that they BOTH voted for Sarah AND Jack. Seems kind of stupid to do if you are Mafia with either one of these players.
If you notice the post I quoted from Bacon above. They were made to vote again after we forced the 2 runoff. At that point, it was pretty clear EAP was claming to be inspector. Them voting for Sarah doesn't mean much at that point. It could just be them covering their tracts.
Bek never voted for Jack. She didn't vote in the second round.
There should be an OR in that sentence. I typed that last night at work and had typed it quickly because I had EMS call en route with an OD. That's why I edited the first post (patients), but I didn't have time to go back and edit this one.
Corrected sentence. The only hitch I see with the Bek/Quacker theory is that they BOTH voted for Sarah AND/OR Jack. Seems kind of stupid to do if you are Mafia with either one of these players.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I think that we should still at least still look at the players NAMED by EAP, not just the players who voted for EAP. The reason I say that, besides the fact that I voted for EAP and am a townsperson, is that I am convinced that Mafia split their vote, and that at least one, possibly two voted for Sarah. That's why I think looking at who SHE fingered via vote and comment is more effective. It just so happens that three of the ones she named also voted for her. I remain convinced that IF she was Inspector, then she voted for or mentioned the name she had in hand. That was my reason for getting rid of Jack. I'm not convinced about Sarah, but that was a possibilty too. And that is why NoAge comes to mind, and lastly Quacker (however I think Quacker hit the nail on the head with one of his prior posts). I agree with SFA, that we may be shooting ourselves in the foot, but if we are convinced that EAP was Inspector, that is the most concrete evidence we have of who has the greater probability of being Mafia. I will change this line of thinking if someone points out a more convincing pattern. I also suspect that, as long as Kdogg wasn't a smoke screen Mafia, that one of two other players is Mafia. But the last player who started digging into it got whacked, so I'm keeping mum.
I'm curious, of the two people we townspeople have voted off, who does everyone else think was more likely to be Mafia? Sarah Jack Sarah AND Jack
Anyone have any hunches?
My gut tells me Jack. He seemed to be really quiet for most of the first round but showed up to vote against EAP at opportune moments.
As of right now, I agree with this. Do you have any theories about Kdogg or EAP?
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I think that we should still at least still look at the players NAMED by EAP, not just the players who voted for EAP. The reason I say that, besides the fact that I voted for EAP and am a townsperson, is that I am convinced that Mafia split their vote, and that at least one, possibly two voted for Sarah. That's why I think looking at who SHE fingered via vote and comment is more effective. It just so happens that three of the ones she named also voted for her. I remain convinced that IF she was Inspector, then she voted for or mentioned the name she had in hand. That was my reason for getting rid of Jack.
We absolutely should but we also have to keep in mind that not all the mafia are likely to be on the list of people she voted for or the list of those who voted for her.
For example, if she hit upon Jack by random vote and was given Sarah's name. We can be pretty sure that a third mafia never voted for EAP. So we need to start looking elsewhere in case we find ourselves in round 5 with everyone on this list dead and the game still going.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
As of right now, I agree with this. Do you have any theories about Kdogg or EAP?
I'm thinking that EAP was the Inspector and had Jack's name but Sarah got her suspicious with her runoff manipulation the first day. EAP's vote against Jack on the first day might belie the fact that she was the Inspector but she did that under the guise of a voting partnership. I'm not sure if Sarah was Mafia. I think Kdogg was figuring things out and was duly whacked as a result. My gut tells me Jack was Mafia and after rereading the thread Jhamm seems the most suspicious to me.
Even thought this will raise suspicion towards me and also probably throw me into the runoff, I'm changing my vote.
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