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Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Jun 5, 2011 11:01:51 GMT -5
That is possible. If he was, it's hard for me to narrow down who he was working with because he seemed to, at one time or another, cast almost all of us under the light of suspicion. Except SFA. And Kdogg was more arguing with NBF, but he was killed off directly after really getting on the Jhamm bandwagon, and after that exchange with NBF.
Of all who were killed off, I think that it would be more likely that NBF was Mafia and working with Jhamm, as I stated during last round. I'm not sure, but that is something I keeping in the back of my mind for sure.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Jun 5, 2011 11:26:19 GMT -5
Also, in regards to Kdogg, he said that if he were killed off that we should look to NBF and NoAge. He then recanted that statement, but if he were Mafia, at least with one of those two, he can't imagine he would put that notion in our heads and then agree to take a whack. That would have risked putting attention on to them. Now, he may have been setting those two up I guess....but then why kill off NBF instead of keeping her around until the end and have his Mafia partners try to weave some suspicion around her.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Also, in regards to Kdogg, he said that if he were killed off that we should look to NBF and NoAge. He then recanted that statement, but if he were Mafia, at least with one of those two, he can't imagine he would put that notion in our heads and then agree to take a whack. That would have risked putting attention on to them. Now, he may have been setting those two up I guess....but then why kill off NBF instead of keeping her around until the end and have his Mafia partners try to weave some suspicion around her.
I see what you mean. So you're thinking that noage, NBF and Jack were/are the Mafia?
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Also, in regards to Kdogg, he said that if he were killed off that we should look to NBF and NoAge. He then recanted that statement, but if he were Mafia, at least with one of those two, he can't imagine he would put that notion in our heads and then agree to take a whack. That would have risked putting attention on to them. Now, he may have been setting those two up I guess....but then why kill off NBF instead of keeping her around until the end and have his Mafia partners try to weave some suspicion around her.
I see what you mean. So you're thinking that noage, NBF and Jack were/are the Mafia?
There is no way those three are Mafia. We know we killed at least one member, so there is no chance they would off NBF.
The more I read into the game the less I see noage as that suspicious. His vote for EAP was a good while before she hinted at being the inspector. I think Jhamm and you have done much more suspicious stuff. I honestly think we need to look more at Jhamm this round.
I'm still reading up but will post my reasons soon. I encourage y'all to look back as well.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Jun 5, 2011 16:03:27 GMT -5
I am open to this option, he is my number 2 and can easily move up to number one if you can find some convincing arguments. I was pretty unsure where to start so I went with who I had in mind last round. The most striking I could fine was the NBF connection. I'm at work so I don't have time to scour the thread right now but if you can find me something to look at I will.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I am open to this option, he is my number 2 and can easily move up to number one if you can find some convincing arguments. I was pretty unsure where to start so I went with who I had in mind last round. The most striking I could fine was the NBF connection. I'm at work so I don't have time to scour the thread right now but if you can find me something to look at I will.
Well, the hard part is figuring out who was actually guilty. Jhamm's actions could be defended by things involving players we voted off or are dead but that goes for any of us really. I'm reading through as if Sarah was the name EAP got because that is probable true.
BTW, several things point at quacker as well. The thing was him is that I don't really understand why the mafia would advise a first time player to run around voting for people like he did at the beginning.
I'm still wondering why You and I have made it this far without being voted for more. I'm trying to think of an angle. Maybe they are keeping us alive because we have been dead wrong and voting the way they want?
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We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Well I admit I've done things that may appear to be suspicious but my votes were for Sarah, Jack and JHamm. The JHamm vote was because I thought he was more likely than Bek at the time. I don't know if I still believe that.
Regardless, if either Jack or Sarah were Mafia I DID vote for them and they were killed. I may be a Noob but I don't think I would be stupid enough to vote against two people who very well appear to me Mafiaesque. I'm sticking with my vote for noage.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Jun 5, 2011 17:33:32 GMT -5
I never voted for Sarah, Kdogg, NBF, Quacker, Bek. And my Jhamm vote was in part to give time for a run-off in case anyone wanted to chime in. Also in part because of the NBF/Jhamm connection I came up with.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
I never voted for Sarah, Kdogg, NBF, Quacker, Bek. And my Jhamm vote was in part to give time for a run-off in case anyone wanted to chime in. Also in part because of the NBF/Jhamm connection I came up with.
As for your idea that Mafia could vote for each other to remove suspicion. Jhamm also voted for Sarah and changed that vote.
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Well I admit I've done things that may appear to be suspicious but my votes were for Sarah, Jack and JHamm. The JHamm vote was because I thought he was more likely than Bek at the time. I don't know if I still believe that.
Regardless, if either Jack or Sarah were Mafia I DID vote for them and they were killed. I may be a Noob but I don't think I would be stupid enough to vote against two people who very well appear to me Mafiaesque. I'm sticking with my vote for Noage.
Why don't you believe Jhamm is more likely mafia over Bek anymore?
Do you find Noage more suspicious then Jhamm or is this more of a defensive vote?
Just to be clear. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a new player. I didn't mean it that way. I was just saying that your behavior at the beginning of the game is not something the mafia usually does. In other words, it makes you far less suspicious to me.
I just realized that Senor KDogg decided to make himself a ref.
JHammett >>> Quacker
*I sure hope I am right. I half expected the mafia to kill me off last night, after my post.
Why are you so sure about Quacker?
What about your post made you think the Mafia would kill you? What I funny is the last to townspeople that got Whacked had started to look further into you.
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Why don't you believe Jhamm is more likely mafia over Bek anymore?
Do you find Noage more suspicious then Jhamm or is this more of a defensive vote?
Just to be clear. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a new player. I didn't mean it that way. I was just saying that your behavior at the beginning of the game is not something the mafia usually does. In other words, it makes you far less suspicious to me.
Oh I don't feel that there's anything wrong with being a new player. I myself said that stuff I did was suspicious - but fun!
I'm not sold on Bek being Mafia but JHamm's votes concur for the most part with mine. So I have to think that he's like-minded. Noage did vote for Jack but Jack may have been cut loose by the Mafia byt then because they knew he was a lost cause. Otherwise Noage's voting record is very Mafiaish.
I haven't made a defensive vote all game. I'm not afraid to die. Well, OK I am, but I wouldn't play the game defensively. The only kinky vote I made was the first one because I knew it would create a vote-off for a voting partner and stir things up. And that wasn't even a defensive vote because I was the only one in the game with no votes at the time.
Edit: Sorry it took so long but I was catching MMJ on the MJ webcast. Awesome set.
Checked in with Bacon via text today. He will be in transit tomorrow and expects to be back to take over again for Day Five. I shall continue to be Acting Referee until he makes a post in this thread to reclaim it.
Why don't you believe Jhamm is more likely mafia over Bek anymore?
Do you find Noage more suspicious then Jhamm or is this more of a defensive vote?
Just to be clear. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being a new player. I didn't mean it that way. I was just saying that your behavior at the beginning of the game is not something the mafia usually does. In other words, it makes you far less suspicious to me.
Oh I don't feel that there's anything wrong with being a new player. I myself said that stuff I did was suspicious - but fun!
I'm not sold on Bek being Mafia but JHamm's votes concur for the most part with mine. So I have to think that he's like-minded. Noage did vote for Jack but Jack may have been cut loose by the Mafia byt then because they knew he was a lost cause. Otherwise Noage's voting record is very Mafiaish.
I haven't made a defensive vote all game. I'm not afraid to die. Well, OK I am, but I wouldn't play the game defensively. The only kinky vote I made was the first one because I knew it would create a vote-off for a voting partner and stir things up. And that wasn't even a defensive vote because I was the only one in the game with no votes at the time.
Edit: Sorry it took so long but I was catching MMJ on the MJ webcast. Awesome set.
Well, if Bek wasn't Mafia then shouldn't that point more towards Jhamm who has been after her the entire game? He stacked a vote at the beginning (droping a vote for Sarah) that would have killed Bek, if NBF hadn't of changed her vote. This was before votes moved to EAP. Couldn't it be possible that the Mafia was at first trying to push for Bek under the guise of Kdogg's suspicion and when NBF changed her vote that had to take another route?
Also, Sarah might have been cut loose by the Mafia. Piling on votes for her after EAP hinted at being the inspector doesn't really prove anything.
Here's the thing. If we have two Mafia dead then we could probable win this pretty easy. They are probable going to kill LLL or I overnight because we are the two that are the least suspicious. They will buddy up to the one they know will vote their way.
BUT if there are two mafia left, we could be in trouble and could use a little more evidence. I think someone should change their vote to Jhamm and let Noage make the deciding vote in this. Or noage could change his vote and make Jhamm have the final decision.
That way we at least make one of the suspicious players make a move that can help us next round. Having me blindly vote off one of you two won't be anywhere as helpful to us next round. At least I don't believe so.
Kdogg I'm going to null my vote for a hour or so to let people think about it. If no one likes the idea I'll go ahead and vote and end the round.
SFA>>>Jhamm>>>null
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We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
That's funny. I was just going to post "vote for one of us" because it seems like there's no sense in a runoff this time. I think this is our best bet. And if noage isn't Mafia I'm going to be pissed!
If Noage is Mafia then there is no sense in it. I'm not entirely convinced of that and thought it might help to make them more active. Reading over this game fried my brain. Ohh, well.
Since I might be killed I'd just like to share this list.
Jhamm Noage quacker LLL me
Maybe this vote will redeem me for not trusting Jhamm when he was the inspector, a few games back, and helping mafia Noage win
Last Edit: Jun 5, 2011 23:43:17 GMT -5 by Deleted - Back to Top
Here's the thing. If we have two Mafia dead then we could probable win this pretty easy. They are probable going to kill LLL or I overnight because we are the two that are the least suspicious. They will buddy up to the one they know will vote their way.
If Noage is Mafia then there is no sense in it. I'm not entirely convinced of that and thought it might help to make them more active. Reading over this game fried my brain. Ohh, well.
Since I might be killed I'd just like to share this list.
Jhamm Noage quacker LLL me
Maybe this vote will redeem me for not trusting Jhamm when he was the inspector, a few games back, and helping mafia Noage win
Da Fuk! I is the weakest link?!
I had to call off today due to double trouble car trouble. One is leaking transmission fluid all of a sudden and the other is suddenly marking his territory with oil, likely from the oil temp gauge I just had put in. Son of a monkeys uncle! I'm supposed to leave at 900am tomorrow!
So two little piggies left and one wolf. Process of elimination would dictate:
If Jhamm is Mafia, given the remaining four he would not kill off Quacker because SFA and I would have voted together and offed him for sure. If he had voted me off, Quacker and SFA were already gunning for him, SFA lists him as his top suspect in his pre-death post. However, after reading that predeath post, seems almost too obvious? Or maybe because it seems too obvious, it is really less obvious (that made my brain hurt). I am leery of him, but not as much so because of NBF being killed off. But I also have questions about Quacker because of the Quacker/Bek team up that Jhamm is a proponent of. So I am the weakest link here.
If Quacker is Mafia, he would likely not vote Jhamm off because SFA and I would have voted together to off him, because he was our lowest tier suspect. If he voted me off, he may have been ok since SFA was pro Jhamm. If he voted SFA off, he knows that I am less suspicious of him than Jhamm. SFA and I were equally weak links here. Toss up.
If I were Mafia, I would have kept SFA, my biggest ally. Because he would have kept voting with me because he was pretty sure about Jhamm, and kind of sure about Quacker.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
CHIT!!!
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