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EAP, I know you're in the running for killin' and all, but you seem uber-defensive. (Also, did you really call LLL a dumbo? Do you think perhaps you are spending too much time with your students? )
Hey now... Texas has a lot of catching up to do. Those kids need all the help they can get.
Know what I think? Odds of being Mafia = 3 in 11 Players voting EAP = 4 in 11
I wouldn't be surprised if we had one Mafia in the runoff. I wouldn't be surprised if we had one Mafia voting EAP. I already said I got a beer on either Bek&quacker being Mafia. The likelihood of EAP having a Mafia currently voting for her makes me think they don't mind if she dies. As such, I think Townspeople ought to channel their votes away from her.
I still say Bek vs. quacker gives us a 50-50 shot.
In the vote tally before this one, Bek also had 4 votes for her. So, if this is your reasoning as to EAP (which I don't necessarily disagree with, actually), why does it not apply to Bek as well? And I'm going to need a better reason than that she voted for you.
I am single-positive on Bek and quacker. However, only one player meets both criteria I just laid out. I am double-positive here.
kdogg>>>Sarah
Just out of curiosity (and since I am included in the list), why do you think at least one Mafia is voting for EAP? If EAP is mafia, then I would say you are probably wrong. If EAP is innocent, then you are probably right. I just would like to know what you're thinking.
I wouldn't be surprised if we had one Mafia in the runoff.
Jeez, I would hope so. If not we've certainly defied the odds. The only question is who is it? And considering that I was (ashamedly) one of the frequent posters on the last Mafia game that I wasn't even playing, I would think that my high post count wouldn't be surprising.
I am single-positive on Bek and quacker. However, only one player meets both criteria I just laid out. I am double-positive here.
kdogg>>>Sarah
Just out of curiosity (and since I am included in the list), why do you think at least one Mafia is voting for EAP? If EAP is mafia, then I would say you are probably wrong. If EAP is innocent, then you are probably right. I just would like to know what you're thinking.
Forgive me, I'm about to agree with kdogg on something.
If you've got one person with 4 out of 11 votes, and that person is mafia, then it is likely that all 4 of those voters are innocent. If one of the players was a fellow mafia who had voted for that person to cover up an alliance, it's pretty likely that they would change their vote to protect that person.* So, assuming that EAP is mafia, it is safe to further assume that 4 out of 8 innocent players all happened to hit on a mafia member first round. It's not impossible, but it doesn't seem terribly probable. It seems more likely that she's innocent and at least one of the people voting for her is mafia.
*Reading that, it occurs to me that there is potential for this argument to be used against me because bek had 4 votes, and I changed my vote off of her. If bek and I were mafia together, though, I would not have voted for her in the first place because my vote for her was the vote that changed it from a straight vote for kdogg to a runoff between bek and kdogg.
I can't help but suspect that the vote stacking on EAP might be related to her vote for Sarah.
It is suspicious that EAP seems the most targeted here, and she just so happens to be running voting for the runoff candidate with the least votes.
If I have to concede that the Mafia is okay with EAP dying, I have to further concede that it appears the Mafia does not want Sarah gone with her lone vote. Just sayin'.
i'm nulling my vote until someone gets some sense.
THANK YOU KDOGG. i promise you guys i am not leading you astray.
i would actually like to propose that bek change her vote to sarah. i think that quacker is just being kind of out there (sorry dude ) and is just saying what he thinks first. i don't think he's really done anything too suspicious (yet???).
based on kdogg's explanation, one of the people who voted for me is DEFINITELY mafia.
bacon i think it obvious who i will vote for, but can we please wait for bek and quacker jhammet to check back in????
EDIT: sorry, meant to put jhammet instead of quacker, to respond to kdogg's request.
Last Edit: May 19, 2011 20:48:59 GMT -5 by EAP - Back to Top
Would like to keep my post count consistent to 1 just in case I ever actually play this fascinating game. SFA.. Really, could you please put the cookie on Fabio's head. It would add something desirable to the picture. (ick)
Edit... keeping to 1.. sorry - this ^^^ was posted before i finished spell checking and replied.
LLL, are you saying that you plan on giving Sarah less attention the whole game because she's a new player or just this round.
God no. I just think out of those 4 suspects her and quacker are the LEAST likely guilty. And, it was said during the last game (my first game) that everyone TRIES to keep new players around at least through the first round out of courtesy. I'm doing the same that was done unto me. And look what happened, everyone was right to have kept me around. It was the people pressing most for my elimination who turned out to be Mafia.
If Sarah suddenly starts acting wackadoodle, then she is going to be deemed just as suspicious as the rest.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Post by popsicle sarah on May 19, 2011 23:46:29 GMT -5
I don't have any evidence or statistics to prove that I'm a townsperson. The only thing I can say is, like I said when I cast my vote for her, my vote for EAP at the start of the runoff was merely reciprocal. I'm disappointed that my obviously uninformed decision lead to this. I guess I still don't understand this game or how I should've played to help uncover Mafia. My only hope at this point (If I don't make it through this round or mafia kill) is that my death will somehow help you guys figure out who Mafia is.
I should've listened to my gut when it told me I wasn't smart enough to play this game. I really wish I could've had enough time to read some past games for some insight, but my work life has been absorbing all of my time, energy, and brainpower lately.
P.S. when I do get killed I have one request: can I have as non-violent of a death as possible?
I don't have any evidence or statistics to prove that I'm a townsperson. The only thing I can say is, like I said when I cast my vote for her, my vote for EAP at the start of the runoff was merely reciprocal. I'm disappointed that my obviously uninformed decision lead to this. I guess I still don't understand this game or how I should've played to help uncover Mafia. My only hope at this point (If I don't make it through this round or mafia kill) is that my death will somehow help you guys figure out who Mafia is.
I should've listened to my gut when it told me I wasn't smart enough to play this game. I really wish I could've had enough time to read some past games for some insight, but my work life has been absorbing all of my time, energy, and brainpower lately.
P.S. when I do get killed I have one request: can I have as non-violent of a death as possible?
If I can play this game then you are plenty smart enough to play. Please don't take it personally. I'm not voting for you because I think you are overly guilty. I did it to force others to swap votes and because I wanted to even out what was going on with EAP.
For all I know, I might be getting duped but generally the mafia are usually behind vote stacking.
In the vote tally before this one, Bek also had 4 votes for her. So, if this is your reasoning as to EAP (which I don't necessarily disagree with, actually), why does it not apply to Bek as well? And I'm going to need a better reason than that she voted for you.
I'd actually like an answer to this as well.
As it stands, I think we are probable on the verge of a two person runoff with two players that haven't done anything incredibly suspicious. If the vote stacking idea holds true for EAP, then why not Bek?
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on May 20, 2011 1:29:18 GMT -5
Technically it was. So we can add quacker, kdogg and jhamm, and initially NBF to the list of vote stackers. That's a long list of suspects. Good luck untangling this mess. I don't even know where to start and I have no good reason to change my vote at this moment so I remain where I am unless someone really screws the pooch and makes it obvious that they are in the mob.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Technically it was. So we can add quacker, kdogg and jhamm, and initially NBF to the list of vote stackers. That's a long list of suspects. Good luck untangling this mess. I don't even know where to start and I have no good reason to change my vote at this moment so I remain where I am unless someone really screws the pooch and makes it obvious that they are in the mob.
It's the first round and it's been a mess. Forcing another runoff does more good then letting EAP just be voted off.
I'm getting really uncomfortable with my vote switch. Kdogg hasn't made an effort to address anything I've said.I know he is diligent in keeping up with this game.
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) and is just saying what he thinks first. i don't think he's really done anything too suspicious (yet???).
