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Theres nothing better then digging yourself a place to sit and lounging on the beach listening to great tunes as the sun goes down.
Sure there is! Digging yourself a place to sit and lounging on the beach listening to great tunes as the sun goes down... and having mexican waiters serve you free booze and other party favors!
Post by problem dog on Mar 16, 2012 11:13:30 GMT -5
No way they allow swimming, the risk is too high. All it takes is one drunk idiot or some kid tripping for the first time. The uptight portion of the community is up their ass enough already, a death on the festival grounds would just make it worse.
I think you guys are overthinking this. Not everyone will want to be in the water.
I was in the water both years of Deluna as well. We sat in the water and blasted off during f'n Willie Nelson. Last year I was in the water near a group of cops on ATVs dancing in the moonlight with Manta Ray's swimming around me during Jane's Addiction. I just did Widespread's Mexico run and I stayed in the water during every show.
It's really not that big of a liability. People that can't swim aren't going to be getting in the water.
Have lifeguards posted up, and have a buoy line out like 25 feet or so as the line for how far you can go out and it's not a problem. It's just stupid to let people swim out as far as they want right outside the festival but not inside. There are lifeguards outside of the festival site for that reason. People were falling out and the sun was getting to them because they coudn't get in the water.
If you prevented water access from the beach on a regular day, people wouldn't go.
I'm with you completely on it making the experience a billion times better...I'd love more than anything in the world to be able to listen to jams from the water. But I also used to lifeguard and there's really only so many people you can keep an eye on at once. Not knowing how many people will be in the water (you can't very well keep people out with a max capacity) would be a nightmare because you'd still have to plan for worst--if you have 35k people and each guard can conservatively keep an eye on 35 people at a time (and believe me, that's more than it sounds like), you'd need a thousand lifeguards. Not suggesting that equation is right, but you get the point. Realistically, they'd need a hundred guards and that's tough to find.
There's a lot that can go wrong when you're in the sun all day...calm gulf water and shallow depth doesn't make it less likely that people will cramp when swimming (dehydration), faint because of the heat or go into shock when they go from overheated to a cool dunk in the water. I dunno, I just don't see it happening.
But how sweet would it be to one day be in the water listening to JBT playing Ocean?
Post by flatbrimtracksuit on Mar 18, 2012 12:22:48 GMT -5
you guys remember the first bonnaroo? pretty sure it was in the 100s! That was the hottest fest Ive been to! out of the 7 bonnaroos Ive been to that was the most intense heat
Theres nothing better then digging yourself a place to sit and lounging on the beach listening to great tunes as the sun goes down.
Sure there is! Digging yourself a place to sit and lounging on the beach listening to great tunes as the sun goes down... and having mexican waiters serve you free booze and other party favors!
Or watching Jess's son dig until he hits water. That was a fest highlight last year.
I'm ok with no water access. It's bad enough that people trash the shore, I don't want everyone littering in the water too. And if some dummy drowned then the entire festival could be threatened.
All you have to do is put swim at your own risk signs. If it works for hotel pools to prevent them from being liable for idiots realted accidents, then why wouldn't it work for this? Rope the poop off before it gets over 4 feet deep. There's no way all 35k attendees are gonna want to dip their balls in the ocean at the same time. I would wager that there would never be over 1000 folks be in it at once. Probably the same % of attendees know how to do CPR, artificial respiration, etc. {Insert George Carlin's Pussification of America rant}
All you have to do is put swim at your own risk signs. If it works for hotel pools to prevent them from being liable for idiots realted accidents, then why wouldn't it work for this? Rope the poop off before it gets over 4 feet deep. There's no way all 35k attendees are gonna want to dip their balls in the ocean at the same time. I would wager that there would never be over 1000 folks be in it at once. Probably the same % of attendees know how to do CPR, artificial respiration, etc. {Insert George Carlin's Pussification of America rant}
That's not really how liability works, though. Putting up signs won't shield them from lawsuits. It's not just the lawsuits, either, they would also get a ton of bad press and provide ammo for the Gulf Shores residents that want to get rid of the festival.
I know duder, I was just trying to sound like an old fart that's fed up with "the man" coming down on him all the time. I wouldn't be surprised of I get denied the right to smoke a damn cig in most areas of this festival even though we're outside. I'm willing to bet that we get frisked by security much harder than we did last year too making the line to get inside even longer/slower. TSA'd
I know duder, I was just trying to sound like an old fart that's fed up with "the man" coming down on him all the time. I wouldn't be surprised of I get denied the right to smoke a damn cig in most areas of this festival even though we're outside. I'm willing to bet that we get frisked by security much harder than we did last year too making the line to get inside even longer/slower. TSA'd
And wow, you're like a walking, talking infomercial to turn people away from Pearl Jam and Ohio State, aren't you? Before you started posting here I quite liked Pearl Jam and was indifferent towards OSU, now I find myself wishing that Eddie Vedder falls down a mine shaft or that Columbus is infested with locusts
It got progressively worse each day, but they didn't touch my weewee or anything. Sunday, they came down hard on everybody though because it was obvious that a bunch of dope came through the two previous days. It kind of depends on what you are wearing and whether you are carrying a backpack or a camelbak too. They wanna make damn sure that there's no liquids (water, alcohol, etc) on you (only exception being sunscreen).
I had no problem sneaking in a six pack of beers and a flask every day of the fest. I found that if I just put a ton of crap like towels, extra shirts, sun screen, hats, and whatever else you need for a day at the beach in your backpack, the gate people will either 1. Think its totally innocent and not dig deep or 2. go through all your stuff and get so flustered that they'll just let you through. A couple of my other buddies did it too. A lot of those people are volunteers who don't care whether or not you buy booze inside so they'll let it slide if you're obviously not holding anything dangerous or heady.
I could have snuck in anything friday, but they checked my ass good on saturday and sunday. It very well could have been because I was already trashed when I entered the festival, because we were pre-gaming hard at the condo with our own alcohol.
Post by problem dog on Mar 19, 2012 17:45:12 GMT -5
Frisking was totally inconsistent last year, at least from the stories I've heard. Just depended on whoever was doing the pat downs. As was said above, you're dealing with a lot volunteers, so most of them don't really want to work too hard or even care if you sneak something in. Open your main pocket if you've got a bag, pull out the camelbak bladder, just generally look like you're making their job easier for them....that works just about everywhere.
Frisking was nonexistent at the press entrance, however.
Before going in for Paul Simon they were searching super hard. The female I had for the search grabbed my nuts/dong, no nans, she really did. I didn't care I just wanted to get in.
I know a couple of people they asked to take their shoes off. A buddy of mine got popped when they grabbed his dong and felt a bag of boomers....he reacted like "WTF!" and the searcher yelled for police saying he resisted.
Post by highcountrychillin on Mar 20, 2012 11:20:55 GMT -5
i had the same experience. Friday wasnt heavy petting just took sooooo long. Sat was a joke ( resulting in a shit show). The only bad time was right before BK/ Paul simon. I had a large black man turn my bag upside down throw away 6-8 beers then dump out my flask. Regardless that was one of the best shows i have ever seen. Like stated above all you can do is be courteous and have good spots for the good things
The facebook page just announced Tony Clifton is playing a late night show at the hangout. Maybe this was already determined and I missed it but this was news to me.
Post by highcountrychillin on Mar 21, 2012 11:09:48 GMT -5
this is looking better by the day. Tony was awesome!! last year so the addition of him and umphreys is glorious. gba lloks like a blast & boombox plays at my school every year. Fun shows. mr. boogie man can get you moving
^^^ It cost extra the past two years so I'm gonna go ahead and say YES. Buy your tix early. People were ebaying Assnectar tix for over $200 before the fest last year....I shoulda got in on that.
