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Post by NothingButFlowers on Aug 4, 2011 9:58:28 GMT -5
Vote Tally: noage - 4 LLL - 4 jhammett - 3
Votes So Far: noage>>> Mike D >>> jhammett >>> LLL LLL >>> SFA >>> noage SFA >>> LLL Mike D >>> noage Cap'n Jack >>> jhammett Scrog >>> LLL >>> noage Popsicle Sarah >>> jhammett Fawnmart >>> LLL Holls >>> LLL jhammett >>> noage EAP >>> jhammett
Left To Vote:
Day 1 - Round 2 voting is now closed, and we have another runoff. As always, votes for runoff candidates will carry over but may be changed before voting closes. Unless circumstances require otherwise, voting will close tomorrow at 8:00 p.m.
Vote Tally: noage - 4 LLL - 4
Votes So Far: noage >>> LLL LLL >>> noage SFA >>> LLL Mike D >>> noage Scrog >>> noage Fawnmart >>> LLL Holls >>> LLL jhammett >>> noage
i'm sure i would choose wrong! kdogg said i should have been flattered i was killed first last game, but i think i must have people fooled cause i never know what's going on. hahahah.
also, i guess i will vote for noage. sorry dude, it is just harder for me to tell when you are mafia and i actually guessed LLL when i was the dead inspector. either way, i think both of you might be innocent.
Just checking in. Usually I am more quiet about what I am thinking during a game, but I am going to try to be a bit more vocal in this one. I am interested in seeing who Scrog is going to vote for/if there is going to be any changes in voting to give someone two votes.
This and Scrogs post voting for me are making me the most uneasy as of now. Scrogs for two separate reasons, and Noage because he suddenly wants to become more "vocal"? Damned if you do, damned if you don't Noage. Any changes made by a player make me perk my ears a little.
What are the two separate reasons? I might want to change my vote.
And Noage, any time someone gives a reason for why they are doing something, it comes across as being guilty, to me at least.
also, i guess i will vote for noage. sorry dude, it is just harder for me to tell when you are mafia and i actually guessed LLL when i was the dead inspector. either way, i think both of you might be innocent.
EAP>>>>noage
No worries, we probably both are innocent. Usually how it goes.
This and Scrogs post voting for me are making me the most uneasy as of now. Scrogs for two separate reasons, and Noage because he suddenly wants to become more "vocal"? Damned if you do, damned if you don't Noage. Any changes made by a player make me perk my ears a little.
What are the two separate reasons? I might want to change my vote.
And Noage, any time someone gives a reason for why they are doing something, it comes across as being guilty, to me at least.
If I were Mafia, I wouldn't do something a reckless as announcing how I was going to be playing the game. I've said this in most of the games, but usually the way people win mafia is by laying low, not being out in the open. Hell, look at the last game when I got voted off. The two louder players (NBF and Bek) were accusing each other while the mafia (you) just cautiously voted and won the game. That being said, I know I am not mafia, but LLL is probably not either, so it really doesn't matter which one of us goes.
Fawn is right. Our only discussion about mafia at the house, was to not discuss Mafia and that conversation happened around game time on Friday night. I PM the Ref about returning on Tuesday and I posted my response and to be honest and fairness to Fawn, I do not think we discussed not voting. I was not voting because I did not want to start yet and that was in my head. LLL my vote was to help speed up the game, it had to be someone, and I used the same story/joke from last round. I hear you. I found JHam suspicious when he switched votes off me so quick. I also find Noage being very talkative as strange and what we in the business call a 'tail'. To me, what really sets off 'red flags', hello inspector look here,
Well, in my opinion if we were to add another it would be Scrog or Fawnmart. Then I start thinking that maybe they would have done this on purpose. If the two of them are mafia, both being new players, they could have schemed this up and forced a "noob mistake" of sorts, wait to see if anyone catches on or calls em out, then just say it was a mistake. This would encourage/excuse sloppy play and voting for fawn for the rest of the game. All this stuff is jumbled in my head, I hope yall can understand where I am coming from here. thoughts??
My thoughts are, you are digging deep, trying to control the game. Trying to make something out of nothing. I think you went with the ole, 'hey I will vote for one of my own, Noage, Mafia, and that way it will distance us from each other.' I did that with JHam last game, but I waited until the second round, But your Mafia-voting-partner is now in a run off.
I don't know for a fact if Noage is innocent or not, but if I change my vote now from him to Fawn or Scrog it makes me look a little guilty switching from Noage cause he is the one calling for additions, which makes me think its possible he is mafia as well.
Why would you change your vote from Noage or feel the need to explain that. Noage has two votes and is in the run-off, I had no votes(which surprised me) at that time and would need two people to change their vote FM needed one. If you changed you vote from Noage he was no longer in the run-off. I think you would like that, but you are right, it would make you look suspicious, because it would be. Are you going a stay with the ship or change your vote? I say it is a tail, because he looks to be a Mafia Rat.
Scrog>>>Noage
Not really pertinent to the voting on hand now, but I don't see how this is digging deep. You wanna see digging deep, take a look at most of kdoggs games, and from what I remember Bec used to be pretty vocal as well (until her most recent games). The two of them and NBF seemed to me to be the most active players and none of them are playing this round. Not sure I have ever seen a round with so few posts through 2 runnoffs. I am trying to help us and get some wheels turning in peoples heads and it has to be someone. If I posted about an agreement with voting and the other person disregarded it in the game, I would have an "oh sh*t" moment and expect to be called out on it. I realize your defense of saying I am digging too deep is going to be good for you, no one else seems to have problem with my train of thought though.
Heck, any other game folks would also be going on about Jack's vote for noage, what seems to be the vote that puts it over the top for Noages death had no real explanation other than careful consideration.
I don't know, maybe this is digging deep, but there are a bunch of folks out there that aren't digging at all.
If anyone wants to switch their vote and save me, now would be the time. If not, good luck to all the Townies (you'll still have 3 left). Remember that the players that are acting the most innocent and inconspicuous are probably the ones you need to go after. I'm not saying that there can't be a vocal mafia member, but if there is one, usually there is just one.
edit: got this in too late. Disregard the first sentence and good luck
Fawn is right. Our only discussion about mafia at the house, was to not discuss Mafia and that conversation happened around game time on Friday night. I PM the Ref about returning on Tuesday and I posted my response and to be honest and fairness to Fawn, I do not think we discussed not voting. I was not voting because I did not want to start yet and that was in my head. LLL my vote was to help speed up the game, it had to be someone, and I used the same story/joke from last round. I hear you. I found JHam suspicious when he switched votes off me so quick. I also find Noage being very talkative as strange and what we in the business call a 'tail'. To me, what really sets off 'red flags', hello inspector look here,
My thoughts are, you are digging deep, trying to control the game. Trying to make something out of nothing. I think you went with the ole, 'hey I will vote for one of my own, Noage, Mafia, and that way it will distance us from each other.' I did that with JHam last game, but I waited until the second round, But your Mafia-voting-partner is now in a run off. Why would you change your vote from Noage or feel the need to explain that. Noage has two votes and is in the run-off, I had no votes(which surprised me) at that time and would need two people to change their vote FM needed one. If you changed you vote from Noage he was no longer in the run-off. I think you would like that, but you are right, it would make you look suspicious, because it would be. Are you going a stay with the ship or change your vote? I say it is a tail, because he looks to be a Mafia Rat.
Scrog>>>Noage
Not really pertinent to the voting on hand now, but I don't see how this is digging deep. You wanna see digging deep, take a look at most of kdoggs games, and from what I remember Bec used to be pretty vocal as well (until her most recent games). The two of them and NBF seemed to me to be the most active players and none of them are playing this round. Not sure I have ever seen a round with so few posts through 2 runnoffs. I am trying to help us and get some wheels turning in peoples heads and it has to be someone. If I posted about an agreement with voting and the other person disregarded it in the game, I would have an "oh sh*t" moment and expect to be called out on it. I realize your defense of saying I am digging too deep is going to be good for you, no one else seems to have problem with my train of thought though.
Heck, any other game folks would also be going on about Jack's vote for noage, what seems to be the vote that puts it over the top for Noages death had no real explanation other than careful consideration.
I don't know, maybe this is digging deep, but there are a bunch of folks out there that aren't digging at all.
I'm going to have to go to Kdogg and get a lesson on how to do a partial quote.
This point from Mike D "If I posted about an agreement with voting and the other person disregarded it in the game, I would have an "oh sh*t" moment and expect to be called out on it".
I expected to be called out on my new partner vote much sooner than it occured as it conflicted with Scrog's post. And responded with my truthful thoughts as to how I reached that decision to go ahead and vote.
In mafia 37 Mike D was in a pinch and threw some Sh% to see if it would stick... Had to wonder if this was the same tactic, however he was not in any jeopardy at the time. So it seemed like a very rational call out. Found Scrog's response to Mike D's digging intriguing. Still interested as to why LLL did not answer Sarah's question.
This is an evil game. At least when one is just reading you can shut if off when its time to sleep.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Aug 6, 2011 8:17:54 GMT -5
LLL>>>SFA
Scrog answered my call out sufficiently to drop my concern for now. So there was no reason to answer Sarah's question as that point. If the second prong of my concern/wonderment develops, I will address it further then
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Scrog answered my call out sufficiently to drop my concern for now. So there was no reason to answer Sarah's question as that point. If the second prong of my concern/wonderment develops, I will address it further then
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
Post by LoveLuckLaughter on Aug 8, 2011 10:28:27 GMT -5
LLL>>>>SFA
While I realize that Inspector and Mafia had the option to wait until today, they did not have to. So someone may have been stalling the game for one reason or another.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
NBF, love the six feet under deaths!! def one of my favorite shows of all time. peter krause is such a dreamboat.
i am still unsure of what's going on and my vote is easily swayed by good arguments at this point. i'm going to stick with my first partner for now though.....
Post by NothingButFlowers on Aug 8, 2011 12:50:37 GMT -5
Just so you all know, I seem to be having trouble loading inforoo on computers today, so I am doing this from my phone, which will surely die sometime before I leave work today. I'm going to keep up as best I can but I apologize in advance if I lag a little or say something that doesn't exactly make sense.
i am still unsure of what's going on and my vote is easily swayed by good arguments at this point. i'm going to stick with my first partner for now though.....
EAP>>>>>popsicle stick
We still don't have much to go on, so I'm gonna do the same thing until I get a reason to switch.
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