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Post by popsicle sarah on Aug 11, 2011 8:52:07 GMT -5
I hate this game. I take things way too seriously and I'm letting a stupid game compound the enormous stress I have going on in my life. Me and this game are not a fit. I kept telling myself that this is a game of logic, but it's not. It's a game of jumbling a bunch of words together and trying to convince other people that what you said makes sense. I'm just not a good bull-shitter... it takes some sort of brainpower that i just don't have. I will keep getting railroaded in this game. If there's ever a happy sunshine rainbows and unicorns frolicking in a dandelion field Mafia then I'm your girl lol... Until then I'm out. Have fun guys and if you remember... Please don't ask me to play anymore. Thanks.
Popsicle>>>Popsicle (not that it matters because I was about to die anyway)
Post by NothingButFlowers on Aug 11, 2011 9:21:00 GMT -5
Vote Tally: Popsicle Sarah - 6 Scrog - 3
Votes So Far: LLL >>> SFA >>> Popsicle Sarah SFA >>> Popsicle Sarah EAP >>> Popsicle Sarah >>> Scrog >>> null >>> Scrog >>> Popsicle Sarah Popsicle Sarah >>> SFA >>> Scrog >>> Popsicle Sarah Holls >>> Scrog Mike D >>> Scrog jhammett >>> Popsicle Sarah Fawnmart >>> Scrog Scrog >>> Popsicle Sarah
I have read over everything, and between the 2 players left in the runoff, I feel like scrog is the more suspicious one. Not because of his crazy vote changing antics, but more because of how a few other people are voting.
Sorry bud, gotta go with my gut on this one. Plus I still owe sarah for the popsicles at brunch.
Post by NothingButFlowers on Aug 11, 2011 10:37:42 GMT -5
Vote Tally: Popsicle Sarah - 5 Scrog - 4
Votes So Far: LLL >>> SFA >>> Popsicle Sarah SFA >>> Popsicle Sarah EAP >>> Popsicle Sarah >>> Scrog >>> null >>> Scrog >>> Popsicle Sarah Popsicle Sarah >>> SFA >>> Scrog >>> Popsicle Sarah Holls >>> Scrog Mike D >>> Scrog jhammett >>> Popsicle Sarah >>> Scrog Fawnmart >>> Scrog Scrog >>> Popsicle Sarah
Post by popsicle sarah on Aug 11, 2011 11:21:18 GMT -5
Well fuck me. I don't want to be the deciding vote to kill myself off. That would be a pretty shitty thing to do to the townspeople if it turns out Scrog is Mafia. I'm sorry guys. I'm not having a good day, week, or month. I'm gonna suck it up. I committed to play... so until I'm put outta my misery...
but more because of how a few other people are voting.
Care to be more specific?
EAP's whole "Throwing caution to the wind" bit seems a little contrived. She voted for Scrog, nulled her vote, then voted for scrog again. Then, she changed her mind after reading your comment.
I personally think EAP is guilty, and trying to form an early allience. Scrog may be guilty, EAP seems to be saving him a little, but my gut says he is a townie. I don't really have a reason to suspect sarah currently, my vote against her was more of an experiment than anything.
It will be on interesting to see who the mafia kills next.
um. who would i be trying to make an alliance with? scrog who i already called scary and a bully?
you guys really are barking up the wrong path. so if i change my vote back to sarah would i be trying to make an alliance with you jhamm??
i dont know what i have to do to show you guys that i am confused and have no idea who is who. why would i be changing my vote all these times if i was mafia and just wanted to kill someone.
Also, just for the record, Scrog, fawnmart, and EAP have been the 'loudest' players in this game, Mike D and Holls have been the quietest.
Spent the day shutting up and reading whenever i could make time. As someone else (maybe sfa?) eluded there appear to be two voting paths. Making a big assumption here , but assuming that three mafia are left (noage and Jack having been townies). And assuming 2 are on one voting track and one is on the other. First time i saw this - went uh-oh.. did i walk into this and align with the more heavily weighted mafia side? Or not? Looking at this.. i believe two if not all three of the loudest players are townies. If noage was a townie this leads me to Sarah being a townie too. (I'm including the inspector role in references to being a townie.)
I hope some of you first-timers are having a good game. I'd hate for you to be one-and-done before I get to have a Mafia throwdown with you.
In the meantime, I haven't even gotten to read this game. I hope it's a good one, because I'm going to need to take a crash course on this game in a week. It better not suck.
I hope some of you first-timers are having a good game. I'd hate for you to be one-and-done before I get to have a Mafia throwdown with you.
In the meantime, I haven't even gotten to read this game. I hope it's a good one, because I'm going to need to take a crash course on this game in a week. It better not suck.
EAP, it took you 4 minutes to realize your switching your vote back to Popsicle Sarah was not needed. why did you switch your vote to me and then quickly counter with,
actually F you guys, i'm sticking with my popsicle sarah vote. contrived my ass. CAUTION TO THE WIND JHAMM CAUTION TO THE WIND BUDDY EAP>>>>popsicle sarah.
Honestly, you seem like a kid in the candy store. You are Mafia and you got past the first round, and now someone is calling you out as Mafia, and you do not know what to do about it. To me every move you make, makes you look Mafia. To me, I could be wrong, you are making Popsicle Sarah into the Mafia with you. Like I said before, If you are Mafia, than I think Popsicle Sarah is right there with you.
Jham, I am disappointed you switched to me after Popsicle Sarah's rant and voting for herself. I do not think EAP is trying to make an alliance with me, I think I have been pretty vocal in her being Mafia. Friendship and favors should not be trusted in Mafia. It is fucking Mafia! Jham what is your "gut" telling you? If you think I am suspicious and Mafia, then vote for me, but if your are switching your vote because of a popsicle at brunch(and they were excellent ;D), then Mafia will win this game, again. Outside events should not influence what happens in Mafia.
um. who would i be trying to make an alliance with? scrog who i already called scary and a bully?
you guys really are barking up the wrong path. so if i change my vote back to sarah would i be trying to make an alliance with you jhamm??
i dont know what i have to do to show you guys that i am confused and have no idea who is who. why would i be changing my vote all these times if i was mafia and just wanted to kill someone.
EAP>>>popsicle>>>scrog>>>popsicle>>>scrog
I was actually thinking you were trying to buddy up with SFA. And it is completely possible that I am wrong, completely possible. I am just playing the way my gut is telling me to.
actually F you guys, i'm sticking with my popsicle sarah vote. contrived my ass.
CAUTION TO THE WIND JHAMM CAUTION TO THE WIND BUDDY
EAP>>>>popsicle sarah.
Jezz Whizz, I didn't mean for you to take it so personal. When all this is over, can we hug and still be friends? Or will I have to add your name to the 'If I see [these people] walking toward me at brunch next year, carrying an object that could be used as a melee weapon, I should definitely run.'?!
EAP, it took you 4 minutes to realize your switching your vote back to Popsicle Sarah was not needed. why did you switch your vote to me and then quickly counter with,
actually F you guys, i'm sticking with my popsicle sarah vote. contrived my ass. CAUTION TO THE WIND JHAMM CAUTION TO THE WIND BUDDY EAP>>>>popsicle sarah.
Honestly, you seem like a kid in the candy store. You are Mafia and you got past the first round, and now someone is calling you out as Mafia, and you do not know what to do about it. To me every move you make, makes you look Mafia. To me, I could be wrong, you are making Popsicle Sarah into the Mafia with you. Like I said before, If you are Mafia, than I think Popsicle Sarah is right there with you.
Jham, I am disappointed you switched to me after Popsicle Sarah's rant and voting for herself. I do not think EAP is trying to make an alliance with me, I think I have been pretty vocal in her being Mafia. Friendship and favors should not be trusted in Mafia. It is quacking Mafia! Jham what is your "gut" telling you? If you think I am suspicious and Mafia, then vote for me, but if your are switching your vote because of a popsicle at brunch(and they were excellent ;D), then Mafia will win this game, again. Outside events should not influence what happens in Mafia.
Actually the popsicle at brunch was just a bit of a joke. My gut tells me that EAP is most likely mafia, and that you are most likely a townie. And, if anything, Sarah's rant and voting for herself, makes it look more like she isn't working with partners. She did all that, and nobody said or did anything. I just don't feel like the mafia would so blatantly sacrifice one of their own in the day, especially this early on.
...will I have to add your name to the 'If I see [these people] walking toward me at brunch next year, carrying an object that could be used as a melee weapon, I should definitely run.'?!
Um, just outta curiosity...how many people you got on that list of yours anyway???
All this talk of people on lists & melee weapons... kinda seems like something the Mafia would be into... just sayin'
um. who would i be trying to make an alliance with? scrog who i already called scary and a bully?
you guys really are barking up the wrong path. so if i change my vote back to sarah would i be trying to make an alliance with you jhamm??
i dont know what i have to do to show you guys that i am confused and have no idea who is who. why would i be changing my vote all these times if i was mafia and just wanted to kill someone.
EAP>>>popsicle>>>scrog>>>popsicle>>>scrog
I was actually thinking you were trying to buddy up with SFA. And it is completely possible that I am wrong, completely possible. I am just playing the way my gut is telling me to.
Well, I was a little suspicious of EAP in the first round just because she was being a little quieter then she usual is but then I remembered that I was quite too and the reason was the first round was a snooze fest. Her switching does make me raise an eyebrow but I'm not all the sudden going to think she is innocent and on my side. The last time I did that I put my faith in quacker and LLL. LLL burned me so I think we all should know it's best not to trust anyone completely.
Having said that... Why in the world would she switch if she WAS Mafia, other then to save Scrog? If you look over the round I think it's safe to assume they aren't working together. If they are it's pretty risky behavior for both of them, so I think that line of thinking is probable incorrect.
I'm starting to wish I hadn't made that deal with Holls.
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EAP, it took you 4 minutes to realize your switching your vote back to Popsicle Sarah was not needed. why did you switch your vote to me and then quickly counter with,
Honestly, you seem like a kid in the candy store. You are Mafia and you got past the first round, and now someone is calling you out as Mafia, and you do not know what to do about it. To me every move you make, makes you look Mafia. To me, I could be wrong, you are making Popsicle Sarah into the Mafia with you. Like I said before, If you are Mafia, than I think Popsicle Sarah is right there with you.
Jham, I am disappointed you switched to me after Popsicle Sarah's rant and voting for herself. I do not think EAP is trying to make an alliance with me, I think I have been pretty vocal in her being Mafia. Friendship and favors should not be trusted in Mafia. It is quacking Mafia! Jham what is your "gut" telling you? If you think I am suspicious and Mafia, then vote for me, but if your are switching your vote because of a popsicle at brunch(and they were excellent ;D), then Mafia will win this game, again. Outside events should not influence what happens in Mafia.
Actually the popsicle at brunch was just a bit of a joke. My gut tells me that EAP is most likely mafia, and that you are most likely a townie. And, if anything, Sarah's rant and voting for herself, makes it look more like she isn't working with partners. She did all that, and nobody said or did anything. I just don't feel like the mafia would so blatantly sacrifice one of their own in the day, especially this early on.
Fair enough, but remember when we were Mafia and I was ready to vote you off on day one. I thought you had been tagged as Mafia and I was trying to distance myself from you. If I am right and they are both Mafia, Popsicle Sarah did a great job with that rant. Do you see no connection between EAP and Popsicle? If not then Mike D is next on my list, he is tied with Holls and FM as being other Mafia on my list.
I was actually thinking you were trying to buddy up with SFA. And it is completely possible that I am wrong, completely possible. I am just playing the way my gut is telling me to.
Well, I was a little suspicious of EAP in the first round just because she was being a little quieter then she usual is but then I remembered that I was quite too and the reason was the first round was a snooze fest. Her switching does make me raise an eyebrow but I'm not all the sudden going to think she is innocent and on my side. The last time I did that I put my faith in quacker and LLL. LLL burned me so I think we all should know it's best not to trust anyone completely.
Having said that... Why in the world would she switch if she WAS Mafia, other then to save Scrog? If you look over the round I think it's safe to assume they aren't working together. If they are it's pretty risky behavior for both of them, so I think that line of thinking is probable incorrect.
I'm starting to wish I hadn't made that deal with Holls.
Did EAP switch her vote as a way to distance herself some from Popsicle Sarah, rather than a vote to "Save Scrog"?
I'm starting to wish I hadn't made that deal with Holls.
Hmm...you mean the deal where you suggested I change my vote - without specifying who I should change it to - only to find that I'd voted for somebody other than who you had in mind? Doesn't that mean your proposed deal didn't actually happen? You didn't specify; I was clueless. No biggie...certainly no need for regrets. Besides, you can always change your vote again, right? So what's the prob?
I'm voting with the majority since I really don't know any better. It's pretty easy & stress-free that way. Whatevs...
Spent the day shutting up and reading whenever i could make time. As someone else (maybe sfa?) eluded there appear to be two voting paths. Making a big assumption here , but assuming that three mafia are left (noage and Jack having been townies). And assuming 2 are on one voting track and one is on the other. First time i saw this - went uh-oh.. did i walk into this and align with the more heavily weighted mafia side? Or not? Looking at this.. i believe two if not all three of the loudest players are townies. If noage was a townie this leads me to Sarah being a townie too. (I'm including the inspector role in references to being a townie.)
If noage was Mafia, back to page 1 I go.
How does noage being a townie make Sarah a townie? I mean sure, they both could be but what is the correlation you're seeing? If you're just going off her voting for LLL then you're forgetting she voted after Jack, so her vote really didn't effect the outcome of the run-off.
This line of thinking seems to be implying that either Holls or I are the guilty party voting for LLL in the first round because you are clearly innocent.
Is this what you are seeing or am I reading you wrong?
I'm starting to wish I hadn't made that deal with Holls.
Hmm...you mean the deal where you suggested I change my vote - without specifying who I should change it to - only to find that I'd voted for somebody other than who you had in mind? Doesn't that mean your proposed deal didn't actually happen? You didn't specify; I was clueless. No biggie...certainly no need for regrets. Besides, you can always change your vote again, right? So what's the prob?
I'm voting with the majority since I really don't know any better. It's pretty easy & stress-free that way. Whatevs...
Well, I honestly didn't care who you put in the runoff. Part of asking you to do it was to see who you would choose. The only problem I had with you voting for Scrog was that it didn't accomplish the goal of expanded the runoff. It put him in danger of being voted off and in that had been the case we wouldn't have gotten anything helpful out of the round.
But yeah, it happened. You got out of the runoff and the game was effected. That's what I regret. I probable should have let things play out and not gotten involved.
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How does noage being a townie make Sarah a townie? I mean sure, they both could be but what is the correlation you're seeing? If you're just going off her voting for LLL then you're forgetting she voted after Jack, so her vote really didn't effect the outcome of the run-off.
This line of thinking seems to be implying that either Holls or I are the guilty party voting for LLL in the first round because you are clearly innocent.
Is this what you are seeing or am I reading you wrong?
I figure my lifeline is short if nothing else just for talking too much and annoying probably everyone. In my work world I listen at lengths end, and if I'm not hearing anything of meaning, it's interview time until I understand the end goal, or they finally start talking. Then its listen time again. That's clearly followed me to Mafia. If i play again I will work on that. Round 1 was painfully full of not much.
I read a para this morning that made me go hmm? ( I will go find it), and went back and looked at votes. It looked to me that Sarah, Mike, Holls, EAP, and myself were in the LL camp and JHAM, LLL, SAF, and Scrog were in the no age camp. Looked like that partition to some extent has continued into round 2.
There has been more than one suggestion that the mafia are some combination of camp 1.. Sarah, Mike, Holls, EAP, and myself. I know my role is townie, looked at the alignment on my part and said Oh SH!. I've been a little suspicious of Mike and Holls.. too quiet. (But that alone does not say anything. I see that now.) Immediately thought maybe i should switch votes to show I'm not part of this. I'm thinking EAP may have felt this way. Though todays outbursts were surprising.
Then i looked at which side of the fence has influenced the votes more. Not who's the most vocal, who's had the most influence. I see that as being camp 2.. JHAM, LLL, SFA, and Scrog.
It would seem very risky for all three mafia members to be on the same side of the voting line. I think camp 2 has been the most influential, sarah is being voted off (at the time).
I hear your point of her not voting in round 1. I accept today could have been a huge ploy but i dont think so. At some point you have to make some decisions on what you think is truth and live or die with the results. I dont think there are three mafia in camp 1.
Oddly i can't come to a decision on who is Mafia. So i'm taking the who do I believe is a townie approach. I believe Noage, Jack, and Sarah are/were townies, and probably EAP. That means i think 3 mafia are alive and there are six players to figure out who is who.
To specifically answer your question, No i was not implying you or holls. See above. But I have not yet been bale to move either of you into the towns person yet.
All that said - doesn't matter what i say. First game, probably utterly and completely wrong. I'll post my shame face picture for ya'll without saying a word after the game is over if i turn out to be full of SH* thoughts.
I read a para this morning that made me go hmm? ( I will go find it), and went back and looked at votes. It looked to me that Sarah, Mike, Holls, EAP, and myself were in the LL camp and JHAM, LLL, SAF, and Scrog were in the no age camp. Looked like that partition to some extent has continued into round 2.
You got your camps a little mixed up in the first round. So you ARE basically saying that Holls or I are mafia. Because you believe Sarah isn't. So being a townsperson, I have to say you are putting me on a short list. Plus, EAP, Mike D and Jham are more in a gray area of your camp thoughts.
But thanks for putting me in the most influential group. It''ll be more convenient for the Mafia to pick us off now.
SFA >>> LLL noage >>> LLL Voted off by townspeople. Fawnmart >>> LLL Holls >>> LLL Popsicle Sarah >>> LLL
Mike D >>> noage LLL >>> noage Scrog >>> noage jhammett >>> noage EAP >>> noage Cap'n Jack >>> noage Killed by mafia.
Also, you are doing fine at the game! Give yourself some credit.
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I read a para this morning that made me go hmm? ( I will go find it), and went back and looked at votes. It looked to me that Sarah, Mike, Holls, EAP, and myself were in the LL camp and JHAM, LLL, SAF, and Scrog were in the no age camp. Looked like that partition to some extent has continued into round 2.
You got your camps a little mixed up in the first round. So you ARE basically saying that Holls or I are mafia. Because you believe Sarah isn't. So being a townsperson, I have to say you are putting me on a short list. Plus, EAP, Mike D and Jham are more in a gray area of your camp thoughts.
But thanks for putting me in the most influential group. It''ll be more convenient for the Mafia to pick us off now.
SFA >>> LLL noage >>> LLL Voted off by townspeople. Fawnmart >>> LLL Holls >>> LLL Popsicle Sarah >>> LLL
Mike D >>> noage LLL >>> noage Scrog >>> noage jhammett >>> noage EAP >>> noage Cap'n Jack >>> noage Killed by mafia.
Also, you are doing fine at the game! Give yourself some credit.
QUACK! I get what you are saying now about you and Holls. Back to page 1-7 to see why i moved mike across the line. This is kinda why i voice stuff. (Which apparently is not a good thing). Thanks for pointing that out.
But i dont see how my voicing an opinion on my thoughts about who's a townie makes it any easier for the mafia to pick us off. Um.. they know who the townsfolk are from the get go.. ??
If this is not the right time someone explain it after the game please. How is it any different from others saying i think x, y, and z are mafia? Those statements are made to influence someone being voted off. I'm clearly missing something hear. Going to go find a rock to climb under and be quiet now.
You got your camps a little mixed up in the first round. So you ARE basically saying that Holls or I are mafia. Because you believe Sarah isn't. So being a townsperson, I have to say you are putting me on a short list. Plus, EAP, Mike D and Jham are more in a gray area of your camp thoughts.
Last comment before the duct tape over the mouth... No, i did not say that. Looked at round one And round two as of this morning. I said based on round one and round 2 as of this am had decided in my mind 5 people (including myself) were townies. And i had to make assumptions to get there. Dont know about the rest but clearly since I am not saying i think the remaining 6 are townies - I have suspicions at some level of all.
Think i obviously have a death wish too. I'll get to go down in Mafia history for being the first townie willingly voted out by the other townies for talking too much. ;D
I'll get to go down in Mafia history for being the first townie willingly voted out by the other townies for talking too much. ;D
Nah, I'm a townie too and I'm not voting for you. (Although the Mafia may be shopping around for 'Buy 1 - Get 1 Free' deals on cement shoes for the both of us! So be it...to quote The Decemberists: "We both go down together.")
;D