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"^ Based on WHAT example? I know, have dated, and dearly love MANY Alpha males who are outwardly sweet. Being an Alpha doesn't mean a guy has to be a cold, heartless schmuck; it means they have a more assertive nature. A *TRUE MAN* is kind, regardless of whether society has labeled him an Alpha or Beta male. A *TRUE MAN* shows his true colors to everyone. If he doesn't, then he's a coward. And chicks don't dig cowards."
You said it well! Just because a guy is confident in himself and is assertive doesn't make him a d-bag. I think there is definitely a fine line where it could easily be crossed but the *true man* like you said is kind regardless.
I knocked out one of my best friends Sunday over a girl. That's a good start I guess. Nearly lost my job because of it, still am not clear on the exact repercussions but I think I'm alright. Anyways one of my good friends thought it would be a grand idea to interrupt me kissing a girl by taking my arm off of her an putting his own around her. It was not. I tried very hard to not let it escalate to the level it did but it was inevitable due to his attitude. Long story short I badly hurt a good friend, who unfortunately probably deserved what he got, and am now unsure of how to go forward with either relationship. I don't know what's going on in my life. I can't wait for Bonnaroo.
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Only since it was requested an apparently this sparked a bit of a debate. I'll start off by saying I do not go out looking for fights, especially over women. The whole caveman strategy doesn't see like a good one to me. Ill also say that I am more closely affiliated with being the "nice guy" than anything else. I've had my heart broken a few times seemingly from being "that guy" who is too nice. That being said, there is a whole other side to my personality that doesn't allow me to take shit from anyone, and I stand up for what I believe is right at all costs. Me hitting my friend was much more attributed to being disrespected beyond what is a reasonable level than it was needing to prove myself over a girl or whatever. My friend and I have a history of being habitual button pushers, including to each other but it never really gets as far as it did that night. As far as how long I have known the girl, not long. He's actually known her longer and has a thing for her which is why any of this started. I knew how he felt but whatever the fuck ever, I'm looking for girls for me not all my friends. That's just the way it is. I know no ones ever backed off a girl I like for me, and it would be selfish of me to expect that. You can't help who you're attracted to and you certainly can't control who's attracted to you. When someone I'm attracted to shows interest in me I tend to capitalize on the opportunity, I think I'd be fool not to. The fight was much less about the girl than it was about establishing a certain level of respect. You can't do that to me, you will get hit. The whole violence is not the answer thing is bullshit when it comes to situations like this. Certain behaviors deserve certain punishments, brushing shit like blatant disrespect (I said to him "dude, you're being an asshole...you're being disrespectful" and his response was " yeah I know I am") off your shoulder will only lead to further and further disrespectful action. Some things need to nipped in the bud. Like I said it wasn't all about getting the girl. I don't know her that we'll and that night is the first time we actually spent the day together, but based on the results we have some sort of a connection. Your friends should be happy for you, not trying to impede. Yes, my friends a dickhole but he was blackout drunk which I didn't realize at the time. He rarely gets that wasted, I think it had a lot to do with seeing me hanging out with her. He did apologize for instigating the whole situation even though I'm not sure how much he remembers of the night. As far as the work thing, I work at a brewpub (Haverhill Brewery check us out, we have amazing German beers) and was hanging out there that night. The incident happened in the parking lot out back and there were several witnesses. I am not losing my job but probably won't be drinking there for a while. Anyways the girl is gorgeous and this didn't hurt my chances with her, might even see her tonight if im lucky. I'll keep you updated, but I'll probably end up fucking it up eventually. The whole relationship thing is an enigma to me and this one started off a bit dramatically, but well see how it goes...
Holls. I know you did not expect me to not answer this post. So here goes.
I realize that what I have to say is not what you believe to be true. We have different truths around this subject, obviously. I know what my experience is, and my knowlege is - and you have your opinions on what you think is true.
I can say with COMPLETE CONFIDENCE that I know how women think a lot more than most. A LOT. There are reasons for this.
When addressing me, Holls, I request that you do a few things.
1) refrain from the insults. It makes you look bad. It doesn't affect me. It is not helpful, positive or mature.
2) do not put words into my mouth. I say what I say for a reason. Twisting what I say around to something that it is not, is also not helpful, positive or mature.
3)do not make assumptions. You may THINK you know something about me, or what I meant in a certain post but your rant proved that to be incorrect. Asking for clarification and opeining up conversation works much better.
Nice guys finish in a napkin. Awesome guys finish on her (fill in the blank).
^ DUDE: W. T. F. ? Is this your pathetic attempt at humor with a thinly veiled reference to masturbation wherein you imply that masturbation is an act reserved only for men who aren't successful manwhores?
Since when does awesome = successful manwhore? Don’t be silly. However, if faced with a decision between a sweet, sappy boy and a fun, assertive, smart, outgoing MAN… Guess who gets the girl most often? That’s right.
The sweet/nice guy just is not generally attractive to women. Even though they would probably make a better boyfriend or husband, the sweet boy just does not get women's juices flowing.
You are SOOOOOO WRONG here! Guys can be sweet and not effeminate/emasculated, as you seem to suggest. For the record (as as a woman who is willing to enlighten you to our feminine thought processes - at no charge, BTW, so you should be a lot less misogynistic and a helluva lot more grateful for this insight), WOMEN ARE ATTRACTED TO AN OVERALL PACKAGE, not just a guy who thinks with his package. How many times do we women have to reiterate this to Neanderthal males?
I am not chauvanistic, misogynistic or disrespectful to women. And I am not a Neanderthal. Name calling is so 8th grade.
Outside of that, you misunderstand, and misinterpret what I say. The fundamental thing we disagree with are your OPINION of what I think an Alpha is, and what I know an Alpha to be.
The truth is, women are more attracted to Alpha men. It’s a fact. You can argue until you are blue in the face, but you will still be wrong. A description of an Alpha man does not include his success with women. Actually, disrespect towards women makes a man LESS alpha and not more. It is a sign of insecurity.
Unfortunately, there are TONS of great guys out there that have a hard time getting in relationships. Its women’s fault. These kind hearted, gentlemen lack confidence with women because women reject them so readily, in an attempt to attract the Alpha. It is what it is. Truth.
YES, WE CAN BE JUST AS SHALLOW AS MEN AT TIMES! Lord knows I can appreciate well-defined delts and glutes on a guy. But that's not the #1 thing that attracts me, and it's sure as hell not the thing that keeps me attracted. Here's my motto (take it for what it's worth; to you, that's probably not much): IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOUR BODY TURNS ME ON IF YOUR BRAIN CAN'T.
I completely agree. The ‘why’ might not sit well with you, but here goes:
Women and men are attracted to different things. Women are attracted to a man who makes them feel safe. A man who makes them feel loved. A man who makes them feel comfortable. A man who makes them laugh. A man who leads. A man who has a backbone. A man who can provide for her, their children, and protect the family in all aspects. Think of where our hardwiring comes from. Cavemen would have to be able to do this. Don’t act like our instincts do not come from our forefathers. They do. Yes we are thinking creatures, but we are also INSTINCTIVE ANIMALS. Men are a LOT more superficial than women when it comes to initial attraction. Why? Simple. Men do not need protection. They are looking to replicate, and have their genes live on. So, when looking at a potential mate, a math equation goes through our head subconsciously and immediately determines if this woman will be able to bear our children and feed them. Think 36-24-36. Are their features attractive (will my kids be attractive and continue to replicate)? Is she healthy? (shiny hair, blush cheeks and lips, nice skin). That is what attracts men INITIALLY. Then, if they are similar, and non-annoying, and easy to get along with – we have a winner!
The physical comes first with men. He knows in 10 seconds if he wants to hook up with her. It takes about 10 minutes for a woman to determine if she wants to hook up with him, because she needs to get a feel for what kind of MAN this guy is.
So, I agree with you. If a man can not turn a woman on with his personality and intelligence, she won’t ever want to be with him. Period.
You wanna know what really gets chicks' "juices flowing"? Honesty. Integrity. Communication. Trust. When those are the foundation upon which you add Passion and Romance (which, FWIW, are two separate things), then you have the makings of an intense relationship. Washboard abs don't build trust. If your passion is based on buns of steel, then passion is what you will get. You get what you give; it's that simple.
Again with the Alpha = hardbody comments. Im not sure you really understand what I am trying to portray here. Alphas are not mean. They are not disrespectful to women. They are not d-bags. That is all BETA.
Being Alpha does not mean you are physically attractive either. Although, attractive men have an easier time becoming his group’s alpha, it is not always the case. The witch Doctor of the tribe was generally overweight and scary looking. Yet he had plenty of women to breed with, because he had social pull. Seth Rogan is not traditionally good looking AT ALL but I know TONS of women who absolutely want to jump that man’s bones.
You're the male equivalent of some of my sorority sisters who slept their way through every fraternity on campus, then complained that they never had a boyfriend. Well, DUH! If you sell yourself as a cheap item, then nobody wants to buy it because people don't want to buy junk!
Don’t pretend like you know me. You don’t. You have no idea who I sleep with and who I don’t. You do not know why I am single. You are making some terrible assumptions here and mixing that with some childish insults. You are better than that, Holls. I date one woman at a time, and am single because I refuse to settle for less than everything that I deserve. I would rather be happy and single than have a girlfriend just to have one. I could have an AMAZING girlfriend RIGHT NOW if that was the case. Painting me to be some playboy who has no respect for women because I know that women like Alpha men is just – well its hard to finish that sentence without being insulting – wrong.
^ Based on WHAT example? I know, have dated, and dearly love MANY Alpha males who are outwardly sweet. Being an Alpha doesn't mean a guy has to be a cold, heartless schmuck; it means they have a more assertive nature. A *TRUE MAN* is kind, regardless of whether society has labeled him an Alpha or Beta male. A *TRUE MAN* shows his true colors to everyone. If he doesn't, then he's a coward. And chicks don't dig cowards.
Well seeing as you ignored the first part of that thought, and obviously left it out (intentionally?) Let me spell this out for you so you can understand. YOUR OPINION OF WHAT YOU THINK I BELIEVE TO BE AN ALPHA IS FALLLLLLLSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEE.
OF COURSE Alpha does not = cold, heartless schmuck. Is that even necessary to state? Yes, Alphas have a more assertive nature. Alphas ARE kind. Yes. Being kind, and being sappy in public are 2 completely different things. Stop twisting things around, Holls. UGH.
And people in general can’t NOT show their true colors (eventually). Its not a matter of being a coward. There is a time and a place that is appropriate for a man to show his sweet, soft side to a woman. It is better for both to show his venerability in a private place, and not in public. She will feel more special, and will respect him more for it. Also, others won’t look down on him for it. Not that HE cares, but lowering your social status within your group for no reason, when you could accomplish the same thing more effectively and powerfully in private is pointless.
There ARE times and places where showing your sweet side in public is a good thing. But day in and day out being all sappy and sweet everywhere you go – meh, it’s a turn off to women. It just is.
WHOA! When did you grow a uterus and become a woman? Trust me, pal, no we don't. Not ALL women prefer Alphas. I actually prefer a Beta male with a brain & a heart, not an Alpha with a hard body and a cocky attitude. And from personal experience, I can tell you that Beta males make far better lovers because they use their brain instead of their schlong to woo women. The results are legendary: without Beta males, the world would never have the music of Bach, Beethoven and Mozart nor the art of daVinci and Michelangelo nor the poetry of Lord Byron or Shakespeare or any of the other artistic masterpieces that cause cultured women to go weak in the knees. So save your canned, inauthentic generalizations about women because you are as wrong as you are clueless.
There are so many things wrong with this part, it is hard to pick a place to start. First of all, I said at the bottom of the post GENERALLY. I NEVER said ALL. EVER. And it is the truth. Chicks DO dig the Alpha.
Again, Alpha does not = hard body, cocky, heartless or brainless. Sheesh.
That list of artists consists of introverted Alphas. Alpha does also not = extroverted. And don’t bust out with VanGough now, either. He was a nutcase.
I assure you, sweetie, I am neither wrong, nor am I clueless. You have no idea how extensively I have studied male-female psychology and relationship psychology. Not only books, but extensive…lets call it “field resarch”.
I have a DEEP UNDERSTANDING of how women think. Do I know it all? NO. Am I an expert? I wouldn’t go that far. Do I know what the hell I am talking about here, due to all of my experience, coupled with specific study on the matter? Abso-friggin-lutely.
QUITE ACCURATE? What have you been smoking? Surely you jest! And yes, there will be disagreement, simply because YOU.ARE.WRONG. and so full of yourself it disgusts me and saddens me at the same time.
Look man, you *MIGHT* be a decent guy in real life. You *MIGHT* be an awesome, kind-hearted, generous, giving, warm and caring, funny and amiable gentleman. If that's the case, then GREAT! The world needs more men with those qualities! But based on just about everyquackingcomment you've ever made on this board, you sound like a complete jackasss who is only concerned with getting his rocks off!!! Your vibe suggests that you're an immoral horndog who doesn't respect women. Your posts paint you as a chauvinistic putz who will say or do anything to get a woman in bed - and you're OK with them being there because you sure as hell won't let them in your heart, since emotional vulnerability is a sign of weakness, and showing any sign of weakness is for losers, right? I keep trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, but every day you say something else that makes me want to give up hope of ever finding a shred of decency in you.
DUDE, IF THAT'S NOT WHO YOU REALLY ARE, THEN PLEASE CONSIDER CHANGING YOUR SALES PITCH!!! Why? Because you're coming off as the used car salesman of sex - the kind that wears too much cheap drugstore cologne and polyester fabric. And maybe a bad combover. It's not attractive. And posing as anything besides who you really are lacks authenticity and maturity. Don't be that guy!
::: shakes head and walks off :::
That last part was just a barrage of insults and I just won’t respond to it, other than a couple of points: - I have no sales pitch. I only have knowledge on the subject we are speaking about. If you disagree, fine. Back it up with something concrete. You have failed to do so in your post, other than a small amount of personal belief and misguided opinions. - I am who I am. I am not posing as anything else. So I attract a lot of women, and date a lot. How does that make me a piece of crap, as you are attempting to paint me? I am actively looking for the right woman to spend the rest of my life with. I am sick of circular dating and the game playing. I don’t play games. A lot of people (men and women) DO.
Do not pretend to know about who I am based on some of my posts here. You have no idea of my life, what I have been through and what kind of person I am.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Mar 28, 2012 15:43:58 GMT -5
RE: CNDYFLPPDRND
The original story makes your friend out to be a weenie. With more information it seems like two guys who were out drinking fighting over a girl (even though I know you made it clear it was more about respect in your eyes than the girl).
Sounds like your friend has liked this girl longer than you so you gotta kinda see where he's coming from (even if his actions were stupid). Yea, that doesn't mean you HAVE to back off this chick but I've been in situations where I didn't go for a girl because I knew a good friend really liked her more/first.
Hopefully you don't lose your job over it. That would suck. Good to see your friend apologized as well.
When addressing me, Holls, I request that you do a few things.
1) refrain from the insults. It makes you look bad. It doesn't affect me. It is not helpful, positive or mature.
I agree with this actually and was going to make a post commending Surfbum for not responding negatively/harshly towards others. He said some things that many people really disagree with but he's handled the responses maturely and hasn't resorted to personal insults. Let's keep it civil here. We can disagree but I don't think we should start analyzing each others personal lives just based on the information we post about on here.
Post by candyflippedaround on Mar 28, 2012 15:53:30 GMT -5
Little more background info... I was with the girl before he showed up, he actually texted me to see what I was up to and I invited him to come hang out with us. Had no idea things would get that far with her, never mind with him. I had stopped drinking before any of this occurred. I also wasn't trying to rub any of this in his face. We went outside to smoke and after awhile he came out looking for us. He doesn't smoke, he had o reason to go out there other than to interrupt whatever was going on between me and her.
Also surf you kind of come off as a tool who is afraid to fight. Just my opinion though... After reading ITMs last post I feel bad about saying that but I won't delete it. Your posts are convoluted and confusing, you at one point say nice guys dont get the girls and then later go into how you wouldn't have fought, just thrown out some insults and walked away. To me that says you talk shit but avoid confrontation. You can't have it both ways. If you wanna ru. Your mouth and think its funny you better be ready to get hit. Jokes don't usually go over well in those types of situations.
Little more background info... I was with the girl before he showed up, he actually texted me to see what I was up to and I invited him to come hang out with us. Had no idea things would get that far with her, never mind with him. I had stopped drinking before any of this occurred. I also wasn't trying to rub any of this in his face. We went outside to smoke and after awhile he came out looking for us. He doesn't smoke, he had o reason to go out there other than to interrupt whatever was going on between me and her.
Also surf you kind of come off as a tool who is afraid to fight. Just my opinion though...
I appreciate your opinion. It is not the case though. I actually spent fair amount of time in Lynn where I learned to fight. My sister went to Haverhill High (she is 26, so if you went there too, you may even know her).
I can and will handle myself WELL when it comes to being forced to fight. I personaly prefer to use other ways to deal with the situation. But I will NOT EVER compromise myself or be disrespected without handling the situation. I just look for ways to maintain my stature without it resorting to violence.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Mar 28, 2012 16:02:14 GMT -5
Thanks for expanding on your opinion Candy I was going to quote it and say "can we try to avoid things like this". Having a more detailed explanation about WHY you're perceiving him a certain way helps more than just telling him how he seems.
Once again lets try to keep this civil and act like adults. This is the "Whine about relationships" thread not the "Whine about Surfbum" thread lol. Disagree if you want but lets keep the insults and assumptions about real life to a minimum if possible.
Post by candyflippedaround on Mar 28, 2012 16:11:35 GMT -5
I hear you dude. I also don't instantly resort to fighting. My exact words before that whole thing started was "I don't want to do this man" I didn't mean to attack you personally, I just took the low road in disagreeing with what you had to say and ITM made me feel foolish instantly. I guess I just kinda felt attacked by you saying I handled the situation wrong. I didn't go into a lot of detail about it but I tried at ever turn to avoid a fight. Some people are just looking for them and this was the case. If there was ever a fight scenario I don't want to be in it is this one but once and a while your hand gets forced, no pun intended.
Also I probably don't know your sister unless she hangs out downtown. I graduated a few years after her and actually didn't go to HHs
I didn't mean to attack you personally, I just took the low road in disagreeing with what you had to say and ITM made me feel foolish instantly. I guess I just kinda felt attacked by you saying I handled the situation wrong.
Wasn't too bad. You didn't say he definitely was that. Just how you perceived him based on some posts. Again though, thanks for clarifying. Sometimes these internet discussions can get ugly fast.
I hear you dude. I also don't instantly resort to fighting. My exact words before that whole thing started was "I don't want to do this man" I didn't mean to attack you personally, I just took the low road in disagreeing with what you had to say and ITM made me feel foolish instantly. I guess I just kinda felt attacked by you saying I handled the situation wrong. I didn't go into a lot of detail about it but I tried at ever turn to avoid a fight. Some people are just looking for them and this was the case. If there was ever a fight scenario I don't want to be in it is this one but once and a while your hand gets forced, no pun intended.
Also I probably don't know your sister unless she hangs out downtown. I graduated a few years after her and actually didn't go to HHs
No offense taken. You stated an opinion, as an opinon - no need to feel foolish. And my sister moved to Florida after High School, then to Hawaii, so you probably don't know her.
To lighten the mood (somehow someone's celebrated death will do this) I found out Osama died while I was at a party. Was a real small party and the one girl who had drank too much and passed out on the couch early randomly popped up and exclaimed "They killed Osama bin Laden. I just got a text from CNN." Naturally I thought she was crazy and was still drunk and/or asleep but it was all true. CNN sent her a text that he was in fact dead. Carry on...
Man quack an Alpha and a Beta debate. I'm so sick and tired of that quacking argument. Are we wolves? No. Are we wild? Far from it.
The bottom line is that we are domesticated, social, cognitive human beings. We have emotions, logic, and intelligence that faaaaaaaar supercede something as simplistic and primitive as Alpha/Beta/Omega.
You are either a dickhead, or you are not (in general, not only towards the opposite sex, but towards society as well). You are either respectful towards the opposite sex, or you treat them like dirt (this works for both genders). There are varying degrees of respect.
You don't need to be arrogant, dickish, condescending, or disresepctful to lead, get ahead in life, or run a business.
To me when I think of someone who claims they are "Alpha", I think of someone who appears tough on the outside, but truly feels inferior on the inside. This is why they "puff up", and make a scene whenever they can, and be as vocal as possible. They need to be heard because on the inside they feel inferior.
Surf this is in no way an attack on you or your personality, I promise, really.
To add to the thread, I'm head over heels in love with my fiance. The only thing I can whine about is her 'indecisiveness", and even that is cute for the most part. I've treated her like gold for the last 2 years (the quintessential "nice guy"). I've never raised my voice, nor my hand (in all honesty I've never struck anyone in my entire life, guess that makes be Beta or Omega )
My advice: nice guys do NOT finish last, that is simply not true. Nice guys just need to find that nice girl, and let the dooshbags of the world attract the other dooshbags of the world.
Man quack an Alpha and a Beta debate. I'm so sick and tired of that quacking argument. Are we wolves? No. Are we wild? Far from it.
The bottom line is that we are domesticated, social, cognitive human beings. We have emotions, logic, and intelligence that faaaaaaaar supercede something as simplistic and primitive as Alpha/Beta/Omega.
You are either a dickhead, or you are not (in general, not only towards the opposite sex, but towards society as well). You are either respectful towards the opposite sex, or you treat them like dirt (this works for both genders). There are varying degrees of respect.
You don't need to be arrogant, dickish, condescending, or disresepctful to lead, get ahead in life, or run a business.
To me when I think of someone who claims they are "Alpha", I think of someone who appears tough on the outside, but truly feels inferior on the inside. This is why they "puff up", and make a scene whenever they can, and be as vocal as possible. They need to be heard because on the inside they feel inferior.
Surf this is in no way an attack on you or your personality, I promise, really.
As far as alpha v beta, we will have to agree to disagree here. I would like to think as idealistically as you, but based on what I have learned and witnessed I can not agree.
As far as what kind of person comes to mind when some think of Alpha, it is outrageously negative and that is a shame. These descriptions that some of you have come up with are just flat out absurd and inaccurate.
A true alpha is a positive, good natured, kind leader that can and will protect his family and friends.
Not a chiseled dooshbag with no respect for women.
My advice: nice guys do NOT finish last, that is simply not true. Nice guys just need to find that nice girl, and let the dooshbags of the world attract the other dooshbags of the world.
Post by A$AP Rosko on Mar 28, 2012 18:06:37 GMT -5
I'd rather be on equal footing with intelligent, creative, clever people whom I like and respect than be the leader of a pack of morons and douchebags, the kind of people I'd guess "alphas" like surfbum would hang around.
"Alphas" are only obsessed with being "an alpha" because it directly reminds them of their frathouse, the glory days of their sh*tty lives.
I'd rather be on equal footing with intelligent, creative, clever people whom I like and respect than be the leader of a pack of morons and douchebags, the kind of people I'd guess "alphas" like surfbum would hang around.
"Alphas" are only obsessed with being "an alpha" because it directly reminds them of their frathouse, the glory days of their sh*tty lives.
This is incredibly offensive and insulting.
You, also, have a warped view of what an Alpha is. But please refrain from stating your opinions as to who I am or who I associate with as fact.
Man quack an Alpha and a Beta debate. I'm so sick and tired of that quacking argument.
I think that everyone can agree with this. Can we get back to whining? I like the whining.
My relationship with Comcast is a love/hate relationship at it's finest. I HATE them, and I LOVE cable. And I can't break up with them because I think Dish is an asshole. WHAT DO I DOOOOO???
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I think that everyone can agree with this. Can we get back to whining? I like the whining.
My relationship with Comcast is a love/hate relationship at it's finest. I HATE them, and I LOVE cable. And I can't break up with them because I think Dish is an jerkstore. WHAT DO I DOOOOO???
I think that everyone can agree with this. Can we get back to whining? I like the whining.
My relationship with Comcast is a love/hate relationship at it's finest. I HATE them, and I LOVE cable. And I can't break up with them because I think Dish is an jerkstore. WHAT DO I DOOOOO???
Torrents? ;D
Sigh. I've been on the cable wagon for months. and supplementing with Netflix, Apple TV, and dvds. I want my cable back so I can watch Mad Men. and later this summer, True Blood. sooooo.... I can't leave this asshole. even though he absolutely takes advantage of me all the time. Such a jerk.
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I'd rather be on equal footing with intelligent, creative, clever people whom I like and respect than be the leader of a pack of morons and douchebags, the kind of people I'd guess "alphas" like surfbum would hang around.
"Alphas" are only obsessed with being "an alpha" because it directly reminds them of their frathouse, the glory days of their sh*tty lives.
This is incredibly offensive and insulting.
You, also, have a warped view of what an Alpha is. But please refrain from stating your opinions as to who I am or who I associate with as fact.
You are dead wrong, and way out of line.
But, why be a nice guy when that'll just result in me "finishing in a napkin"?
I was just insulting you so that I could show you who was in charge; I'm an alpha.
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