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You, also, have a warped view of what an Alpha is. But please refrain from stating your opinions as to who I am or who I associate with as fact.
You are dead wrong, and way out of line.
But, why be a nice guy when that'll just result in me "finishing in a napkin"?
I was just insulting you so that I could show you who was in charge; I'm an alpha.
Wow, man! Youre an alpha! congratulations!
Your parents must be super proud.
Teach me! I want to know what it is like to be one.
But if it means being rude, insulting, snidely condescending or anything like that, I can't say that I will follow suit.
I just do not have it in me to change who I am to impress other people, or to attempt to make someone look or feel stupid, unprovoked. I just won't stoop to that level of immaturity.
But, why be a nice guy when that'll just result in me "finishing in a napkin"?
I was just insulting you so that I could show you who was in charge; I'm an alpha.
Wow, man! Youre an alpha! congratulations!
Your parents must be super proud.
Teach me! I want to know what it is like to be one.
Ick. You're not even as good at "tooling" as you indicated you were in prior posts. This is a truly pathetic attempt at sarcasm.
But if it means being rude, insulting, snidely condescending or anything like that, I can't say that I will follow suit.
But you already have with posts that clearly (and rightfully) offended and insulted most of the female posters on this board. Where the hell is your self-awareness,
Teach me! I want to know what it is like to be one.
Ick. You're not even as good at "tooling" as you indicated you were in prior posts. This is a truly pathetic attempt at sarcasm.
But if it means being rude, insulting, snidely condescending or anything like that, I can't say that I will follow suit.
But you already have with posts that clearly (and rightfully) offended and insulted most of the female posters on this board. Where the hell is your self-awareness,
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
We're all a mess of paradoxes. Believing in things we know can't be true. We walk around carrying feelings too complicated and contradictory to express. But when it all becomes too big, and words aren't enough to help get it all out, there's always music.
So in this thread it's revealed Zapp/Duddits/Dave Maynar are currently in successful relationships?
Think that's the clincher for the nice guys vs alpha debate.
So Zapp/Duddits/Dave Maynar are not Alpha? I wouldn't really know. Actually, I bet the opposite is true.
Conversely, why do you (and others) think that Alphas are not nice?
THIS is the part of this whole conversation that is slightly frustrating to me. Alphas can be, and in most cases ARE nice people. Nice to others, and good, kind people. Being confident enough to be a nice person is a trait that Alphas posses naturally.
Azzholes are azzholes. Why are so many people confusing Alphas with azzholes? They are completely different, and not synoymous.
Conversely, why do you (and others) think that Alphas are not nice?
THIS is the part of this whole conversation that is slightly frustrating to me. Alphas can be, and in most cases ARE nice people. Nice to others, and good, kind people. Being confident enough to be a nice person is a trait that Alphas posses naturally.
Azzholes are azzholes. Why are so many people confusing Alphas with azzholes? They are completely different, and not synoymous.
Why do most of us assume that alphas aren't nice? Well, didn't you kind of imply that when you said that whole "nice guys finish in a napkin" thing? Which, btw, was so inappropriate. So yeah, I think most of the people responding have just been going off of your own implications.
Conversely, why do you (and others) think that Alphas are not nice?
THIS is the part of this whole conversation that is slightly frustrating to me. Alphas can be, and in most cases ARE nice people. Nice to others, and good, kind people. Being confident enough to be a nice person is a trait that Alphas posses naturally.
Azzholes are azzholes. Why are so many people confusing Alphas with azzholes? They are completely different, and not synoymous.
Why do most of us assume that alphas aren't nice? Well, didn't you kind of imply that when you said that whole "nice guys finish in a napkin" thing? Which, btw, was so inappropriate. So yeah, I think most of the people responding have just been going off of your own implications.
So one tongue-in-cheek joke supersedes pages upon pages of explanation. If one off color joke shuts someone's mind off to what was really being said, I can not help that. I make jokes.
The 'nice guy' in that JOKE is the meek, sweet, sappy guy who chases around the girl he likes, and makes her either 1) friendzone him or 2) run. This is quite common. And some of these 'nice guys' would make spectacular boyfriends or husbands. And it is unfortunate, but to many women, this meek, sweet, sappy behavior is not as attractive as confidence. Awesome guys...(the rest of the JOKE) was referring to awesome guys in general. Do you consider a misogynistic prick awesome? I certainly do not.
How many of you have seen the movie My Best Friend's Girl with Dane Cook and Jason Biggs?
That story is like the anti-fairy tale. And very true to life. Jason Biggs character would have made an INCREDIBLE husband to her. However, who was she attracted to sexually? Dane Cook (Tank). And who did she fall for? Tank AFTER he opened up to her and showed her his venerability. When he went from being attractive to awesome.
yeah, the movie was a little hokey, but there is a lot of truth in that movie. Jason Biggs character is just not as attractive to women as a hole as Dane Cook's character is.
That is all I was trying to portray.
I think it totally sucks that more women do not give nice guys more of a shot.
I also think that the women on this board are not like the majority of women out there. They are more intelligent, more cultured, smarter in general, nicer, kinder, less interested in what other people think of them, more self confident, more self assured, HEALTHIER, and prettier on the inside than a VAST majority of women in the world. I do not think that my breakdown of how women think applies to many of the women who post here.
But it DOES apply to 80% or more of women in the world.
If my opinion is different than yours, that is fine. But me having an opinion based on study and experience does not make me a fucking asshole. It just means that I have an opinion.
And the fact that I had the guts to display an opinion that I knew would not be popular does not make me a d*ck.
Sure, maybe my thoughts did not come out in a way or a language that was all sugar coated and dipped in honey. Maybe some of it was not clear and easily misunderstood - but all they are is theory and opinion based on MY experiences.
Theory and opinion. I am not pretending to be some kind of expert. As a matter of fact I said the opposite in one of my posts. I am no expert. I just know what I have experienced.
I apologize to almost everyone that I offended for ruffling your feathers, and not making myself clear and sharing my opinions in a way that came off as pompous, arrogant and offensive. Especially you Holls.
How many of you have seen the movie My Best Friend's Girl with Dane Cook and Jason Biggs?
That story is like the anti-fairy tale. And very true to life. Jason Biggs character would have made an INCREDIBLE husband to her. However, who was she attracted to sexually? Dane Cook (Tank). And who did she fall for? Tank AFTER he opened up to her and showed her his venerability. When he went from being attractive to awesome.
yeah, the movie was a little hokey, but there is a lot of truth in that movie. Jason Biggs character is just not as attractive to women as a hole as Dane Cook's character is.
That is all I was trying to portray.
I think it totally sucks that more women do not give nice guys more of a shot.
If someone ever asked me what type of girl I was looking for, I think my response would be the type of girl who'd fall for Dane Cook, only the exact opposite.
This has nothing to do with your point, surfbum, or really any of the debate from the past few pages. Just a random thought.
Post by purplefuzzystuff on Mar 28, 2012 23:36:50 GMT -5
^^^^ Hahaha too funny.
I initially stayed out of this thread because I thought it was going to be absurd, and now, given the argument over being a douche vs. not being a douche and the sheer mention of Dane Cook being a viable source of knowledge on women on solidifies my initial belief.
I do also think it is rather convenient surf that you claim to have a "better than average" knowledge of how women work/think/act....but not the women on this thread because we are different.
I am all about sticking to what you believe but man, you are not doing yourself any favors.
