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I'm calling B.S. I want to know what restaurant this is and I'm looking up the menu online.
I've definitely seen it and only didn't mention what restaurant it is because I can't think of one off the top of my head. But I know it's been done and will try to find proof. I am a chicken sandwich addict so I'm speaking from experience.
Question for those in the 'no' camp. Say you're having a cookout. You have a pack of six buns but had enough meat for seven burgers. As the pleasant host you are, you offer to just use white bread for yours, so your guests will have buns. You all use the same toppings. Since yours is on plain bread, are you the only person at your cookout having a sandwich?
People who are saying a burger isn't a sandwhich are the same people who were saying that blacks were subhuman (wait, so does that mean the "no" people think a burger is a subsandwich? Food for thought.) hundreds of years ago. You're all a bunch of sandwichists.
Question for those in the 'no' camp. Say you're having a cookout. You have a pack of six buns but had enough meat for seven burgers. As the pleasant host you are, you offer to just use white bread for yours, so your guests will have buns. You all use the same toppings. Since yours is on plain bread, are you the only person at your cookout having a sandwich?
No, everyone is having a hamburger. I feel like the name of the type of sandwich/burger is defined by the meat in this situation; if you put ham and cheese on a hamburger bun you're not eating a burger.
People who are saying a burger isn't a sandwhich are the same people who were saying that blacks were subhuman (wait, so does that mean the "no" people think a burger is a subsandwich? Food for thought.) hundreds of years ago. You're all a bunch of sandwichists.
I disagree. I think people who are voting "no" understand that the term "sandwich", like many issues throughout our country's history, is elastic and has evolved over time. Everyone voting "yes" are a bunch of strict constructionists that want the U.S. to go back to 1789.
I disagree. I think people who are voting "no" understand that the term "sandwich", like many issues throughout our country's history, is elastic and has evolved over time. Everyone voting "yes" are a bunch of strict constructionists that want the U.S. to go back to 1789.
I think Glenn and I have both agreed that in the traditional sense of the word, burgers would be classified by that. But...
Times are a changin', folks. Get with the program.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
I disagree. I think people who are voting "no" understand that the term "sandwich", like many issues throughout our country's history, is elastic and has evolved over time. Everyone voting "yes" are a bunch of strict constructionists that want the U.S. to go back to 1789.
I think Glenn and I have both agreed that in the traditional sense of the word, burgers would be classified by that. But...
Times are a changin', folks. Get with the program.
And as the times change, the definition of what is and isn't a sandwich becomes looser. So burgers shouldn't be allowed to register as a sandwich just because of the connectivity of their bun?
They have chicken "burgers" with the other hamburgers. If I get a chicken burger I don't think anyone would think I was wrong if I said "Man this chicken sandwich is really good".
I realize they have a separate section for sandwiches here as well....but my point is that Chicken Sandwiches will sometimes be lumped with Burgers as well because (IMO) they are the same thing.
So I guess this now becomes what is the difference between a chicken sandwich and a chicken burger?
I think Glenn and I have both agreed that in the traditional sense of the word, burgers would be classified by that. But...
Times are a changin', folks. Get with the program.
And as the times change, the definition of what is and isn't a sandwich becomes looser. So burgers shouldn't be allowed to register as a sandwich just because of the connectivity of their bun?
How do we know burgers want to be classified under the sandwich umbrella? Maybe they’re happy being their own entity. WHO ARE YOU TO SAY.
The Bobby Flay menu also makes distinctions between burgers and sandwiches. Why put the chicken burger with burgers and not sandwiches? So much to discuss...
The Bobby Flay menu also makes distinctions between burgers and sandwiches. Why put the chicken burger with burgers and not sandwiches? So much to discuss...
lol I know. It's so strange. I love how serious this discussion has gotten haha
Question for those in the 'no' camp. Say you're having a cookout. You have a pack of six buns but had enough meat for seven burgers. As the pleasant host you are, you offer to just use white bread for yours, so your guests will have buns. You all use the same toppings. Since yours is on plain bread, are you the only person at your cookout having a sandwich?
Any fool knows if you don't have enough buns you double up the burgers.
The Bobby Flay menu also makes distinctions between burgers and sandwiches. Why put the chicken burger with burgers and not sandwiches? So much to discuss...
I wonder consider chicken a sandwich, but would be okay with the burger heading ONLY because they are often dressed in the same ways as a burger. If something tastes good on top of a burger, it'll taste good on top of a chicken breast sandwich which is why they are sometimes grouped. If Bobby Flay didn't group it together, he'd have two of the exact same columns with different headings. It makes sense on a marketing/design standpoint to combine the two on menus. On a similar note, if you order the buffalo chicken burger at Plan B (http://www.planbburger.com/menu.pdf _I can't find a good image of the menu). It actually comes as ground chicken. Totally a burger.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
Yes, except the chicken burgers from the menu I posted above are just breasts of chicken and not ground up meat.
Do you have intimate knowledge that the chicken is not ground or are you not carrying the "ground" on the menu to both turkey and chicken (which is my interpretation)?
Yes, except the chicken burgers from the menu I posted above are just breasts of chicken and not ground up meat.
Do you have intimate knowledge that the chicken is not ground or are you not carrying the "ground" on the menu to both turkey and chicken (which is my interpretation)?
I've eaten the chicken sandwich/burger before but maybe I'm wrong. or am mistaking it with one of the many other type of chicken sandwich i've eaten. Maybe this calls for some investigating.
History of the burger: created in Hamburg, NY when two brothers who specialized in sausage patties ran out of pork and the butcher refused to kill another pig. He suggested beef, which they tried with a few different combinations until they found one they liked. Slapped the patty between two buns and dubbed it "the Hamburg Sandwich." This was shorted to just "Hamburg" and eventually "Hamburger."
Whereas I agree there is a difference between a chicken sandwich and a chicken burger, I still think that chicken sandwiches are grouped with burgers for a better menu design. So even if Flay's chicken are regular breasts, that is why they are combined.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
I still think that chicken sandwiches are grouped with burgers for a better menu design. So even if Flay's chicken are regular breasts, that is why they are combined.
Right, then couldn't it also be argued that when a restaurant separates Burgers from other Sandwiches it is because they want a better menu design and don't want to overload one page with a ton of different types of sandwiches?
That all began because someone pointed out menus at restaurants separate "Burgers" and "Sandwiches" but my point was that they don't always do that, sometimes sandwiches are lumped in with burgers.
So I agree....it was for a better menu design. But I also feel that explains why other restaurants separate them. To keep their menus clean and less cluttered
Question for those in the 'no' camp. Say you're having a cookout. You have a pack of six buns but had enough meat for seven burgers. As the pleasant host you are, you offer to just use white bread for yours, so your guests will have buns. You all use the same toppings. Since yours is on plain bread, are you the only person at your cookout having a sandwich?
Or to put it slightly differently to the overly negative camp, is a Patty Melt a sandwich? If not, why not?
And to be clear, we're looking for logic from you. Something beyond "because I say so."