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Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
I know I bring up this moment probably way too much than is healthy, but Juggs joining team 'no' reminds me of when Sting came down from the rafters on Nitro and took off his trenchcoat to reveal an nWo black and white shirt. I have that same deflated feeling of watching my hero join the ranks of the wrong-doers. I'll be patiently waiting for history to repeat itself and for Juggs to rip off the black and white to reveal the Wolfpack colors of the 'yes' camp.
Post by itrainmonkeys on Aug 3, 2012 10:29:31 GMT -5
From the Wikipedia article for McDonaldland:
Officer Big Mac – He was featured in several of the campaign's commercials throughout the early 1970s and early 1980s. In addition to McDonald's signature sandwich, Big Mac was the name of a character in McDonaldland.
So the Big Mac....a hamburger......is known as McDonald's signature sandwich. In fact if you google up McDonald's signature sandwich you'll find articles about the big mac.
I know I bring up this moment probably way too much than is healthy, but Juggs joining team 'no' reminds me of when Sting came down from the rafters on Nitro and took off his trenchcoat to reveal an nWo black and white shirt. I have that same deflated feeling of watching my hero join the ranks of the wrong-doers. I'll be patiently waiting for history to repeat itself and for Juggs to rip off the black and white to reveal the Wolfpack colors of the 'yes' camp.
I know I bring up this moment probably way too much than is healthy, but Juggs joining team 'no' reminds me of when Sting came down from the rafters on Nitro and took off his trenchcoat to reveal an nWo black and white shirt. I have that same deflated feeling of watching my hero join the ranks of the wrong-doers. I'll be patiently waiting for history to repeat itself and for Juggs to rip off the black and white to reveal the Wolfpack colors of the 'yes' camp.
I know I bring up this moment probably way too much than is healthy, but Juggs joining team 'no' reminds me of when Sting came down from the rafters on Nitro and took off his trenchcoat to reveal an nWo black and white shirt. I have that same deflated feeling of watching my hero join the ranks of the wrong-doers. I'll be patiently waiting for history to repeat itself and for Juggs to rip off the black and white to reveal the Wolfpack colors of the 'yes' camp.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
Post by FuzzyWarbles on Aug 3, 2012 10:40:00 GMT -5
You know what they say, opposites attract.
And I'm now happy to acknowledge a hamburger as a sandwich. Never put much thought into it before this thread. All the signs point towards it being a sandwich. A better question to ponder now would be wheter a tomato is a fruit or a vegetable.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
I asked my sister the poll question yesterday (she's a no), and I guess that she asked people on a forum that she is on. This is an excerpt from her email to me today:
I posed the sandwich burger thing to my forum. its a funny conversation.
someone said "Here is another important question - how come there are no fat insects? " The response was "Some caterpillars and grubs are fat. Although, maybe that's considered "baby fat" since they morph into a non-fat insect?"
AND, a good point here.. is shape a factor?
I was about to agree < sparklingsapphire > 08/03 09:04:25 that the patty is what makes a burger a burger. But then...what about a portobello mushroom cap burger? I'd still consider that a "burger" more than a sandwich, because it's served on a bun and with burger-like toppings.
because its < Jewel0523 > 08/03 09:08:45 burger shaped?
So a whole portabello is more burger to me than a sliced portabello sandwich.
Welcome back Bonz, but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal.
One (more) final point - for all of you arguing that the hamburger is a sandwich, do you also wander around, constantly pointing at pigeons and exclaiming "HEY LOOK GUYZ ITS A DINOSAUR!" Because it's basically the same thing.
You're not smooth talking your way out of this one, good ser.
"Burger" comes from the term "Hamburger," which is derived from the "Hamburg Sandwich." Look it up.
And what does that have to do with anything? Just because some idiot got it wrong in 1904 doesn't mean we all have to suffer. By your logic, rain is actually God's tears.
Edit: And don't even get me started on how your little story isn't even CLOSE to the truth of the matter. There are about 19 different accounts of how the hamburger was invented, so trying to pass your little fable off as the genuine article is bullsh*t.
Oh, not a fable at all. German immigrants used to pack Hamburg steak on the Hamburg Lines because it didn't spoil quickly like many other meats. Basically, a hamburger was a hamburg steak chopped up and served in patty form, but the origination of the hamburger/ketchup combo that is now the standard burger came about in Hamburg, NY in some manner similar to the one I explained.
I'm sure the details aren't all accurate, but German immigrants in Hamburg, NY led to the creation of the Hamburg Sandwich, and thus the modern hamburger was born...as a sandwich.
Post by EthnicallyCrimean98476 on Aug 3, 2012 13:18:46 GMT -5
I'm on the fence about this, but for the record, I did eat at lunch at a place today where burgers were in the "sandwich" section. One restaurant's stance on the matter doesn't decide it for me, but if you're into that sort of thing then here's the link to their menu:
I'd like to point out that nowhere in Wikipedia's terrific "History of the Hamburger" page does your little fable come up. Meanwhile...
Oh, well if Wikipedia says it....
While this has nothign to do with the original discussion (that a hamburger is a sandwich), there are many "origins' for the burger and Hamburg, NY is absolutely on the list. ALL of them are oral histories handed down, and there is no way to prove whether the Menches, Nagreen, Davis or Lassen was truly the first to serve a modern hamburger.
But none of this changes the fact that it's a sandwich.
While this has nothign to do with the original discussion (that a hamburger is a sandwich), there are many "origins' for the burger and Hamburg, NY is absolutely on the list. ALL of them are oral histories handed down, and there is no way to prove whether the Menches, Nagreen, Davis or Lassen was truly the first to serve a modern hamburger.
But none of this changes the fact that it's a sandwich.
The whole "Wikipedia is unreliable" trope is the laziest argument on the interwebs. It's used when people are confronted by a wealth of information that they don't want to believe.
And it does have to do with the original discussion, because people (such as yourself) were quoting what the alleged inventors of the burger called it in support of their arguments. And you're wrong about Hamburg, NY - hamburg (the product) comes from Hamburg, Germany, and was a staple in Hamburg, NY due to the immigrants. So I guess yeah, if hamburg first was introduced to the US via Hamburg, NY then that's something, but that's like saying that because the first apple was eaten in Plymouth, MA that it's also the birthplace of the apple pie.
Sproat was right, you do rep your hood hard. Won't even budge on this, have to resort to making insane arguments about where burgers come from. Bro, NY isn't the center of the universe, bro.
Settle down there, chief. Hamburg NY is as close to me as it is to you, I basically think of that section of NY as Canada. Maybe NoD has been there and can weigh in.
I know exactly what hamburg (hamburg steak) is, for the record, and it's a distant cousin of a hamburger. It's basically salt beef and not at all like a burger.
The case of the Menches isn't simply "they took a hamburg and put it on bread." They took the hamburg meat and messed with it until finding something that worked. They modified an existing German dish, just like the other "inventors" did.
That was brought up early on, I believe. I think NoD mentioned it.
And that's a tough one. I'd argue that no, the calling card of the hot dog is the meat inside of a casing, but lo and behold, if you slap some sausage links on some bread with some onions and peppers, it's a sausage sandwich, and the difference between hot dogs and sausages are negligible.
I always assumed they make hotdogs with all the stuff left over from making sausages. Like, not from taking the pork and ingredients and putting them in the skin, but the leftover parts of the pick after lopping off the meaty parts.
but I do not find it strange that your presence being requested in the Orgy thread and then you showing up, like it was the quacking Bonzai Bat Signal. 
