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What does encourage someone to become a regular poster here? Is it their inherent love of all things Bonnaroo, or is it the strong sense of community/humor/interest/etc. that we all share with each other?
Boredom, mostly.
I get that you're joking, but there are plenty of other websites to visit if you're bored.
How does that support your hatred for this idea? Wouldn't it be good for the private thread concept to be modded to fight against the very things you're worried about?
I don't really see why you would be sorry for that. Am I making you feel sorry for that? I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from on this.
Post by FuzzyWarbles on Jan 8, 2013 18:18:00 GMT -5
Everyone here who has visited the Coachella message board has came back and reported how they dispised it for the most part. Why try to make Inforoo more like that board? Maybe this exclusiveness is what makes it an unpleasant place.
Everyone here who has visited the Coachella message board has came back and reported how they dispised it for the most part. Why try to make Inforoo more like that board? Maybe this exclusiveness is what makes it an unpleasant place.
I think this is jumping to an unwarranted conclusion.
I like the Coachella board. There's amazing music discussion going on in the Music Lounge and I'm part of the private leaks group which doesn't detract any discussion other than posting links which wouldn't be allowed anyway. I can't speak for the other private groups and what they do or don't take away from the main board, but to me it just seems like it would be minor. Who really cares if the speculation threads are emptier?
The way I see it is that if this were to go through and things were posted in private threads, those are things that would not have been posted in public ones so what, really, is the board losing?
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Everyone here who has visited the Coachella message board has came back and reported how they dispised it for the most part. Why try to make Inforoo more like that board? Maybe this exclusiveness is what makes it an unpleasant place.
The thing that makes the Coachella board unbearable are the people that post there, nothing more or less
The way I see it is that if this were to go through and things were posted in private threads, those are things that would not have been posted in public ones so what, really, is the board losing?
The answer, good sir, is nothing. If mods monitor these threads to ensure they aren't just hatehatehate groups, they will not take anything away from the board as a whole. Noobs will still post dumb sh*t in the TML, we'll still flame them, people will still play games in the Arcade, we'll still talk about concerts in the Which, we'll still have a place for Juggs to air his grievances and his random thoughts (Juggs gets two threads!? FAVORITISM!), we'll still have everyone post interesting music in Now Playing Dos, we'll still have the Direct Confirmation thread (aka Gabfrab's playground) updating confirmed acts, we'll still have the countdown thread, the girly fashion thread, the MANLY fashion thread (also known as the "protect your nuts" thread), NoD's bleep bloop thread, and so on...
None of that (or anything I didn't list) is going to go away because long-standing board members get to have a private discussion here.
The way I see it is that if this were to go through and things were posted in private threads, those are things that would not have been posted in public ones so what, really, is the board losing?
The answer, good sir, is nothing. If mods monitor these threads to ensure they aren't just hatehatehate groups, they will not take anything away from the board as a whole. Noobs will still post dumb sh*t in the TML, we'll still flame them, people will still play games in the Arcade, we'll still talk about concerts in the Which, we'll still have a place for Juggs to air his grievances and his random thoughts (Juggs gets two threads!? FAVORITISM!), we'll still have everyone post interesting music in Now Playing Dos, we'll still have the Direct Confirmation thread (aka Gabfab's playground) updating confirmed acts, we'll still have the countdown thread, the girly fashion thread, the MANLY fashion thread (also known as the "protect your nuts" thread), NoD's bleep bloop thread, and so on...
None of that (or anything I didn't list) is going to go away because long-standing board members get to have a private discussion here.
See, I'm not sure this holds up. Just a recent example of this, I think I remember Now Playing posts dropping off a bit when InfoMoog first started up a Now Playing thread of its own.
Ideally, private threads wouldn't draw from attention to other threads on this board, but as Karosko (Deputy Hawk for those constantly lost as to his handle) pointed out earlier, look how little attention the TML has gotten in the past few hours while this thread has been given more attention by established members.
Post by Dave Maynar on Jan 8, 2013 18:40:51 GMT -5
1) The Now Playing thread took a dip more because GL went on inforoo/infomoog vacation before Moogfest. We all know he accounts for about 30% of the posts in there. 2) Yes, TML has taken a dip today, but it's not like gold gets posted in there all the time. Wasn't yesterday where there was a multi-page discussion on fake bands in The Simpsons? 3) Saying that the artist confirmation thread won't take a dip while using the idea of needing to post artist confirmations in one of private threads doesn't really add up, flanzo.
We are all music lovers here, no matter how many posts we have or how "respected" said individual is. The bonnaroo spirit, at least as I'd like to think, is one of togetherness and acceptance and care, above pettiness and exclusion.
Private forums, it feels like, create an environment where cliques are ENCOURAGED, and that seems, in my opinion, Contrary to one of my favorite parts of being on the farm.
I realize this isn't the farm. I enjoy it for what it is. I actually enjoy sparring with horn and flanzo, and will assuredly buy both of them a beer when I see them (Tame Impala?). I like this board, and I like the feeling of community, even through the flaming and all that. Reading this thread, it gets me thinking "so am I one of the 'cool kids'?" And that kind of sucks.
See, I'm not sure this holds up. Just a recent example of this, I think I remember Now Playing posts dropping off a bit when InfoMoog first started up a Now Playing thread of its own.
Ideally, private threads wouldn't draw from attention to other threads on this board, but as Karosko (Deputy Hawk for those constantly lost as to his handle) pointed out earlier, look how little attention the TML has gotten in the past few hours while this thread has been given more attention by established members.
I understand what you're saying, but I think the people that always post in NPD (which we'll use an example) post in it pretty much regardless of other stuff. Sure, it tapers off from time to time, but it's a consistent thread.
Will we get less random threads created? I'd probably agree that we would, but I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. Threads are constantly created and die within a few days, so I think these private threads would help eliminate that (we could also alert the mods when a private thread has served its purpose and they can shut it down).
And if a thread dies because 5 people are discussing the subject privately, to me that indicates the thread wasn't really that necessary.
I think the fact that the Coach boards do this and have no issue with public discussion outweighs concerns about what could happen here.
Everyone here who has visited the Coachella message board has came back and reported how they dispised it for the most part. Why try to make Inforoo more like that board? Maybe this exclusiveness is what makes it an unpleasant place.
The thing that makes the Coachella board unbearable are the people that post there, nothing more or less
Ya, I'm thinking maybe anyone and anything worth reading is being posted in private and all the mon clique/disliked members are posting in the public without guidance from those who know what's going on. I really don't know since I've only glanced in there a few times. Anyhow, the private forum would be great for established members, but suck for newcomers. I've already stated my feelings on the subject. There are pros and cons.
See, I'm not sure this holds up. Just a recent example of this, I think I remember Now Playing posts dropping off a bit when InfoMoog first started up a Now Playing thread of its own.
Ideally, private threads wouldn't draw from attention to other threads on this board, but as Karosko (Deputy Hawk for those constantly lost as to his handle) pointed out earlier, look how little attention the TML has gotten in the past few hours while this thread has been given more attention by established members.
I understand what you're saying, but I think the people that always post in NPD (which we'll use an example) post in it pretty much regardless of other stuff. Sure, it tapers off from time to time, but it's a consistent thread.
Will we get less random threads created? I'd probably agree that we would, but I don't necessarily see that as a bad thing. Threads are constantly created and die within a few days, so I think these private threads would help eliminate that (we could also alert the mods when a private thread has served its purpose and they can shut it down).
And if a thread dies because 5 people are discussing the subject privately, to me that indicates the thread wasn't really that necessary.
I think the fact that the Coach boards do this and have no issue with public discussion outweighs concerns about what could happen here.
I can buy most of this, I just didn't like how you were presenting it before; the notion that posts in both forums would flourish. It was just a bit too utopic for me
Well then apologies for giving that impression, I'm not that naive. I guess my point could have been summed up better by just saying that the threads that are worthwhile will last, and unnecessary ones (meaning ones that would die off quickly in a public format anyway) will likely just take place in private forums.
