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Post by bansheebeat on Jun 6, 2013 13:12:34 GMT -5
I know I've seen them get pretty thorough, including mirrors under the car and everything. Whether you have anything you shouldn't doesn't matter, it would SUCK to get pulled to the side and searched. Make it that close to the gate only to have to sit there for another hour while cops unpack ALL of your stuff. Knock on wood I've never gotten chosen. I can deal with stops on the interstate, but once I'm in line I can't be bothered with ridiculous searches!
Its not just Coffee County deputies. The department brings in help from law enforcement all over the state for roo, as well as deputizing some of their good ole boy buddies. Still probably not enough, but there are a whole lot more "Coffee County Deputies" during roo week than any other week of the year.
Sturgis does this every year for the big motor cycle rally.
Materials to manufacture explosives with? Have these people never heard of gasoline?
Edit: not trying to suggest anyone should use gasoline for illicit purposes, but it blows my mind when dumb crap like this comes out. For example there are volunteers who take the "no glass containers" rule to mean literally "no glass" as in coffeemaker carafes, but they're not standing there jimmying the windshields out of cars. And you can't bring in a hammer but you can bring in tire irons all day long. Just doesn't make sense. This is why you have to screen the person, not the car.
Not trying to argue, because I really can see where you're coming from... enhanced searches for things that shouldn't matter suck. but I don't want newbs to have the wrong idea... the no glass is pretty clear- don't bring it. i personally have to agree with it (even for things aside from bottles)... I've stepped on glass while at Roo... not fun. And the windshield argument is a little off; that would be safety glass, and it's much harder and less convenient to break a windshield than it is to break a bottle over someone's head. Gasoline- if you don't have a gennie, you don't need extra gas cans (which is the rule). In fact, if I had my way, I wouldn't allow people with gennies and gas can in at all. But that's aside from my point. The last thing I want to say is, since when can you not bring a hammer? I've always brought one for tent stakes (I ain't gonna buy a rubber mallet just for Roo), and I know its been seen in searches by Roo security. Again, not trying to start an argument, I just have had the opposite experience.
Just doesn't make sense. This is why you have to screen the person, not the car.
That's called "profiling." And if you let dunderheaded country police do that, you'd all be complaining that they pulled over anyone with long hair or dark skin.
No, I get that, and I agree that race/appearance profiling is wrong/dangerous, but that's not what I'm talking about. I should've said "screen the person, not JUST the car." I'm talking about behavioral screening of the sort that was in play for a while at Logan airport.
Look, I don't want to stir up a big debate over this, because I think you and I are on the same page, but I think there's something to be said for a layered approach where you're not just looking for weapons (or materials which can be used to fabricate weapons), but you also have specifically-trained LEOs on the lookout for people who through their behavior indicate that they might merit further screening. But again, I agree with you that you can't just hand a checklist to every LEO -- this is a special skill that requires special training.
Ultimately, though, it's up to us, the festival-goers, to look out for each other. If I see my neighbor fiddling with a pressure cooker and a bag of ball-bearings...well...I better do something.
Materials to manufacture explosives with? Have these people never heard of gasoline?
Edit: not trying to suggest anyone should use gasoline for illicit purposes, but it blows my mind when dumb crap like this comes out. For example there are volunteers who take the "no glass containers" rule to mean literally "no glass" as in coffeemaker carafes, but they're not standing there jimmying the windshields out of cars. And you can't bring in a hammer but you can bring in tire irons all day long. Just doesn't make sense. This is why you have to screen the person, not the car.
Not trying to argue, because I really can see where you're coming from... enhanced searches for things that shouldn't matter suck. but I don't want newbs to have the wrong idea... the no glass is pretty clear- don't bring it. i personally have to agree with it (even for things aside from bottles)... I've stepped on glass while at Roo... not fun. And the windshield argument is a little off; that would be safety glass, and it's much harder and less convenient to break a windshield than it is to break a bottle over someone's head. Gasoline- if you don't have a gennie, you don't need extra gas cans (which is the rule). In fact, if I had my way, I wouldn't allow people with gennies and gas can in at all. But that's aside from my point. The last thing I want to say is, since when can you not bring a hammer? I've always brought one for tent stakes (I ain't gonna buy a rubber mallet just for Roo), and I know its been seen in searches by Roo security. Again, not trying to start an argument, I just have had the opposite experience.
Great points. I probably should've held my tongue on this, especially given the volume of first-timers on the board right now. Apologies all around. This is just a bit of a sore spot. I used to live in Boston, I've run the Boston Marathon, and some very good friends of mine almost got killed in that bombing -- they were standing on that very spot about ten minutes before the bomb went off, but one of the kids got cranky and they decided to leave.
Anyway, I've been asked about hammers a couple of times.
Just doesn't make sense. This is why you have to screen the person, not the car.
That's called "profiling." And if you let dunderheaded country police do that, you'd all be complaining that they pulled over anyone with long hair or dark skin.
Well... as someone with long here I can say with certainty that I'm a favorite target for police on the way to fests. Every. Damn. Year. I get stopped.
I am making a f*ck-ton of jello shots. I'm bringing them to the brunch and sharing them with my camp group. There should not be more booze in them than is allowed for my hubby and me, but I can't exactly prove that being that they are pre-made and... you know, cups of jello. Do you think this is going to be an issue when I come in?
If they search, they will see two coolers that look like this:
Edit: There will also be bacon. My photo shopping skills aren't that rad though.
That's called "profiling." And if you let dunderheaded country police do that, you'd all be complaining that they pulled over anyone with long hair or dark skin.
Well... as someone with long here I can say with certainty that I'm a favorite target for police on the way to fests. Every. Damn. Year. I get stopped.
I can also attest to this. My dad has hair to his waste and a beard down to the middle of his chest. I have a well kept look. I drive anywhere without him haven't been stopped in 9 years. I drive ANYWHERE with him we get stopped. Last time we went camping we got stopped by the same officer TWICE. If a police officer just sees him I expect to be harassed. It is super ffked.
Post by captaincanada on Jun 6, 2013 14:12:15 GMT -5
So if they search every car, does that mean they (security and/or cops) also get onto every Shuttle bus and search all the people on board along with their belongings? I think I might be taking the shuttle and that sounds like a horrendously long process if indeed it is the case.
That's called "profiling." And if you let dunderheaded country police do that, you'd all be complaining that they pulled over anyone with long hair or dark skin.
Well... as someone with long here I can say with certainty that I'm a favorite target for police on the way to fests. Every. Damn. Year. I get stopped.
Just curious, what kind of car do you take to Bonnaroo? I've not gotten the special treatment, knock on wood, but I figured the VW Bus covered in Grateful Dead and "Legalize it" stickers was more apt to get searched than my beat up Civic.
Post by bansheebeat on Jun 6, 2013 14:16:46 GMT -5
Yes every car is searched, but this happens every year. If anything they might do POLICE searches on more cars, but every car is searched regardless. Usually it's just by 'roo volunteers. Depending on your volunteer ymmv. I've had years when they've pulled out lots of stuff and opened coolers, and I've had years when they just popped their head in the window and asked if I had anything illegal.
Well... as someone with long here I can say with certainty that I'm a favorite target for police on the way to fests. Every. Damn. Year. I get stopped.
Just curious, what kind of car do you take to Bonnaroo? I've not gotten the special treatment, knock on wood, but I figured the VW Bus covered in Grateful Dead and "Legalize it" stickers was more apt to get searched than my beat up Civic.
I normally drive an '02 Chevy Impala. It's in good shape, and doesn't have a single bumber sticker. In this car I've been pulled over on my way to 3 out of 4 Bonnaroos, 1 out of 1 All Good, and 1 out of 2 Terrapin Hill. Last year I drove my moms Ford Expedition which is near brand new, and I got pulled over on my way to Bonnaroo.
It's always been for pretty silly reasons too. And I've been searched every. single. time. And of course the dogs always "hit" on something (even in my moms car which has never had anything illegal in it), so then the cops tear apart all my stuff. It gets old.
Just an observation: This year at Hangout, at the Shuttle Stops, the cops were much more prevalent. Homeland Security with K-9s were also there doing random longggggg searches of the buses themselves. They had the dogs sniffing both outside and inside of buses (empty ones though!).
Just curious, what kind of car do you take to Bonnaroo? I've not gotten the special treatment, knock on wood, but I figured the VW Bus covered in Grateful Dead and "Legalize it" stickers was more apt to get searched than my beat up Civic.
I normally drive an '02 Chevy Impala. It's in good shape, and doesn't have a single bumber sticker. In this car I've been pulled over on my way to 3 out of 4 Bonnaroos, 1 out of 1 All Good, and 1 out of 2 Terrapin Hill. Last year I drove my moms Ford Expedition which is near brand new, and I got pulled over on my way to Bonnaroo.
It's always been for pretty silly reasons too. And I've been searched every. single. time. And of course the dogs always "hit" on something (even in my moms car which has never had anything illegal in it), so then the cops tear apart all my stuff. It gets old.
That's a mutherfucker man. I've met you and yeah you have long hair but you're definitely not a sketchy looking dude . Re: The dogs, no fucking shit on that one. I know allot of people say stand your ground and refuse to let them search your car but your shit is getting searched regardless. The dog ALWAYS hits on something. And at that point they're pissed off and will tear your shit up even worse than had you just nonchalantly said "Knock yourselves out boys."
Well... as someone with long here I can say with certainty that I'm a favorite target for police on the way to fests. Every. Damn. Year. I get stopped.
I can also attest to this. My dad has hair to his waste and a beard down to the middle of his chest.
Not sure from this if your dad's hair length ends near the hips or the anus.
Just doesn't make sense. This is why you have to screen the person, not the car.
That's called "profiling." And if you let dunderheaded country police do that, you'd all be complaining that they pulled over anyone with long hair or dark skin.
11/2/19: Tool 5/17/19: Blues Traveler 5/9/19: Tool 11/10/18: Tenacious D 9/20/18: White Denim 7/23/18: Radiohead 6/4/18: Jack White 5/20/18: Tool 5/18/18: A Perfect Circle 5/18/18: Alice in Chains 5/6/18: Blind Melon
Sad part about that is, probably less than 5% of the people at this thing were actually from Manchester. Our conference center felt like it would be a good idea to rent the meeting hall to them. both side of this thing had people coming in from other places.
Unfortunately, all the news sees is that is was in Manchester, so it must have been Manchester people. Wrong. Most of these folks were from out of town. We drove by the conference center the other night, having no idea what was going on, and the traffic trying to get in there was just ridic!
Edit: Love this quote from our Asst Police Chief:
“Our guys were thick skinned,” said Manchester Police Department Assistant Chief Adam Floied. “They took a beating when they had to shut the doors [when the building reached capacity] and they took some verbal abuse but other than that it went OK. They handled that well. Everything else went pretty well.”
Um, yeah, I think the Manchester Police Department knows how to handle a crowd. And typically, they do a pretty good job of not being dicks about it.
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Sad part about that is, probably less than 5% of the people at this thing were actually from Manchester. Our conference center felt like it would be a good idea to rent the meeting hall to them. both side of this thing had people coming in from other places.
Unfortunately, all the news sees is that is was in Manchester, so it must have been Manchester people. Wrong. Most of these folks were from out of town. We drove by the conference center the other night, having no idea what was going on, and the traffic trying to get in there was just ridic!
Edit: Love this quote from our Asst Police Chief:
“Our guys were thick skinned,” said Manchester Police Department Assistant Chief Adam Floied. “They took a beating when they had to shut the doors [when the building reached capacity] and they took some verbal abuse but other than that it went OK. They handled that well. Everything else went pretty well.”
Um, yeah, I think the Manchester Police Department knows how to handle a crowd. And typically, they do a pretty good job of not being dicks about it.
The worst part of that to me was the blurb at the very end about why this event was scheduled in the first place. The facebook comment by the County Commissioner. I'm not surprised by it, but wow.
11/2/19: Tool 5/17/19: Blues Traveler 5/9/19: Tool 11/10/18: Tenacious D 9/20/18: White Denim 7/23/18: Radiohead 6/4/18: Jack White 5/20/18: Tool 5/18/18: A Perfect Circle 5/18/18: Alice in Chains 5/6/18: Blind Melon
I am making a f*ck-ton of jello shots. I'm bringing them to the brunch and sharing them with my camp group. There should not be more booze in them than is allowed for my hubby and me, but I can't exactly prove that being that they are pre-made and... you know, cups of jello. Do you think this is going to be an issue when I come in?
If they search, they will see two coolers that look like this:
Edit: There will also be bacon. My photo shopping skills aren't that rad though.
If asked, "they're not for sale" and "they're for the Bonnaroo forum brunch."
If pressed, "you should come to brunch if you're not working."
I normally drive an '02 Chevy Impala. It's in good shape, and doesn't have a single bumber sticker. In this car I've been pulled over on my way to 3 out of 4 Bonnaroos, 1 out of 1 All Good, and 1 out of 2 Terrapin Hill. Last year I drove my moms Ford Expedition which is near brand new, and I got pulled over on my way to Bonnaroo.
It's always been for pretty silly reasons too. And I've been searched every. single. time. And of course the dogs always "hit" on something (even in my moms car which has never had anything illegal in it), so then the cops tear apart all my stuff. It gets old.
That's a mutherQuacker man. I've met you and yeah you have long hair but you're definitely not a sketchy looking dude . Re: The dogs, no quacking shiz on that one. I know allot of people say stand your ground and refuse to let them search your car but your shiz is getting searched regardless. The dog ALWAYS hits on something. And at that point they're pissed off and will tear your shiz up even worse than had you just nonchalantly said "Knock yourselves out boys."
Definitely. I'm all for the "I refuse the search" and "Am I being detained" crap but the fact of the matter is that stuff doesn't work in the real world like armchair lawyers think it does. If a cop wants to search your car they will. Also, in all my experiences, all the cops I've dealt with on the way to festivals already have a K9 with them. So you can refuse and they'll just get the dog out. And like you said, the dog ALWAYS hits on something. It sucks.
Refuse a search and see if they don't walk the dogs over to your car.
Has anyone ever refused a search, had the dogs called out and the dog didn't hit on something, so they just said "Oh our bad. Keep safe"? Anyone? Anybody?
. Re: The dogs, no fucking shit on that one. I know allot of people say stand your ground and refuse to let them search your car but your shit is getting searched regardless. The dog ALWAYS hits on something. And at that point they're pissed off and will tear your shit up even worse than had you just nonchalantly said "Knock yourselves out boys." 
